I've locked/archived this thread/blog and have started a new discussion over here: http://forums.demigodthegame.com/454943/
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Well, I started a thread back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike. I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc. Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.
Super fast background: I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust. Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me. In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards.
Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:
New Player tips
Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends
pacov's misc info
Here's a guide I made
pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo
k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts. I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so). We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not. Caveat complete.
Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role. You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not). You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2). In my case, I'm good at support and adc. I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops. Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important. If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know... Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it. I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.
Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles. Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby. Say "adc pref." Do this as soon as you hit the lobby. Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it. This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request. If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref." In my experience, you generally do not want to call support. It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible. If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you. If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win. You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.
Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo. If you solo, you have to rely on yourself. IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo. Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good? That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit. The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3. If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect. When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles. Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works. Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles. Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker. For example, Bryff is a good mid. If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered. In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing. Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game. Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support. If you want that, you can usually get it.
How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do. And this is really what I do on a regular basis. I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at. For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads. So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw. I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ). Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI. Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc. Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out. Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself. So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots). If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game. Then, do your best. Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role. And keep in mind what you need to work on. For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth. That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid. The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team. So, best to be ready for it. Put your time in and practice roles.
One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked. 1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want. Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT. 2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support. It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc. I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL. People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.
Lol King profiles for ranked tracking
I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them). Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time.
Snapshot updated 05/28/2014
Character guides
I look at it this way, the asshole in me didn't come out, I will always see that as a victory.
My internet is popping in and out synn. It won't stay on long enough for me to get back on league
eh - thanks to karl for the carry in our ranked last night. I still think support yorrick is solid... as long as I can not magically miss my ult like 3 times. That said, I absolutely love his ult and its a huge game changer late game imo. Far superior to zils ult - sure, with zil, you aren't dead, which is great. There's not even the "you got killed by X person pop up on with zil." But with Yorrick - whoever you rez knows that the only job they have is to go batshite crazy and try to kill anyone they can after they die. The best part is that is shows you are dying to the enemy team, which means they generally immediately focus another target and forget about the ranged AD carry that just died... who comes back to life like 1 second later after they've changed target... and kills them all. Anyway, super useful ult imo and somewhat difficult to spot if everyone is clustered together. Plus that brief delay between death and being rezed is pretty solid. Anyway, I think I'll work yorrick more as a support from time to time.
Made a LoL related post over here: https://forums.joeuser.com/421139
Well, played 1 rank game yesterday and won 1 ranked game yesterday. Was yorrick solo top and played a game with vlad (human) as ashe. It felt like a pretty strange game though, so the elo level must have been a bit low. Seemed like most everyone took a strangely long time to react and kept doing unpredictable, weird things. The jungler was useless and ganked top lane exactly 1 time, mid no times, and bot ? times. The one time he came top I got a kill... woo. Anyway, we had a semi talented vlad mid, but he was literally all over the place. He'd be roaming through the enemies jungle. Couldn't really figure out what he was up to other than he'd try to dive like 3 of the enemy in the jungle and then I'd have to try to get to wherever his goofy arse was to try to make sure he lived. Anyway, just seemed like a weird one. Think I had lol replay going, so I might give it a watch later. Pretty easy win all said and done, though.
I've actually started doing banter in the game, not no flaming type crap though. Whether im winning or losing its fun to just do random banter.
my favorite that just gets to people whether in a good or a bad way, is when I'm using cass while hiding in the grass and a enemy is fleeing or charging to attack my ally. I poison than combo them and after they die I say "Be careful there are snakes in the grass."
last game i was in I had my whole team and some of the opposing team laughing and even joining in on the banter. Seriously the game is worse than demigod when it came to people not talking. Even in the lobby while waiting for a game or at character select.
I doubt you'll find that to be the case as you get to high levels. Always someone doing the jibba jabba
mostly that. You saw through my ruse. Can't think of too many people making too many jokes, etc in my level 30s. With the exception of crude, useless, jokes that some say at the start of the game... and often don't make any sense.
kuddos to you on getting people laughing and joking at any rate.
lol I just got called a noob for my banter.
I actually just do little stuff like say;
"aww thats so mean to hit a lady like that."
When I'm 1 v 1 in the midn and than finally osomeone has to retreat i'd say something like
"Did you enjoy our dance?" This one is so funny when i'm fighting a karthus remember im cass.
when i'm ganked i usually say something like
"Aww poor baby I'm sorry you had to share me."
If you remember my demigod saying post i made a while back on the dg forum than you can kinda guess where some of my saying went with cass. It actually got pretty scare in one game when annie joined in on the banter... and karthus.
I'm basically level 29 (one game away...)
Which is even closer to level 30...
sooooooo agonizing...
Anyhow,
I've been playing Viktor and examining his matchups, and he seems to be a very solid pick (if you ignore the fact that his late game is crap)
I think I may have to retract my previous statement that Viktor is not an AP carry, as I have been winning games with him (shocker)...
Rushing Augment: Death is a massive damage leap for Viktor, and will ensure that you will win any trades you have with the enemy AP carry.
