Yeah, I'm pretty pissed with Acronis. 2012 isn't even over and Acronis True Image 2012 is obsolete if you run Windows 8. It won't install on Win 8 and this page suggests it will never be updated to do so. It's pissing me off enormously because I only purchased it 4 - 5 months ago and I've not even gotten 6 months use out of it.
Now it wouldn't be so bad if there were plans to update it, or if it were 10 years old or something, but the year for which it was published isn't even over... and it is already obsolete for 1000's of Windows 8 users? Moreover, a number of people who added Win 8 compatibility to the Acronis 2012 wishlist were totally ignored, so I'm thinking Acronis has an attitude problem and will likely disappear from the list of backup programs as I search for a replacement to safeguard my system. Active Disk Image and Macrium look like 2 possible candidates.
Oh yeah, and another reason I'm looking to switch, Acronis bundles what should be standard features [by today's standards] into a 'Plus Pack' and charges extra for them. Various forum members drew attenton to this and noted that other developers had made them all inclusive, but it seems Acronis intends not to follow suit, and for me that is an incentive to look elsewhere.
@DOC Thanks...I din't know that.
OK... here it is:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/redobackup/files/redobackup-livecd-1.0.4.iso/download?use_mirror=iweb
This is free, and is a bare metal recovery/restore program. 237 MB in an iso.
Bare-metal restore is a technique in the field of data recovery and restoration where the backed up data is available in a form which allows one to restore a computer system from "bare metal", i.e. without any requirements as to previously installed software or operating system. Typically, the backed up data includes the necessary operating system, applications and data components to rebuild or restore the backed up system to an entirely separate piece of hardware. In some configurations, the hardware receiving the restore needs to have an identical configuration to the hardware that was the source of the backup, although virtualization techniques and careful planning can enable a bare-metal restore to a hardware configuration different from the original. Disk imaging applications enable bare-metal restores by storing copies (images) of the entire contents of hard disks to networked or other external storage, and then writing those images to other physical disks. The disk image application itself can include an entire operating system, bootable from a live CD or network file server, which contains all the required application code to create and restore the disk images. -Wikipedia
Bare-metal restore is a technique in the field of data recovery and restoration where the backed up data is available in a form which allows one to restore a computer system from "bare metal", i.e. without any requirements as to previously installed software or operating system.
Typically, the backed up data includes the necessary operating system, applications and data components to rebuild or restore the backed up system to an entirely separate piece of hardware. In some configurations, the hardware receiving the restore needs to have an identical configuration to the hardware that was the source of the backup, although virtualization techniques and careful planning can enable a bare-metal restore to a hardware configuration different from the original.
Disk imaging applications enable bare-metal restores by storing copies (images) of the entire contents of hard disks to networked or other external storage, and then writing those images to other physical disks. The disk image application itself can include an entire operating system, bootable from a live CD or network file server, which contains all the required application code to create and restore the disk images. -Wikipedia
http://www.neowin.net/news/redo-backup-and-recovery-104
You lot must be behind over there in them states of tha USA... here in Oz, every major store is offering machines with Win 8 preinstalled, and nothing else.... like no Win 7 of any flavour. Checked in with a few smaller stores and the story's the same.... NO WIN 7. As for XP and Vista... well it's go whistle... has been for about 18 months or more.
Jafo, you may have TI 2013, but it is STILL 2012.... meaning my 2012 copy is current. Just because you bought your copy early, don't mean mine is out of date.
It won't be until 31.12.2012, if you want to get testic... er, technical.
So wot yer sayin', then, is that I can pick up December's Playboy [for the articles] now?
Hehe, the last time I purchased a playboy was December 1980 or 81... I remember it well. A friend told me it had a hilarious take on the 12 days of Christmas song inside and that I should read it. Well I did... read it... well partly at least. Yeah, I was laughing so loud the newsagent said I was disturbing his customers and asked me to leave.... meaning I needed to purchase the damned mag if'n I wanted to finish the joke. So, I took it home and amongst the bevy of busty beauties was the uproarious '12 Days Of Christmas'... and I don't think I've laughed so hard since.
However, I yet again digress....
double post
Another free option that works with 8: http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx
No, we are just not being force fed the products we choose to buy. Yet.
Gee, I wonder what major software company may have had a hand in that marketing strategy?
