I've locked/archived this thread/blog and have started a new discussion over here: http://forums.demigodthegame.com/454943/
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Am I streaming?
Well, I started a thread back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike. I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc. Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.
Super fast background: I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust. Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me. In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards.
Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:
New Player tips
Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends
pacov's misc info
Here's a guide I made
pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo
k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts. I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so). We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not. Caveat complete.
Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role. You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not). You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2). In my case, I'm good at support and adc. I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops. Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important. If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know... Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it. I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.
Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles. Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby. Say "adc pref." Do this as soon as you hit the lobby. Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it. This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request. If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref." In my experience, you generally do not want to call support. It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible. If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you. If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win. You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.
Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo. If you solo, you have to rely on yourself. IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo. Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good? That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit. The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3. If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect. When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles. Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works. Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles. Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker. For example, Bryff is a good mid. If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered. In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing. Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game. Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support. If you want that, you can usually get it.
How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do. And this is really what I do on a regular basis. I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at. For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads. So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw. I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ). Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI. Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc. Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out. Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself. So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots). If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game. Then, do your best. Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role. And keep in mind what you need to work on. For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth. That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid. The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team. So, best to be ready for it. Put your time in and practice roles.
One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked. 1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want. Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT. 2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support. It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc. I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL. People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.
Lol King profiles for ranked tracking
I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them). Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time.
Snapshot updated 05/28/2014
Character guides
You played 2 with me, 1-1
righto
oh - and our ranked 5's team is silver 1 now. We were promoted the other night.
After duo queuing, I still need more practice as Irelia. I was even with the top game 1, cs and scorewise, but lost tower. Game 2 I was ahead cs but the shen picked up kills in other lanes and I lost tower. I think that when we've been playing in houses and normals, that most of the time I don't get paired with someone that I couldn't beat, but if they did I got stomped pretty badly.
So what I'm saying is, I want to play with people, and I want to practice as Irelia more.
I also think that I need more diversified builds. I need to figure out how I want to build vs champs like kennen, vlad, and shen.
This might be of value to you, bryff - http://www.probuilds.net/champions/Irelia
What I'd do is look and see if its a win or loss. Then look at the build and who they are laned against. There are reasonable odds that if you see someone playing irelia multiple times on that list, that they have a good idea how to counter this or that.
Got plat I! One more step!
Grats, cow! Keep going! Any observations or call outs along your way to Diamond? Competition level, etc? Anything big differences you see?
Holy crap... I had just enough energy to play like a few quick bot games tonight... completely wiped out from this work week and the family visit. My mom/father in law took off tonight... but are coming back in a day or two. Going to have people here until Sunday it looks like. Feel like I really want to take Monday off and just relax.
You should really check out lolsage. It's like lol king for stats, etc... just a heck of alot better. Take a look at all the graphs and views they provide. Here's one from a ranked 5's game the other day:
http://www.lolsage.com/hive/match/na/d1LdHeWFlxgH0yUXIoVlAQP3AQN2ZGL011UXNVboJvnnzvHozliINtN/#shard=seattle
That site is really nice. It seems my best matches have been against Vayne this season lol?
hmmm well I won one match in Plat I tonight and instead of my usual 20-25 lp I got 5.... I think they don't want THAT many people getting into diamond. General Observations:-As far as how Plat has been since I have been into it. I have gotten to play mid most of my games so that is good.-I find that there are very few disconnects.-Most games are fairly even unless there was some miserable play at the beginning of a game that gave some one a huge lead. If that happens its usually a straight up face roll game. -On two separate instances I have played with a diamond/gold diamond/silver duo queue and both times it was almost an instant loss. The skill level of gold and silver players is much worse than plat. -I also find that team comp starts to play a big roll in the games. if you have a strong early game comp vs a strong late game comp and the game goes late even if you have a 10-15 kill lead you will most likely lose.-Disengagey 4 man pushes with a tryn or another split pusher is also very strong way to play. -Usually if a person plays a weird champ like poppy, fiora, Cassiopeia they are good with them. I have been carried by a few poppy's haha-People build smart for there lane opponents, you see alot of seekers/doran shields/merc treads etc... to counter lane opponents
How far are you in plat 1 when you started getting 5 lp? Did you get hit immediately (eg I'm at 0 lp. I won a single game and now am 5 lp) or did you get normal lp for a few games at plat 1 then get hit)?
Anyway, hopefully we can get an in house or ranked 5's going soon.
If ranked is distributed by percentages, the system won't like promoting people into the next division since nobody can get demoted out. For every other game, if you win you go up and the losers go down, so the percentage is the same.
I lost 2 games in a row upon placing into Plat I but my wins before that were like 7/10 so it shouldn't have really effected my MMR much. I think its just the fact that its Plat I and they don't want that many people in it.
and I just woke up after a 6 hour "nap"... cheers
Trying to corral both zen and hunny at the same time is pretty freaking challenging.
Updated our nerd charts - highlight as appropriate
Snapshot updated 9/14/2013
2 wins and 8 to go you mean!
In case you want to see what extremely good play looks like...
That was a fantastic save, but then they go and toss it two for one anyway...
Not just the save, but the entire sequence with split second positioning, reacting to ults... everything. Just incredbily good twitch reflexes.
I learned that apparently it's the solely the jungler's responsibility to ward for top while watching that game. Didn't know that.
Lol worlds start today. Here's a link to the youtube stream - just started about 30 min ago
Been watching for a bit now. Some really good games.
Just played versus two pros from Quantic Gamings team Woong and Locodoco.... my team played a pretty decent early-mid but our team comp was horrible with a quinn/eve so we ended up losing really hard. Here is some info if you are curious who they are. http://www.gamespot.com/news/locodoco-forms-south-korean-team-with-quantic-gaming-to-aim-for-north-american-lcs-6414364
Proper support stats?
Scoreboard
well I have been demoted... lost like 5-6 games in a row to pros, horrible team comps, and team mates disconnecting. Real great experience in Plat I NOT....
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