Apart from bloody Balmer the economist running a tech company...
I want to make one thing clear.. Windows 7 is the best operating system to have ever been released by Microsoft..
Windows 8 is the worst piece of shit in the whole history of microsoft and i can probably guess theres some kind of espionage thing going on where they convert all user hate mail about the new ui to positive reviews.
Anyway --i think this is the best for everyone because now we can all buy macs. Awesome!
Is there a source you could provide where there is a hint of that written somewhere by MS or equal
OMG GUIZE WINDOWS IS WORSE THAN LIEK ONE MILLION SPACE STALINS BECUASE THEY ARE HAZ ALL TEH MOONEHS!!!!
Oh wait. Apple is the worlds most valuable company. I lied.
-Lord Brony
It's not fear, starkers. It's simply recognizing the (to me and apparently some others) obvious. The closed environment is what MS hopes (intends) to achieve. At first it will be MS's own productivity apps which will, in some way and at some point, become rent-only from the Microsoft Store. If/when they have enough desktops/tablets/phones on Win8, developers who wish to provide products that run on Win8 will have little choice but to go along. People originally thought iTunes would fail for the same reasons you argue - because the music companies would refuse to give up 'control'. You really think the music companies were 'weaker' than Adobe or any other major app developer? I also think many developers would look upon the opportunity to garner long-term revenue streams (rents) more favorably than you think.
Mind you, it depends on the concept of critical mass. Apple achieved it, MS may not. But MS is going to give it a helluva go. If you step back and look at the big picture, every bit of Microsoft's current strategy is ultimately about the Microsoft Store. I personally hope it doesn't succeed, but I'm not banking on that hope.
Blind leading the blind. Some people just don't see it.
No, it's not the same... the music companies just saw another revenue stream and went with it. Software is more complex and the developers would not want MS to have total/complete control over their creations. It may be that small developers would jump at the chance of a revenue stream they would otherwise not see, but Adobe and Corel, etc, have much more to lose if they gave up control of their livelihoods to MS. You may argue that they would have no livelihoods without MS, but the argument goes both ways.
Without the necessary software tools for businesses to work and compete, Windows becomes a fairly closed system without the means to ends. The relationship is interdependent and MS knows it, so for as much weight it thinks it carries, MS cannot afford to alienate its partners.
I assume you intended to say, the OP has Not returned...
Evidently, 10 pages later, nothing wrong at all...
starkers - you need to re-read some of the news from the period of iTunes' launch. There was serious pushback from the music companies until they knuckled under, although I'll admit it was more about how much the trick would cost, not so much that they were hookin'. I still believe that MS will no more 'alienate its partners' than Apple did. My opinion, YMMV.
Windows Blue looks likely to replace Windows 8 as early as next year, according to Microsoft insiders. According to unnamed sources speaking to a Chinese news site, first spotted and translated into English by ZDNet, Microsoft is planning a major update to its operating system towards the second half of 2013 - and it is likely to keep doing so every year thereafter in a serious change to its release schedule that will see it brought closer to Apple's operating model.
http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/software/1296226/windows-blue-to-replace-windows-8-in-2013-sources-claim
RUMORS - its all just based on rumors until MS officially announces something, nothing that all those expert rumor pages claims about this step is true or based on real token evidence whatever.An example the link you have just posted i got one here aswell that tells another version MSkynet about to launch with BLue just kiddingI could continue to post these, all claim something different it all depends if you believe in rumors - i know im not willing to believe what a single chinese tech page has said, its simply not enough evidence since there is no official statement from MS yet and as we all know they like to flip things around anyway if time gets short.
Yep. MS is going to say: Soon we will change to an apple model. Please buy into our scheme, we need cash badly to maintain our usurper profit margins we enjoyed so long.
It's a question of very simple math. MS major revenue streams for their business products are drying up as the old locked in system doesn't work anymore. They blundered with W8,Surface and winphone.
In other words, if they don't do something about it shareholders are going to be mighty discontent in a few years when the fixed contracts run out.
So they need a new business model. But now they have to operate where they never operated before: in a fair and even competitive market. Evidently by joining the UI's they had the illusion that by their platform virtual monopoly they could rope in the tablets and phones by making their OS look and behave like it.
That that was bound to fail stands to reason, no sane person wants his high powered pc to behave like an underpowered mobile phone. So apart from some rare exceptions W8 fell on deaf ears.
So they started to give it away in the hope that way they could regain the desktop, problem is that w8 without the hideous UI is just w7 with some slight tweaks. So although giving stuff away free works for a while, one day you will have to regain the losses incurred.
And there is only one way to do that, become Apple. Control the hardware (UEFI), how you can install software, charge on that.
Not so hard to grasp now is it?
It's where the "connected-world" wants to go. They (Apple, MS, etc. ) are just giving the world at large what it wants. If they didn't, they would no longer be in business. Simple really. As long as companies everyone loves to hate are in business they must be doing something right.
Now that shouldn't be hard to grasp eh?
petrossa...