I don't freakin' smoke tha stuff... clogs up the lungs worse than tobacco, which I no longer smoke... nearly 3 years now. However, I do occasionally smoke after intercourse...
.... which according to IROKONESS, means I'm doing it too fast.
I'm not too sure I'll go with even a cheap upgrade at this point. I'm playing around with Win 8's backup utility at the moment and have found it to do the job as required. It doesn't have all the flowery extras found in Acronis, some of which I found useful, but I'm thinking it does the basic job of backing up well enough to not part with any more cash. I still have 4 days to decide with the Acronis 19.99 offer. Thing is, I'm tight as a fishes arse when it comes to money, so we'll see.
[quote who="Wizard1956" reply="23" id="3283517"]P.S. There are tens of thousands of Windows 7 machines still for sale. You didn't think they all got scrapped or sent back to have Whine8 installed didja?
Um, not here! As stated earlier, the major stores here in Oz are offering only Win 8 machines now. A neighbour told me she recently went to Harvey Norman [one of those major stores] to buy a Win 7 machine but was told she could ONLY purchase a Win 8 machine AND a Win 7 installation disc to self-install if that's what she wanted. She got a similar story at OfficeWorks, so took my advice and went to my regular PC guy to get a custom built Win 7 rig there. It's sad but true, when new PC tech hits the shelves here in Oz, the old [if you can call it that] disappears pretty quickly.... and most large retailers won't order it in for you. Some of the smaller independents may keep/carry some of the older stuff, but the trouble with that is hunting around for what you need, especially when a lot aren't online [believe it or not] and are often too busy to talk on the phone.
I wouldn't have seen that, being a current subscriber... but I may have gone ballistic, had I seen it.
Thanks Doc, I'm downloading it now and will take a look later... 'tis 5.45am, haven't been to bed yet and need to get some shuteye.
Thanks Frankief, I've also downloaded this one and will check it out later.
Hmmm, let me guess... wouldn't be that Microsuff wot Uvah keeps talking about, would it?
Probably, and because we never went into recession and the economy is strong, Microstuff figures we're up for that marketing strategy.
Bastards!!!! First they make a new OS that's compatible with eff all, and now they're pulling all the good shit off the shelves.... BASTARDS!!!!!
Oh, and if anybody's wondering why it has taken me so long to respond here, Shaunna is sick and I've been up and down to her all night, so yeah, some time elapsed between posts. I think it's one of those 24 hour bugs because she has been feeling a little better over the last hour or so. Well here's hoping that's all it is.
Anyway, she's sleeping comfortably now and that's what I'll be doing shortly... need to finish my cuppa [tea] first.
Please give her my best wishes for a speedy recovery, Mark. [no pun intended].
Give Shaunna my best Mark. Hope she feels better.
I prefer the term "fiscally sensible"
I figured that was a big piece of the frustration, just wasn't going to say it, I'm the same way. That and I think we've talked about how annoying it is to buy stuff to literally just flush down the toilet.
Nope, not a big fan of o/s upgrades.
Hope the sick one feels better soon.
A quick Google...
"The official release date for True Image 2013 by Acronis is August 27, 2012 (for English..."
Having a '12' in the name in a year with '12' doesn't make something 'current'.
Another quick google...
"The official release date for Acronis True Image Home 2012 is August 23, 2011."
Get well soon, Shaunna...
Okay, so mrs s is feelin somewhat better today and is on the mend... thanks to all for the well wishes. Thing is, now I'm feeling like crap. It's probably that I've had no sleep whatsover and I'm running on empty, as I'm not suffering the nausea and stuff that befell Shaunna yesterday... touch wood.
So much for going to bed, eh! Not long after saying I would, my mother rang, saying that she and my sister were coming to visit, It would have been rude to have just gone to bed, so I spruced myself up a bit and hung in there. Besides, mother is off to the UK again and I wanted to catch up before she leaves on Wednesday.
There seems little point of going to bed now [1.56pm]. Hmmm, I may as well see if I can hang on 'til this evening to hopefully get back into a regular sleep pattern. I've been out of kilter in that regard for the past few weeks and would love to have a decent night's sleep again.
Anyway, back to the topic of backup software and what I've done thus far. Well I installed Macrium Reflect [free version] and found it quite capable and easy enough to use, and while it has a few more features than the built in solution in Win 8, it is lacking a few I'm accustomed to using. However, it is more than adequate for my backup needs... as is the built-in solution in Win 8.
