Very soon we plan to release the very first Map Pack for Elemental: Fallen Enchantress. In addition to a new hand crafted map for every map size along with new stamps to spice up random map generation, it also includes the full Anthys map. A gigantic map that contains the entire known world of Elemental (at least, as of ~150 AC).
frogboy, how about two versions of the dlc, one shaved down in size for the 32 bit crowd, and one enlarged for the 64 bit crowd?
personally I would prefer the 64 bit
harpo
Please please, kind Froggie.
I'll buy two of 'em if don't do any MP!
Hmmm, missed the part about how this has a $5 cost....Not sure about that.
Theres the well,its only $5 angle,and yes thats almost an inconsequential amount......BUT then theres that i essentially bought this game like 2 years ago under its first incarnation,and it was so broken you told me id get the next incarnation for free if i hung in there (paraphrased)....and now here we are and your asking me for $5 for "official " premade maps.......that youve decided are NOT part of the deal.
IF i give you $5 for the maps,am i not still rewarding you for not providing me with a solid product 2 years ago ?
Or did i miss how this was covered under the original purchase as well as having originally missed the $5 information ?
If i remember correctly,the original preorder for the first incarnation came with an in game item, that is NOT part of the new incarnation of the game.Id gladly consider this map pack as the replacement for that item.
You're overthinking it, man. You bought a game (as did I), which turned out to suck, and Stardock said - we're sorry about that, here, have another game for free, this one's better. They didn't have to do that and most game studios wouldn't, they don't owe you or I anything, it was purely out of the goodness of their hearts / in order to maintain their good reputation with their fans (take your pick depending on how cynical you are ).
That's done, okay. This is something extra and separate they did just to gauge the interest in DLC, it has nothing to do with WoM, treat it as a separate transaction. Either the maps are worth $5 to you or they aren't, that's what Stardock is trying to learn here. Personally: okay, I give in, that full Anthys map is worth the $5 to me. You can only do an awesome huge map of the whole world rooted in the lore once though, I hope the next DLC has more than maps - a new faction(s) with new models, special units, and/or faction/unit traits to go with maybe? There has been a lot of complaining about diversity and such.
I'm glad someone explained what stamps are. I'm definitely going to pick this up!
Yes, because the game allowing us to play with our friends would inconvenience you Wizaerd.
Though if an MP will be part of a DLC at some point.. I'd personally prefer it be like the single player experience. AI phase, player A(B,C,E, etc).
The price behind DLC is justified as it is time they (Stardock, or whomever really) are spending time to create something that is not a core component to the game. It can be played and enjoyed with or without. So you are paying for the convenience of not having to go in by hand and build the cool stamps and maps yourself.
It would, because it would reallocate development effort, time, and resources from the SP to MP, all for a very small percentage of players. So yes, it would greatly inconvienence me.
I support this unpopular opinion. Brad has explained many times how much effort, ie time and money it takes to create a multiplayer component for a game, and then there's only very few people using it, and most of them only a couple of times. It really would affect future improvements to the single player experience. And then, with multiplayer, there would be even more whining about balance...
Count me in. Was initially sceptical about a map pack but the big map sold it for me.
First, where is the evidence to support your claim? Second, the game is finished. DLC is added extra-take it or leave it-content. The majority or minority is irrelevant. We'd get what we pay for, and if there are those of us out there willing to pay for it.
If you think this game is finished, you've not played it very much. There is an abundance of bugs yet remaining, as well as a plethora of things that can be added. As far as evidence to support my claim? Which claim exactly? The one where developmental resources would be reallocated? That's not a claim, that's how the world works. Being a professional software developer for over 30+ years, I've seen and have been part of this reallocation bunches of times. You have to look at the ROI for embarking on such a path, and based on polls taken here, that return would be minimal.
Or i could look at it as,is the new incarnation a kept promise as a replacement for the first incarnation.
First incarnation had HUGE as a map size selection.Its not in the new incarnation.As map size is a big one for me,the new incarnation is a step backwards in that.I paid for a game with HUGE maps.
First incarnation had more factions allowed per map.Now i seem limited to a max of 8.Another big one for me,and to me another step in the wrong direction.
First incarnation had ships.New incarnation doesnt..Another big one for me,and another step in the wrong direction far as i feel about it.
BUT for only $5 more,i can get huge maps back,ships back,etc... ?Things i already paid for ,i can now pay an additional $5 to get back ?Seems to me they could have picked a far better choice of features to test dlc reactions,than ones i already paid for in the original purchase.
You can add as many factions as you want, same as in WoM. However you can only have 1 of each so after 8 you have to create custom factions.
Ships never worked in WoM. Like in FE they existed solely for the campaign.
I'll buy it for the stamps. But also to support more substantial DLC.
But this isn't a replacement, this is an addition. They certainly did not take away your right to play WoM. So you now have 2 different games for the price you paid.
Ships were a feature the original was sold as containingas far as i remember.Ships were usable by players,i clearly remember building and using them.The AI had issue using ships,and there were some bugs and issues with them for player use as well,so at some point in the originals "development" after retail they were dropped.Much as the whole first incarnation was dropped in favor of providing buyers with a new more solid incarnation.
So I still look at this as having bought a game that included ships as a feature.
On opponents.Ive created multiple custom factions but never gotten more than a choice of 8 as max.So i went back in and messed with it some more.And your right.The catch is,you have to not only create a custom faction,but a custom leader for the faction.i was going as far as the making the faction and saving it, at which point the game was telling me the "faction was ready to be lead into the world",then because i was expecting and wanting the ai to generate a leader on its own for the faction,if i didnt, i was using back without creating a leader.
The message "faction was ready to be lead into the world" had me thinking that from the factions creation point it existed for use as far as the system was concerned.I was obviously misunderstanding how the system worked for that,so thanks,your answer made me take another look and figure out where i was going wrong on that feature.
You're sounding...kind of entitled to me.
You still have WOM. If you want to play that, play that. It had Dynasties too. Does that mean FE has to have dynasties? FE isn't a replacement game.
If you want the map pack, cough up the 5 bucks.
Buying hoping for more/better in the future.
People keep saying it isnt a replacement game,but it is.When refunds were offered,the choice was hang in there and get incarnation 2 (then called an expansion) for free because,
"companies have a moral obligation to deliver what they say they're going to deliver and frankly, Stardock failed to deliver the game we said we were going to deliver."
or get a refund.I didnt want a refund then, i dont want one now.I also however dont want to be double charged for features.
I'm definitely picking this up to support SD and for Anthys as well. I'd like to know if this will increase the max map size for random maps. Also, where can we go to pick up some user-created maps? I'd like to see Middle-earth, the real earth, and I dunno but I'm sure somebody can think of some more cool ones.
I can see where you are coming from. In a perfect world you have a point. But in the real world Stardock have tried quite hard to be reasonable. Ultimately they are a business and they need to make money. If WoM had been released exactly like FE then I would have been fairly happy. Sure some people feel differently but I think we're quibbling over minor points, Stardock have done more than most games companies would have.
Of course that doesn't mean I'm letting them off the hook for releasing FE too early! I'm still waiting for another couple of rounds of substantial bug fixes before I'll regard it as complete.
You got a free game (and should also be getting the second major expansion free too). But you aren't entitled to get everything Stardock makes for free for the rest of your life.
Honestly, I would buy a $5 DLC just to get a pony.
But Stardock foolishly already included it in the base game!
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