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Well, I started a thread back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike. I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc. Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.
Super fast background: I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust. Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me. In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards.
Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:
New Player tips
Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends
pacov's misc info
Here's a guide I made
pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo
k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts. I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so). We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not. Caveat complete.
Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role. You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not). You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2). In my case, I'm good at support and adc. I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops. Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important. If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know... Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it. I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.
Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles. Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby. Say "adc pref." Do this as soon as you hit the lobby. Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it. This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request. If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref." In my experience, you generally do not want to call support. It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible. If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you. If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win. You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.
Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo. If you solo, you have to rely on yourself. IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo. Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good? That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit. The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3. If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect. When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles. Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works. Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles. Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker. For example, Bryff is a good mid. If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered. In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing. Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game. Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support. If you want that, you can usually get it.
How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do. And this is really what I do on a regular basis. I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at. For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads. So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw. I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ). Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI. Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc. Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out. Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself. So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots). If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game. Then, do your best. Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role. And keep in mind what you need to work on. For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth. That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid. The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team. So, best to be ready for it. Put your time in and practice roles.
One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked. 1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want. Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT. 2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support. It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc. I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL. People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.
Lol King profiles for ranked tracking
I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them). Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time.
Snapshot updated 05/28/2014
Character guides
dreams of a world where riot gets some licensed skins from marvel:
Here's an udyr jungle guide from a former demigod player - wallstop.
http://www.lolpro.com/guides/udyr/365-udyr-build-guide-jungle-tiger-stance-by-wallstop
I would totally buy a Spidermumu skin and I have yet to buy any skins!
time well spent imo - give it a watch
clever
Yeah, thats the counter jungling Udyr build. I don't really like counter jungle Udyr is solo queue. It would be good in premades though if you had a good mid.
mayhaps, karl - I suck at jungle, so I'll leave that to you, but the early kill potential is higher anyway with tiger (that said, I'd play jungle udyr with phoenix as well for the fast clears).
Anywho... draven. I heart draven. I used to think he was rot, but now I love him as an adc. He has higher dmg potential than any adc early and he's the only adc that can peel for himself. Now, that won't save you from a good jungle gank, but it can give you a GIGANTIC advantage (above and beyond ANY other adc) late game. Here's why. And again, if you think I'm crazy, fine, but think about the following. The current holy trinity of adc's is ez, graves and corki. Why? #1 reason is an evade (dash/flash). After that, its any char that has a steroid (as/ad, etc). Corki doesn't have that like graves or ez. So, what does draven have? He has a steroid ability that can be cast every 2 seconds or so if he catches an axe. More importantly, he has an ability that displaces anyone attacking him (acting as a temp stun). This means if 2 characters dive for the back row, you can knock them away and keep attacking them. The main thing is that his ability typically keeps those enemies in range for him to hit (while ez/corki/graves as often out of position a little and cannot continue to attack). This means that with draven, you can continue to do more damage than other adc even after you would normally have had to flash away. So, ez/graves/corki are superior in that they can escape more easily, but draven is even better. He can escape easily because of his displace/steroid. he can also engage or stay in a fight more easily because of his displace/steroid. And he does more dmg than other adcs. So, I honestly think his potential is > than any other adc. It gets even better. No one bans him. Super. This means I can have ez banned out and reduce the champs that can go against me to graves/corki. Draven can out damage them as well. And last, riot will likely give a quality of life buff (this only matters for early game) to him in the form of the enemy not seeing that icon that shows where his axe will land.
Anyway - I draven. I'm not amazing with him yet, but I believe I'm slowly getting better and better. I feel more confident with him than any other adc currently at any rate.
Peter likes trash talking in the chat box (I think?). Maybe you can try some of that and see how he responds? One game he went eve jungle and was doing only ok, and getting raged on a lot, but he was getting lots of kills and was doing lots of good damage and trashing the mid/top and the team went ahead and won it.
apparently pete thinks karl/vlad are trolling him. As I typically play with those fellows, mr pete can't often play with me. Anyway, I assume we'll just go through a no pete period for a bit and then eventually start playing w/ him again.
it was nice to be back into the mix of things... hopefully see you guys on more now!
nerd fun
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2628422
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDCXma0v-fY
for your cat video viewing pleasure.
Holy crap was last night a huge arse whoopin. over and over. It was like every champion vlad laned against was op. Weirdest thing. Seriously, though. It was a pretty bad night for all of our team games. Literally nothing came together in like any lane. And in the game before we started all our 5 man team madness, I was trolled by a taric T'was a glorious evening. Ah well, I'm a glutton for punishment as I'm looking forward to it again.
I'm continuing to think through the banning process with more of a focus on the bottom lane. Along those lines, I'm thinking about what support would give you the biggest advantage to have if you could remove other supports from the mix. The best part is that they enemy team will typically remove ALI and/or blitz by banning them. That leaves 2 supports with easy to land hard cc (leona/taric). I'm wondering if banning out either taric or leona and then picking the remaining character as a 1st pick would be a decent strategy. With the threat of stun + an adc taking adv of that, I'd think it would be easy to get an advantage early. I know when I'm playing adc, the only really concern I typically have in early laning is in the threat of a stun. Could be my brain is just continuing to gravitate towards the kill lane strategy, though. eg - who cares if you stun me, we are now going to kill you. bah.
Anyway, been nice to play more with thunder lately.
Karl - why don't you ever buy an early oracles when you play a non-counter jungle udyr?
lower quality vid, but fing hilarious. I had to watch it like 1.5 times to get what had happened. DELIGHTFUL.
Good playing with you guys too... but only invite me in the future if Karl is playing! He seems to make the best mid and late game decisions and our jungling situation just falls apart without him... though it was kind of funny when Jona took over the role from me.
(When I was jungling with Lee Sin)
Forgot Who: "You don't need to ban Morganna, she's not all that."
Jona: "I need a gank mid!" (on Morganna)
Jona: "Why didn't you help me kill Morganna!?" (After I died from a Mundo AND Tris countergank)
Jona: "I'll jungle, I'm the only one in the group who can do it. Make sure to ban Morganna for me cause I'm playing Lee Sin and he can't gank her."
Me: "Is Karl done eating yet?"
About support banning, I'm all for it as long as someone is set to play a permaban champ that would normally not be in the game... otherwise you know how badly you'll be bitched at when the other team gets to play one.
hmm... silent patch went live recently.
edit - ah - looks like some updated graphics on the client - nothing special.
Because I am an extremely aggressive tower diver with Udyr in the mid game. If I took oracles, I'd have to play a lot more passively and we would probably lose out on kills.
If everybody is warding me out I'll get oracles or pink wards, but that rarely happens in all lanes. In the worst case scenario I can usually just camp mid.
Wow 5 man revive teams on dominion are stupid. It is like playing a 10v5.
winners don't play dominion vs dem people.
thx for the games tonight, bryff - fun times. cya!
world champ madness begins today!
1st game about to start
http://www.twitch.tv/riotgames
You can check out vids on demand of the best teams in the league here. It appears as if links for the all the games will go up here:
http://www.reddit.com/r/LoLeventVoDs/comments/10xwxu/season_2_world_championships_ongoing/
thx for bringing in a couple of your pals tonight thunder. And thanks for everyone being nice to my very inexperienced pal. It was quite a bit of fun and I really enjoyed myself at least. Hopefully the feeling was mutual. Night all!
I really recommend watching the m5 vs iG game. Good stuff.
Really looking forward to azubu frost vs tsm
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