As for Redo Backup and Recovery, well it is also easy enough to use and quite adequate for my needs.... decisions, decisions. Thing is, with Redo being disc based, I could actually use both without bloating my Windows installation, but would it be overkill with Win 8's backup utility as well? Then there's biting the bullet and spending the 20 bucks to get a full featured solution with Acronis' 2013 upgrade.
Hmmm, decisions, decisions! C'mon people, WTF do I go with... and no, the 20 bucks for Acronis 2013 isn't out of the question.
thanks
Doc, Uvah,and jafo, while i feel a little better, i feel weak but i am on the mend i have kept cups of tea and some foods down so far even if only in small amounts .
lol I'm sure there's a prescription to aid with that somehow.
And so glad your feeling better mrs_starkers. So far I have missed a few doozies. Knock on wood.
Jafo, while others just stuck the knife between my ribs, you just had to twist it, didn't you... not once but thrice.
I was briefly thinking of using that oft used Oz term of endearment to express my hurt, but then I figured "bastard" might be a bit strong... and I do want to be able to log in tomorrow.
It's like when I asked the cop if he'd arrest me for calling him a dirty rotten bastard, and he said yes. I then asked him if he'd arrest me for thinking it. He said that he couldn't arrest me for thinking it, so I said: "Well in that case, then, I think you're a dirty rotten bastard."
Seriously, though, I'm not really that perturbed by Acronis' decision not to update 2012 for Win 8, and 20 bucks won't exactly break the piggy bank. Besides, being that mine wasn't a multi machine license, and my Win 7 machine for upstairs needs a backup solution, I was up for a new copy/license anyway.
Thing is, knowing many folk around here as well as I do, I knew if I baited the hook I'd get several bites and acquire some useful information [like the $19.99 upgrade as opposed to a $29.99 upgrade] while creating a thread to break the silence and/or monotony that breaks out here every once in a while.
Yup, I'm sassy bastard, aren't I... but it's all good, and other folks are now aware of the situation when updating to Win 8, etc.
Yeah, as if I could build enough momentum with my bad back and other arthritic issues... but it sorta sounded good at the time.
Which reminds me of the time I was at the front door answering a survey for one of those womens mags obsessed with such matters. The woman asked if I smoked after intercourse, and I responded: "To be quite honest, I've never looked!"
Then there was the 2 spinsters on their way to a desperate and dateless ball. As they were walking past the tannery [where they turn hides into leather] one sniffed and asked if she could smell burning hair. The other sniffed and asked if perhaps they were walking a bit too fast.
thanks irokoness, getting there but feeling a bit weak
starkers...I'm a fair dinkum Aussie...so 'bastard' means you love me...so don't fret...
I'd still go with Acronis...as it's the one I have successfully used several times...on several machines.
Go for 13 ....just do it before 2014, eh? ....
Nah, no fretting here, I was just toying with words. Besides, bastard is most often used with affection here in Oz, rather than as an insult, and over the years [43 of them on December 24] I've been called a Pommy bastard more often than I can remember, often by very good friends.
The more I think about it the more I'm leaning that way... because it has those added utilities I found rather useful, and I am somewhat more familiar with it than other offerings.
What, I can't go straight to 2014 to save myself this trouble when Win 9 comes out?
http://www.techbuy.com.au/p/78948/SYSTEMS_SMALL__HOME_OFFICE/Techbuy/TBOS78948.asp
Australian store. Scroll down to operating system options, it offers windows 7.
Okay, so a few smaller traders here and there are still offering Win 7 with their builds, but expect MS to dry up Win 7 disc supplies in the near future to nip that in the bud ASAP.
However, that was not my point. Try getting a machine with Win 7 preinstalled from Hardly Normal, Officeworks and Myer, etc... major PC outlets. Like my neighbour said, they're stocking Win 8 machines and will not take orders for PC's loaded with Win 7. The Hardly Normal salesman offered her a Win 8 PC and a do-it-yourself Win 7 disc for an additional cost, warning her that the option would only be available for a very short time.
Me, I refuse to shop at Hardly Normal, for the sniveling, whiney-assed hypocrite Gerry Harvey is. Bastard [not said with affection] lobbied government to impose high taxes on online purchases so's his billionaire arse enjoyed even greater profit from his already over-priced stores, the slimy prick that he is.
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