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Well, I started a thread back in August (https://forums.joeuser.com/411269/) that's seen a lot of activity and actually had quite a few good bits of information for new and old players alike. I figure it's time to start a new thread and perhaps keep the OP up-to-date with useful information, etc. Feel free to use this post for any LoL discussion, etc.
Super fast background: I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust. Back in August 2011 or so, I started getting heavily involved in LoL and folks have been kind enough to chime in with tips and links to various sites that have been quite useful to me. In addition, I've been able to keep up with folks that I've played Demigod with in the past and meet some new folks that play LoL and frequent these message boards.
Here's some of the things I've learned in the previous thread:
New Player tips
Great site I visit every day for LoL related news - http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends
pacov's misc info
Here's a guide I made
pacov's Guide to Improving at League of Legends and Moving Up in Elo
k - so I'm just going to put down some of my thoughts. I'm not amazing at this game, but I do certain things that improve my odds of winning in ranked and so far its panning out just fine (bronze 5 to gold 5 in about a month or so). We all have varied skill levels, so some of this might be useful and some not. Caveat complete.
Prerequisite- you need to know how to play every single role. You don't have to be a god at every single role (more power to you if you are - I'm certainly not). You need to be able to play at a serviceable level in every single role and excel at least at 1 role (preferably 2). In my case, I'm good at support and adc. I'm not great, but have serviceable mids and jungles and so so tops. Knowing what you are good at and bad at is very important. If you don't know, I can probably tell you - but you really should know... Anyway, you need to have enough champs to make solid picks in any role and you need to be able to cover any role if it comes down to it. I'll talk about how to get better at specific roles in a bit.
Champ select advice - Don't be the "fill" guy unless you really feel like you are awesome in all roles. Call your preferred role immediately when you hit the lobby. Say "adc pref." Do this as soon as you hit the lobby. Some people believe that if you call a role you magically get it. This is stupid, but if you call something out, folks will often accomodate your request. If you are feeling wishy washy for whatever reason, call out multiple roles in order of what you want to play - "adc/mid pref." In my experience, you generally do not want to call support. It's a very important role, but you want to be in a position to carry every single game if possible. If you aren't calling out a role, you are hoping that other players can carry you. If you are hoping that folks will carry you, you don't deserve to win. You need to know your best roles and you absolutely should request them.
Solo or duo in ranked? - Well, my 1st thought here is that you should solo. If you solo, you have to rely on yourself. IMO - its a much bigger test of skill to play solo and win than to duo. Do you want someone to carry you or do you really want to know that you are actually good? That said, provided you have the right duo partner, you can increase your odds of winning quite a bit. The simple math is that instead of having 4 teammates as unknown quantities, you only have 3. If you have a good duo teammate, you know what you can expect. When you duo, you get the most bang for your buck by having complimentary roles. Support/adc is good; jungle/mid also works. Even if you don't have direct symmetry in roles, if you are an amazing mid and I'm an amazing adc, our odds go up quite a bit if we both get those roles. Our odds go way down if we can't get those roles and are forced to play out of positions that we are weaker. For example, Bryff is a good mid. If he duo's up with me, the only way he will get to play that role is for me to call mid, take it myself, and then put myself into a position like support where I can't carry out of (I'm always 1st pick, Bryff is always last pick when we duo)... that and I have to show the mid I'm picking at the start which means Bryff gets hard countered. In short, we can expect that we will be a disadvantage when duo queuing. Now, if Bryff queued up with someone at a lower elo than himself that was solid, he'd likely be 1st pick and be able to get mid and have a better chance of carrying the game. Anyway, you need to keep in mind where you end up in pick order when duoing if you aren't looking to go adc/support. If you want that, you can usually get it.