I have also found an interesting resource for champion matchups, and though I disagree with a few of them, it is open to discussion:
www.championselect.net
@synn - well, occassionally I will sit in the top lane and talk the weather if neither of us are killing each other and we'll both inquire as to the well being of our junglers.
yay! Almost there. Keep in mind it really mostly matters for ranked, so no big deal if you aren't planning on diving in there. Victor is one I think I'd love to give a try, but don't know when/if I will. Hopefully he pops up as a freebie soon so I can check him out. I have something like 9k ip now.
Viktor was free like 4 weeks ago...
You are a little late for that boat.
And yes, I plan on diving right on in to Ranked games!
Booo...
Saw this somewhere else:
I thought that this was pretty well known. This is why I usually play fairly aggressively on tower dives in the mid game. If you dive somebody 2v1, and you get the kill but die in the process, its worth it. Your team got kill gold plus assist gold, they got only kill gold.
Well... fairly well known and known by everyone that reads this thread is another thing. Good point adding the other side thought (2 diving 1). Sometimes it helps to see the math right in front of you.
At someone's suggestion in the my thread about being a good sport, I checked out www.theoldergamers.com. For anyone interested, their an age requirement of being at least 25 years old to join and the basic premise is to provide a place for folks older than that to play games with like minded folks. I'm in the process of figuring out what "like minded" means amongst their folks that play LoL.
You have to jump through a few hoops to join their site, though. Nothing too over the top, but certainly some things to screen out some folks. You can register for their forums just like you would for any other site and that's quite easy; however, you can't even view the League of Legends forum until you become a full member. To become a full member, you have to post an introduction thread where you tell a little bit about yourself, what games you play, and indicate that you want to be a member. Then, one of their mods makes you a full member and you get access to all the content and their teamspeak servers, etc. Registering took about 2 minutes. The intro post took about 5. Then it took about 5-6 hours for a mod to check out my post and make me a full member.
Anyway, I started to browse the LoL forums (side note - did you know that Teemo is getting a buff in the upcoming patch?). The community doesn't seem to be incredibly active on the forum side of things... maybe 10 semi active threads and not a huge amount of folks participating in the jibba jabber. I checked out their teamspeak server and there was exactly 1 person in the LoL channel (more than a few in other channels). Then I checked their LoL chat room and there were about 10-12 folks idling in it, but no one was doing all that much chatting. I asked on the forums when people play and it appears that most of the folks get together between 6PM and 1AM EST week days. They supposedly do some pre mades (sounds like mostly normals) and some in house custom games. Me = hopes they aren't mostly a bunch of casual folks. pacov = still very hungry to a dedicated competitive team.
Once I get rolling into ranked, I'd be very willing to help make your dedicated competitive team!
I can play any role (I prefer mid or jungle) and I know the competitive logistics of each role too, so hopefully if you get a team going I'd be able to contribute something useful.
Sounds good. I'd wager Karl would be down for joining a team as well, so we'd have 3 - just need 2 more spots. In my magical world, I would love to be able to get a team that could handle running a 1-1-1 jungler + roaming ALI (or at least get that in our arsenal). Barring that, I could play any role as needed. Karl tends to jungle primarily - I'm super into jungling now, but Karl's better at it than me (barring jungle ALI anyway ).
I can hold my own with Urgot actually (Though I don't own him)...
I can also jungle Alistar and Lee Sin...
soooo let's see...
My mains (whomever I feel very confident playing/I own (and I do own more than these) ) are
Ziggs (Mid)
Viktor (Mid)
Veigar (Mid)
Ahri (Mid)
Kassadin (Mid)
Xerath (Mid)
Lee Sin (Jungle)
Ezreal (AD Bot)
Rumble (Top)
Cho'Gath (Top)
Volibear (Top)
Warwick (Top)
Irelia (Top)
Poppy (Top)
Alistar (Support/Jungle)
and these are organized according to my experience/preference.
Yeah, I could do the solo urgot bit as well (and I own him), but I'd prefer to do the roaming ali for that 1-1-1 bit. We'll see if that ever happens though... been wanting to at least try it for weeks. Pretty sure we could do alot with several of those mids in an organized team comp.
W/e though - remind me though, what's your player name in LoL... been too long since we played. I'll be on tonight at some point if you are around. No reason we can't duo queue to get you up to 30 at least.
KrdaxDrkrun
I'm not sure that we've ever played together before...
I currently only play during the day Monday-Thursday...
Which probably doesn't work out for you.
I can't play at home right now, but in a few months I'll be able to play whenever...
sooooo
if you can hold on to your dream for a little while, I'll be able to help quite a lot more...
Righto - I play throughout the week; typically between 6PM EST-11PM EST with varied hours on the weekends. You should add me at any rate if you have not already (pacov).
actually if you are playing today, I might catch you shortly - looks like some of us are taking off early for good Friday. I'll prob be on in about an hour. Otherwise, I'm sure I'll catch you sometime.
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