The Catholic Church prohibits women's ordination, saying it has no authority to ordain women because Jesus chose only men as his apostles??? The church's Canon Law 1024 says only baptized men may receive holy orders. This is an example of the outdated and bigoted view of the RCC and their disrespect for women just because they were born female (incubators to pass the male seed). Earlier this year, Pope Benedict XVI denounced the Rev. Bill Brennan (92 years old) for supporting women's ordination, saying their desire to change the church was a "desperate push" driven by their "own preferences and ideas." Instead, the pope urged for the "radicalism of obedience." Not the spreading of the word of Jesus or the sermon on the mount mind you … obedience to the CHURCH is their priority and it would solve all their problems if it weren’t for the people involved who are becoming better educated.
Alf is gorgeous, just ask him.
You agree with her in several key areas.
Just read your article and will read the comments later....and most likely offer my 2 cents worth later.
Which areas would that be?
And the only reason Alf is not dog ugly is his fur. If you had a schnoz like that, would you make the Ms Universe beauty pageant?
Fur - It is what was for dinner.
That's why Mason does so well.
The gospel of John is a good example of tampering by early christians (Jews) by the ‘church’. It was catholic policy to subjugate Jews until 1964 … a coincidence I think not.
Biggest Lie -- The 4th Gospel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJMd5UiTeys
GFTESS writes: Priest stripped of duties for celebrating Mass with woman priest.
Yes, he was and rightly so.
GFTESS writes: The Catholic Church prohibits women's ordination,
Yes, the CC prohibits women's ordination. She always has, from the moment of the Church's beginning on the First Pentecost Day in 33AD, and always will, until the end of the world.
The matter is officially closed ever since BL. Pope John Paul II issued Ordinatio Sacerdotalis in 1994 which clarifies the Church's perennial teaching on priestly ordination. In part, no. 4 reads, "Although the teaching that priestly ordination is to be reserved to men alone has been preserved by the constant and universal tradition of the Church and firmly taught by the Magisterium in its more recent documents, at the present time it is considered still open to debate, or the Church's judgment that women are not to be admitted to ordination is a mere disciplinary force. Wherefore, in order that all doubt my be removed regarding a matter of great importance, a matter which pertains to the Church's divine Constitution itself, in virtue of my ministry of confirming the brethren, (St. Luke 22:32), I declare that the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women and that this judgment is to be definitively held by all the Church's faithful."
This settle any doubt about the authority and permanency of the Church's constant teaching, simply re-affirming by the late Pope's Apostolic Letter founded on the written Word of god. The priestly ministry is mentioned in St. Luke "confirming the brethren" (that would be all us Catholics), was to only men under the Sacrament of Holy Orders. "The laying on of hands" is from the Acts of the Apostles. It did not proclaim a new or altered teaching. This teaching was from the beginning constantly preserved and applied in the Tradition of the Church and now it has been set forth infallibly by the Magisterium of the CC.
Quoting GirlFriendTess, reply 1This priest was dismissed by the RCC in god's name of course for performing church dogma with an ordained WOMAN.
You are grumbling over what you don't know or understand correctly. There is no such thing as an ordained Catholic woman.
Women's ordination in Christ's Church is an impossibility and always has been.
To understand the Church's position on only male priests, we must look at the nature of the priesthood. The priesthood is an office entrusted by Christ to His Apostles...Christ chose only men as His Twelve Apostles and He gave them His authority to teach, govern, sanctify (that is administer the 7 Sacraments, including the Holy Eucharist(Mass) and forgive sins in His Holy Name.
Christ ordained only males because only males can be priests. When priests celebrate the Holy Mass and consecrate the Eucharist, they act in persona Christ, in the person of a groom, the Spouse of Holy Mother Church, which is the Bride of Christ. In this sense, the Church is feminine and the Holy Mass emphasizes the marital relationship between Jesus and His Church by recalling the passage in The Apoc. 19:7-9. The Lamb's Bride is in her wedding garments...the celebrant acting in persona Christ has to be male.
We don't have to look at anything Lula. I will grant that your church is an organization of male chauvinist pigs priests and your dogma denies a woman’s full potential. I am not going to play the atheist anymore because that is a term you just go viral with … I am more anti-theology first because I do not believe in any god and secondly because I do not believe in any theology. God doesn’t exist and cannot be argued realistically … but yout theology is right there for all to read and ridicule. I am not interested in your bogus god so I am not going to include it in my discussions (if possible) because god plays no role in my worldview. Your christian dogma allows plenty of opportunity to present modern reasons for laughing at orthodox creationism (no god needed). Is there a real MAN about for me to discuss Catholicism with because I am tired of being attacked by a mere church woman who doesn’t know her biblical place? It is after all your dogma that is going to cause your mental crash or your increased isolation. At some point you might eventually realize this post has gone down another path.
