you still don't get it . . . okay say the buyer is only paying 50 million. 1 billion was just a hypothetical number. the final sale amount does not technically matter. what does matter is that they are they same.

if I pay 50 million for both properties you better explain to me why I have to pay 50 million for a house that only cost 2.5 million to make and the same amount for a house that cost 500 million to make. in the end I the buyer will judge the two properties based on the fact they will cost me 50 million. what it cost to build the two is completely irrelevant at the point of sale.

in the end if I knew how much the houses cost to make I would never pay 50 million for the 2.5 million dollar property. it's an automatic no brainer to go for the 500 million one. the only time the cost of the project matters is if you want to look back at it from an engineering stand point and make a technical analysis of the two. from the consumer stand point it is useless and usually a hidden aspect.

Civ V is the first Civ game I havent bought. Maybe I try it sometime, but they butchered what was the best game ever (CIV IV).

 

yes I would definately try it out. give it a chance and try not to think too much about the critics. it's a lot better than they make it out to be.

seanw3: exactly now you get it. I do agree with you on a lot of points. don't get me wrong I don't regret paying $70 on WoM because I know eventually Stardock will make good on their promise. At the time though I had to say Civ V was the superior game. Someone new to the scene though might not be so willing to take the bait of triple A prices from an indie developer.

Civ4 is my most favored game. No games yet come close. But out of the box it was broken and weak. It took years of a frustrating patch process to make vanilla Civ4 worthy of high praise. Yet still I think of it as mediocre. For me the game is all about the mods. I didn't think the BTS expansion was anything special. It was hyped huge, but fell well short. Yet scores of mods built off Civ4 and BTS, are indeed something special. Masterful games. There are dozens that I favor. Mods like Fall from Heaven and The History of Three Kingdoms, far surpass the vanilla game. They are what make Civ4 the best game I've ever played. They are what keep me playing. As soon as I'm done typing this, and check to see if I've got FE beta access yet, I'll be getting back to playing a Civ4 mod (Master of Mana).

On a related note: I think E:FE stands to be a good game. But I think for it to be great, it must be as deeply moddable as Civ4.

About time they start fixing their game.... not just adding useless factions.

 

But on that note, I will possibly buy it, on sale of course.

I only have 2 actual games from Stardock, other than FE beta.  GalCivs 2, which I would give a 9/10 and WoM which would give about a 5/10.  With those two releases they are gien a Xiacritic score of 7/10.  What I own of Firaxis, Alpha Centauri 10/10, Civ 2 9/10, Civ 3 7/10, Civ 4 9/10, Civ V 8/10, Pirates 8/10, Colonization 8/10.  Giving Firaxis a Xiacritic score of 8.4/10.  All scores are subject to change at a whim.

Unless it fixes the broken battle AI I probably won't buy it on release.

 

Civ 2 was Microprose not Firaxis. So was the Original Pirates. (Thats of course ignoring that the actual staff for every game was different).

WOM was a disappointment but at least Stardock isn't trying to charge me 30$ for the fixes.

Ha I said that about civ.. they will butcher it and just keep the name to get sales. Throwing out all the original systems for new ones.. it would be alpha centauri in name only.. much like Civ V.

Then when you buy it you dare not complain.. cause people will tell you they don't understand the hate for it and "you only wanted Alpha centauri 1.5 and this is Alpha Centauri 2 so its going to be totally different, so why would you expect it to be anything like Alpha Centauri"

Of course eventually they will release an expansion that adds some of the old features calling them "New game elements".. and charge 30$ for it.

And then you'll go off on some diatribe and people will wonder why your ranting in some forum about it.

Ya but they won't do it. See A.C. is too complicated to bring in new players.. they gotta redo all the systems to bring in new players. "Streamline" it if you will.

Its okay.. cause just because they ditch all the gameplay dynamics.. and it seems like a different game entirely to you.. doesn't mean you shouldn't like it. "you have to judge it on its own merits not compare it to the original, its a new game in the series that doesn't mean it has to contain any of the systems the A.C. had"

 

To be fair they are both owned by Take 2.. Firaxis was bought by them shortly after the released of Civ IV. So.. ya.. don't expect much. Just like expecting anything from Bioware Is silly cause EA bought them and renamed all(not really but they did rename alot of)  their studios Bioware.

 

Companies make good games. Companies get bought out. People buy games based  on Game franchises or Studio names. Gamers lose, large gaming companies profit.

 

Name one studio acquisition that benefited gamers..I dare ya.(there might be one in the history of gaming but I can't think of it)