You are STILL using some annoying/useless browser/text editor which includes 1/2 page of BLANK with your posts... to the point they need to be edited/cut.
Can you please simply use the text reply window within the forum.
Here's an example of how consumers can be hosed by the walled-garden approach, basically a protection racket, severely limiting options which ought to be readily available and portable. It's the Gambino's vs. the Genovese's.
Seems to me that Microsoft was/is quite willing to compromise... and that Apple is a greedy effer.
This, from the article....
"Microsoft has persisted in trying to work out a compromise with Apple, but has thus far failed to come to an agreement. The company offered to remove all subscription options from its application, leaving it a non-revenue generating experience on iOS. The offer was rebuffed."
.... says it all for me. Microsoft is saying that it would provide the additional service free of charge to IOS users, yet Apple is refusing to budge, thus denying its customers a service they might otherwise use.
I knew there was more than one reason why I dislike Apple. Apart from chasing down more technological patents than the remainder of the entire tech commuity combined, and launching more lawsuits than the entire series' of Perry Mason, LA Law and Rumpole of the Bailey, Apple would purposefully deny its customers a freedom of choice, simply because it can't take a cut of free. That to me is the lowest of the low, and for its arrogance, Apple will never see a cent of my money.
Nail, meet hammer.
No question Apple is a hoarder and monopolist-wannabe. Since MS wants to become Apple Lite, it will be interesting to see if they can come to a reasonable accommodation that doesn't screw us in the process.
I read starkers experience with Win 8 and decided to follow suite and install Win 8!
I am pleasantly surprised, I find it intuitive. Navigating with mouse is cumbersome so I will be getting a touch-pad soon. I expected all manner of gotchas but so far nothing, not being a "power user" could be one reason !
Much faster startup and shutdown is a big plus for me and alot snappier in use!
Miss my Windowblinds tho, I know the team is working on it at Stardock, so it will be ready when its ready!
Thanks starkers!
I find it funny that some people don't think that MS is a monopoly. Interesting.
I find it funny that some peope still don't realise that the reason these big businesses are making the decisions they are making is because enough people want them to. Interesting.
As I have stated in this thread time and again. They (big tech business) must be doing something right or they would be no longer. No amout of anti-this or anti-that hyperbole will change the fact that more and more people are moving toward "connected" (ie. cloud etc.) and mobile-based computing every day. That is why the companies you love to hate have shifted their focus there as well. Get on the train or move out of the way!
if it were 2005 you would be right. it is 2012 though, most tablets and smartphones outperform the desktop you are running.
Guess I'll move out of the way. Why? I don't trust anyone with my data so I will never use cloud based storage.
I think 'the cloud' was used as an example. As far as trusting anyone/no-one with your data? I found this interesting: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/12/12/1925240/ie-flaw-lets-sites-track-your-mouse-cursor-even-when-you-arent-browsing and this: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/12/12/0432217/how-websites-know-your-email-address-the-first-time-you-visit How funny is that?
Good thing I don't use IE.
Microsoft agreed to that cut when started developing for this platform. it is them who want to change the rules now. and it is not about SkyDrive, it is about the coming MS Office for iOS.
on the other hand you won't have much choice on Windows Phone/RT/8 either, but for a different reason:
Glad to have been of service in some small way.
Yes, Win 8 is a top notch OS, but it is only the beginning of a new era of computing. In other words, it is the precursor to much greater things to come, and why I decided to get on board now. To attempt entry 2 or 3 Oses down the track would leave one with too steep a learning curve, and by then I'll be a much older dog who won't easily take to new tricks.
As for the mouse being cumbersome, well I'm not finding it that way. I changed some settings in Control Panel and it's quite zippy now. Having said that, I might find a touch-pad to be even zippier once I'd gotten accustomed to it.
It may have been considered a monopoly some years back, but not these days. Apple is probably more monopolistic these days, and certainly greedier, more arrogant and loathesome. The consequences of Apple's relentless pursuit of patents has yet to be felt, as in Samsung recently felt just a small measure of its legal wrath and the worst is yet to come. In fact, I see Apple and Google banging heads in the not too distant future, and that Google will prevail because it has the resources and will out-Apple Apple in the courtroom.
Maybe kona's because he's stuck with an old P4 until finances improve, but not mine... 4.2ghz; 16gb DDR3 RAM; GTX560; 240gb SSD; Soundblaster X-Fi Fatality Pro. No pad or phone is going to cram that much power into such a small enclosure, and why desktop PC's will always be required for content creation/editing.
Being the article seemed to indicate the opposite, that's not how I read it... but oh well.
And Microsoft would be hurt by this how? Seems to me somebody at Google has it wrong. As a result of having an Android phone and tablet that I use in conjunction with my PC, I now have several Google apps running on Win 8... Google Earth; Maps; Mail, etc, etc.
For mine, that was somebody at Google just getting mouthy. Does it hold water/have any substance? Probably not, and MS has nothing to worry about.
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