GFTESS writes: This is an example of the outdated and bigoted view of the RCC and their disrespect for women just because they were born female (incubators to pass the male seed).
Well, your view about the CC is wrong, completely wrong.
The CC is a living organism, ever ancient and ever new, is one organic body by the profession of the same Christian Faith, by the participation of the same Sacrifice, and the same 7 Sacraments under the authority of the Sovereign Pontiff and the bishops in union with him, with Christ as her Eternal Head, King and High Priest, so she can hardly ever be outdated.
The history of the CC gives evidence of miraculous strength, permanence, and unchangeableness, so showing the world that it is under special protection of God. The Church has proved herself indestructible for over 2,000 years against every variety and number of formidable enemies. The Church suffered from persecution and attacks, both outside and inside, and from schism and heresy and dissidents from within her ranks, yet still lives to carry out its mission, its purpose, as its Founder promised.
After every attack against the CC, she rises, the Bride of Christ, ever fresh and new.
The Church only has proved itself an exception to the law of decay and death. Yet, she has watched the birth and decay of every government on earth for over 2,000 years.
You are wrong again.
Christ redeemed all mankind (as Rush would say for those in Rio Linda that includes women). The Church exists to save souls, all souls, including women's. A woman's full potential is gaining eternal life in Heaven.
They cannot have any women intermingling with their priests because they are supposed to live as eunuchs. They might even get the idea of replacing some of their abused children with women just to deal with an adult for a change. A human is an animal and as such is driven to screw … and the righteous amongst you will find a way … the hell with god. 2 hail Marys and 3 our fathers and the pervert is good to go till the next child is raped. Your church is a protection racket for some of the worst criminals imaginable and I want no part of it.
I think it's funny that you're mad about the fact that women cannot be ordained into a church that you despise and believe is totally incorrect. So you're mad that women cannot teach lies, according to you.
Me too...though it's a kinda' scratching my head funny!
But Militant Atheism is a serious matter.
Are you saying Mason's Schnoz is that big and it helps him with the ladies?
Actually, he does raise a good point that I would like to see your answer to.
Given your opinion of the teachings of the Church, why would it matter about Female ordination? Wouldn't the fact that women are not allowed to deceive be a positive for the women at least?
If you mean the part about Alf, I think he's cute, but not gorgeous.
Other than that, I came in the discussion late, and am just now reading the comments.
Then why the blog?
It might be that you don't realize it, but you care all right; if only to the point of voicing your Militant Atheism against the Church and the Christian Faith. What else can it be if not that?
God bless you Lula but you sure are clueless.
Short History of the Catholic Church http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSD1EW-FQBQ
No, he's furry.
It is difficult to take people seriously when they freely admit the unquestionable belief in things that defy reality and every principle I understand. They try to keep things on some unreal plane where the super silliness is ignored … but I like the silliness.
The Flintstones are historically accurate! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhdGmahSW10
I never said you were mad about it. If I had to use an adjective, I would have said angry. Still, I do not concern myself with the inner workings of Free Masons because I do not care what they believe. I was just curious why you would take the time to point out an instance of chauvinism in, what you have made clear you believe, is mythical.
I find that reading your pieces, you are a true atheist, not a phony one (the phony ones are trying to bolster their beliefs by attacking others). This is atypical of your normal views.
I know you didn't Doc, I am just not used to people willing to use common sense when responding to me as a rule, I will try to be more careful in the future. I guess I never put much thought into the possibility of phony atheists but I see now I was naive about it. Why wouldn't there be charlatans on both sides of a contention. But I pride myself of my individualism and I attempt to speak for myself. Funny that I have been doing a lot of research on the opinions of others and was surprised to find that a lot of them think enough like me to have used my arguments as if they read my writings, pretty immature I suppose. At least I am not trying to change anything (who am I to promote anything besides what I have come to believe as true – an opinion). I see these boards as a place to test personal convictions not to convert anyone else or for changing their minds … more like food for thought, take it or leave it as one sees fit. Thanks for being civil and honest.
Oh yea, I don’t care about the interworking of the RCC, but I do care about equal opportunities for all … especially women (but of course). Or, women have just as much right to deceive others (intentional or not) as men do. My dislike of the message has nothing to do with it.
nah! Robots we got. Getting juiced up about a subject and misspeaking is half the fun. You are doing fine. We all make statements we later regret or did not mean to. The problem comes when we cannot admit that we made a mistake, and double down on it. That is where you get most people tripping over their tongue.
Who says you cannot? Wisdom is knowing when to provide knowledge - even though most will never accept it. But just because most will not accept it does not mean we should not offer it.
When I was a child, I knew everything. When I became a parent, I knew I did not know everything, but I did not know when to talk and when to shut up.
I am learning that now. I guess that is why everyone sees grandparents as so wise. They know when to speak and when not to.
They are. They use to be a lot busier. But there are still enough around to get a good read and a good discussion going.
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