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Well, I started a thread back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike. I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc. Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.
Super fast background: I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust. Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me. In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards.
Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:
New Player tips
Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends
pacov's misc info
Here's a guide I made
pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo
k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts. I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so). We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not. Caveat complete.
Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role. You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not). You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2). In my case, I'm good at support and adc. I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops. Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important. If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know... Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it. I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.
Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles. Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby. Say "adc pref." Do this as soon as you hit the lobby. Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it. This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request. If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref." In my experience, you generally do not want to call support. It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible. If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you. If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win. You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.
Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo. If you solo, you have to rely on yourself. IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo. Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good? That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit. The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3. If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect. When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles. Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works. Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles. Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker. For example, Bryff is a good mid. If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered. In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing. Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game. Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support. If you want that, you can usually get it.
How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do. And this is really what I do on a regular basis. I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at. For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads. So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw. I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ). Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI. Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc. Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out. Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself. So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots). If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game. Then, do your best. Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role. And keep in mind what you need to work on. For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth. That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid. The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team. So, best to be ready for it. Put your time in and practice roles.
One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked. 1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want. Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT. 2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support. It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc. I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL. People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.
Lol King profiles for ranked tracking
I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them). Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time.
Snapshot updated 05/28/2014
Character guides
Hey pacov. So, I think the mid tower would have died whether you went to it initially or not. They had waves and would have won a dive, since karl and hedge couldn't support. The second tower would have been fine, since hedgie would have been back. After that, if the enemy decided to give blue a go, we could have defended because we would have our bot tower, and I warded it also. Which is why I thought going to our bot, like their adc/support would have been best. We were ahead of them so we would be able to def.
My thoughts.
doh - so karl is 0/1 in his promo series atm. On his 2nd game. still going on.
I'm 1/1 in my promo series. about to play my last promo game. Fingers crossed/
lost 1st promo series 1/2. Played again and immediately back to promo series. won game 1 of promo series. Starting game 2 now
pacov is now gold II. Hunny hit his promo from gold V to gold IV. Playing 1 more then calling it a night.
we lost the last game. Riot servers seemed to have some issues for a little bit. I had like 4-5 seconds of being unable to move (had a potential kill op when that happened too :/). My support complained almost all game of lag issues. Kind of crap, but maybe that was the problem. Anyway, I end the night at 0 lp in gold II. Hunny, sadly, ends the night with 0/1 in his best of 3 promo to gold IV.
oh - and karl kept playing until he hit his promo series again. So, when karl plays ranked next, he's starting his promo series for silver 1. GL KARL!
Honestly, I don't know about that. I think I would have made it there fast enough to keep those jerks off it, but maybe not. I still think I made a big mistake not running to mid based on how things went down. I def feel like I could have had a big impact and kept the tower long enough for hedgie to get back. Once he made it back, that wave clear would have kept the tower up.
Alot of stuff in hindsight crap. I think I can make a really, really good argument that hedgie should have backed when you and I did instead of going for a few cs. He would have been at the tower at the same time I could have potentially been there. And if we are talking about champs that can save towers... well, anvia is stronger than even a fed vayne. I also still think that grabbing blue was a decent call.. but I also COMPLETELY understand that I want the blue on the bird man and I know (as I went over) that they had been countering our blue left and right. What I WANTED to do was what I called out in voice chat - go bot for some farm. If you think for a second that hedgie wasn't annoyed that I went towards bot instead of mid... well... I'd be very surprised. Pretty sure he just held his tongue when he was going to complain about me doing that. And I agree that I should have gone mid. Do correct me if I'm wrong, though.
i was at base when it happened
mid was pretty much gone and i was saying at the end that you should have just gone bot instead.
the problem was that that lost teamfight led to a second lost mid tower (later on, which lead to a later lost inhib tower \: and i died too because of no protection mid with zero toers), as well as a lost outer tower.
You could have easily been able to just farm it out botlane and protected that tower, blue wasn't in any threat. Tanking it and then grouping up for Annie/Shen 4v5 combo was what started the snowball that game.
2 min 5 seconds or so in the vid. "you gave up my mid tower because you wanted blue."
http://www.twitch.tv/1pacov1/c/264620
at the end though... yah - we agree a little more...
the second mid tower yeah?
here's the vod of jungle karma played by diamond.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYpbj0IFt4E
You need to rewind the vid a smidge as it starts immediately after the game ends.
looks like karl is at it again. He's 1/1 in his promo series now. Here's hoping he gets to silver 1 today!
so it looks like there will be co-op vs ai 1v1 and 2v2.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=270751509732182&set=a.144941705646497.31449.144882252319109&type=1&relevant_count=1
@Zodiarc
I started having intermittent crashes right before the loading screen right after installing Logitech gaming software for my G400 mouse I started using, and was wondering if the crashes you were having had BugSplat screens? If you own a Logitech product and are still having issues, this might be of some interest to you.
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3633163
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3571010
They did indeed have bugsplats, I am not using any logitech though.
Okay thanks, that's good to know. Mine don't have bugsplats and are almost definitely Logitech related.
You're still crash free after the last reinstall, right?
karl's got some mofricken tenacity. He lost his promo series again sadly. Playing ranked as I speak to get back to his promo series again.
note for me for later
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=164061093
I now have 2 promotion wins in 13 series. I love the system this season. It is really fun to do stupid crap like making a statistically insignificant number of games be the only criteria for promotion.
Yes it is...
fuck yeah - karl is now silver I. All it took was a shen/ww/ash/trist/leblanc combo. heh. I was saying to myself how I was pretty damn sure you'd be insanely mad if you lost that one. Instead, I now play leblanc support forever as its legit.
Here's several minutes and the end of his game. I spectated a bit and made some commentary for those that are interested
Grats again, Karl!
http://www.twitch.tv/1pacov1/c/2652808
also... this is quite possibly one of the best things I've seen... instantly makes you feel high
literally watch the whole thing
oh boy am I on a bad spree atm in ranked. I had a few legit my team fucked up and I couldn't carry them hard enough games. I game with a dc bastard and my support over compensates to leave me solo vs a shitty ez/leona. vayne doesn't farm out so well solo vs leona unless I'm destroying. I was actually doing pretty well when she decided to stay at mid for like 3 min... so I lost my edge. Anyway, I honestly think I could have carried that one if she didn't pull that crap. I'm cool with a quick roam to help... but 3 min at mid and making it so your adc can't even farm... and let them catch up... horrible idea.
Anyway, then I have a support that doesn't want to support.. yay. Not a huge problem. Anyway, a bit discouraging. Oh and last game I just play like shit as naut. Wanted to shy but team wanted naut... my fault for a bunch of misplays tho. Should have went shy. Their nasus jung was really good about being everywhere a fight was about to go down. Literally countered like every single play.
Thinking about working on my ranked on my days off this week. Haven't really gave it a shot this season, and thought I'd give it a go this thurs/fri. Looking to move up from silver 2... If anybody has an account around there or just wants to duo with me, i'm game... see some of then anyway
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