Salted pork is a create, cheap item to use to heal your champs instead of going Life tree..but pork isnt kosher/Halal and thus I cant use it. Please change this so the items are culturally acceptable to every player. THanks
funny all i see is science we know and science we don't know, which primitive cultures/people tend to call "magic".
Oh, I love the stuff in games. I crusade/jihad with great joy in Crusader Kings. But could you imagine me asking Paradox to take out all the religious stuff out of Crusader Kings because it offends me as an atheist? How fucked would that be?
The real reason why this thread annoys me is that sooner or later Lord Xia will be asking for salted pony.
Let me fix this for you "and other fanatics who believed that a dogmatic idea trumps rational thought and observed evidence"
No, it is OK to ridicule because it (1) shows a total lack of understanding of the religion which the poster is supposed to be following, (2) it ignores much worse violations of other rules that do not even have dispensations as this one does (3) ignores the perfectly valid solution of abstaining from the things that would conflict with the covenant, (4) ...
And all of these show that the poster is at best ignorant, and at worst... well, is there a depth to which humans won't descend when they think that they are getting orders from a being whose divinity trumps everything including reason, common sense and society's rules?
I mean, Stalin put Lenin in a glass coffin, and claimed to be working from Marx's blueprints. Scripture, martyrs, idols and saints... what does this remind me of?
No I'm serious but not as serious as a lot of people are making this. I use the salted pork. Its a good cheap heal and anyone who isnt using it is a noob. However, every time I do detracts from my enjoyment of the game because in my culture(which is practice by a large chunk of humanity for thousands of years) pork is bad. I should have said add other heal items rather than remove pork..but still it would be nice to take my enjoyment of the game into account and make this very minor change.
Well, you can can mod it out, problem solved! Yay for modding!
Attempting to push banning something from the game is intolerant, but just as intolerant are those who reply with 'because you refuse to eat pork, I'm gonna eat more pork just to make you angry.' At least the OP has some semblance of obliviousness to the effect he's trying to push on everyone, the mongers who post they're going to do something specifically to ire the OP are certainly no better.
New Expansion title: The Fundamental Enchantress. Screen cover Cersa in a Burka in the kitchen...
This game's concepts violate a lot of religious commandments from many various religions.. Blood curse anyone? Blowing up a Kingdom city because they dislike the titans? Death worship, feeding people to demons in exchange for having them guard your cities? OK yeah eating pork is the least pressing of the "moral issues" this game covers. (Not to mention you maybe offending the game's characters beliefs)
And finally games are meant as a way to escape and should not have to deal with our real world problems. If you want a champion that adheres to your values fine, but don't go forcing others to do the same. OP is silly.
I think most are making comments because of the very obliviousness you are referring too. I think Heavenfall had the easiest approach.
I hate to make an assumption on which culture the OP is from, but most cultures also state it is a bigger crime to die than to eat a pig. So even in game terms, the OP is choosing the lesser of two evils practiced by one of the two cultures that I am assuming he/she is part of.
That said, the spell Steal Spirit the OP would also surely have an issue with. Every religious culture I know of would have a problem with a person that is capable of stealing a spirit while murdering someone. How about Cull the Weak? For the meek share inherit the world. Except in Elemental, they are merely cannon fodder for me to kill so I can have more mana. How about sacrificial altar, or Blood Rage (wrath is a sin), or the spell "KILL" and "Sacrifice" and Soulburning. Blood Curse i'm sure is another one that will have some issues. Summon Imp is basically calling a demon to your service.
The obliviousness is the issue. You look at the game as a whole there is probably something in there to offend every culture. Are you going to take all of that out? Each person can mod it out on their own but then you are going to have some serious game play issues. Any Sovereign that is Death Magic based is pretty much screwed. Of course there is the aspect that this is just a game and no one is really doing all this stuff, including eat salted pork---which again is even allowed in case of stopping ones death.
****edit****Polistes--you edited your comment while I was typing mine.
More importantly I want the devs to add in "Gangnam Style" to the tactical spells. Its effects, all allied units breakout dancing Gangnam Style with the song playing in the background. The enemy side immediately forfeits.
This is silly,
what about vegans. Salted fish or meat is a problem, so is milk.
If this was to be corrected. it should be something like salted orc ( or some fantasy meat that cannot be mapped to some religious or political issue)
Remember this is game. it is not a religious/political simulation
It is salted with "kosher salt" that makes everything kosher, so it's okay. Kosher salt can be even bought in shops IRL, see for yourself:
How Tolkien of you Frog.
To quote enoeraew37
Opening post of the thread
"Salted pork is a create, cheap item to use to heal your champs instead of going Life tree..but pork isnt kosher/Halal and thus I cant use it. Please change this so the items are culturally acceptable to every player. THanks"
Reply #3
"I didnt say its offensive..I said -i- cant use it."
Reply #106
"No I'm serious but not as serious as a lot of people are making this. I use the salted pork. Its a good cheap heal and anyone who isnt using it is a noob."
I think the OP is best ignored.
lol nice try but it doesn't work like that..
you most kosher all meat. But not all meat can be kashered..
As I read this thread and munch on my bacon wrapped ham I think to myself...
I wonder if you can ignore a user and not see his posts or threads?
If this guy was serious and not trolling for attention then he would know that not eating bacon is all about sacrifice. And not getting cheap heals reinforces that sacrifice and makes him a better person. He should specifically not eat it and feel better about himself because of it.
In the meantime I can't believe I replied to this troll post
Wait, I want to get scruvy. Scruvy sounds like a cross between screw and groovy, and that, my friend, should not be disallowed by any religion.
It's not you or your culture that's in this game, however. It's a sovereign, who has appeared following a different world history, with it's own unique lore. You aren't eating salted pork, anymore than you're starting up cities, hiring champions, or casting spells that grow and shrink people, slow them down, heal them, etc. Your sovereign is. So with respect, I don't see the issue.
And as others have already pointed out, you can always mod the item away very easily. Or ignore it when it shows up. I mean, your religion also says no killing, right? You're actually killing creatures as much as you're eating salted pork when you play FE, which is to say, not at all.
If he's not a troll then his own religious convictions are so inconsistent that he can't be taken seriously.
While we're at it, please consider correcting other egregious offenses against mankind. Off the top of my head:
-Abolish Magnar
-Axe Raise Land - think of the coral reefs!!!
-Send Irane back to the kitchen (sheesh)
-Curgen's Volcano - are you promoting genocide, Brad? A more humane spell like Lift City to L5 Space Colony would do.
I think its funny No need to change it.
It would only be funny if this was animated (then it would be a visual gag). As it is not currently animated then its not funny, just stupid
They weren't atheist they were religious zealots who believe very very strongly in communism. Which is a religion that does not tolerate other religions
PS. Still waiting on an answer to "how can you be both jewish and muslim at the same time" since the op claims to follow BOTH kashrut and halal.
True, a quite vexing question. Which really makes me think that the OP is just trollin'.
This thread made me hungry.
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