How do you get better in roles that you are not good at? - Well, here's what I do. And this is really what I do on a regular basis. I think about what I'm good at and what I'm not good at. For instance, I realized that I don't play any hyper carry ads. So, I read up on hyper carries like vayne and kog maw. I look for guides on how to build them (most adcs are the same btw ), I look for vids on how people play them (eg how do I all in with a specific champ - is there a combo - when do I all in - what's the best way for me to burst - how should I behave in lane with this champ). Then, I fire up a custom game and try out the mechanics of whatever champ vs AI. Usually I learn a few tricks during that custom on how to position myself, etc. Then, I'm off to normal games where I'll request the role or character I'm trying out. Now, people still report your for being awful in normals, but it really is where you need to try out characters to see if you are any good or not as the bots are useless for proving your skill level to yourself. So, fire up that normal and ask to play a role (again - after you've tried out the champ against bots). If you don't know anyone you are with and you are quite awful, I suggest muting everyone at the start of the game. Then, do your best. Continue with this until you feel like you have a serviceable skill level in whatever role. And keep in mind what you need to work on. For me, I noticed I didn't really have alot of mids for ranked, so I started practicing some with gragas against and karth. That way, I'll be able to get the job done if I need to play mid. The next thing I need to do is put more time into being better top lane. Again, because while I prefer adc/support, I might need to play top for the team. So, best to be ready for it. Put your time in and practice roles.
One last thought - there are certain things you can generally expect in ranked. 1 - if you are 1st pick, you generally can call whatever you want. Common knowledge, I'm sure - but I'll add - CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT. 2 - if you duo queue, you generally can lock down both adc and support. It works best if your adc is 1st pick, ofc. I've bumped into like 10 random dedicated supports in all of my games of LoL. People generally aren't going to call support. So, if you are 1st pick and duo'd, just call adc and then your duo partner can almost always get support.
Lol King profiles for ranked tracking
I'm not going to update this regularly, so just consider it a snapshot (I'll add a date when I update them). Anyway, I enjoy seeing folks progress through ranked and keeping tabs on that sort of thing from time to time.
Snapshot updated 05/28/2014
Character guides
Yeah, she spends plenty of nights away with her BF so that shouldn't be an issue. I'll definitely be able to do that for testing purposes, but I even switched routers yesterday and couldn't get things to work any better.
Thanks for all the suggestions and input.
gl bro!
LoL will be down for an estimated 6 hours in about 40 minutes. (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=34098624#post34098624)
Add me on Steam, and I'll play other games with people later today. If not, I'll just be my usual lonely self
[CPPFZ]KrdaxDrkrun
Also, I resolved the mouse issue for the time being, still trying to get used to my lovely new wrist-hurting mouse...
I've gotten so used to trackballs that my wrist is in agony...
raaaaaaaaaaaaah
jebus
happy page 100
dax... I think you have some pretty big problems with telling time.
"At 02:00 PST, the servers will be shut down and all games currently in progress will end in a draw and stats will not be recorded. We estimate the Fields of Justice will be unavailable for 6 hours." I don't think that's 2pm. That's 2AM.
also - thunder - see this. Post is from today:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3064661
hahahaha
I do have wonderful issues...
Master Yi
Muahahaha finally!
http://www.twitch.tv/1pacov1
team in house games live now
Should probably take roles people play into account from now on. Sticking me in the jungle all willy nilly is a sure fire way to have a bad time.
Yeah I checked out that link and it looked slightly promising, though it almost sounded like a more recent short term issue that they were having. I checked back to see if there were any updates, but the post had completely disappeared.
I'm thinking that if any Rioter openly admits that their servers had anything to do with lag, then they are consequently lined up against a wall and shot while all evidence of the incident is erased.
hopefully not much need to go on about this, but dax ran his mouth a little in a game where we were obviously winning pretty hard. I addressed him talking in all chat immediately to end that and apologized to the other team and to cow personally. I think it goes without saying going forward - but if we kill like 3 people when we are already up like 8 kills or w/e, "hahahah" in all chat is not good. Dax apologized and didn't mean anything by it... and realizes it was inappropriate. Anyway, best I can do is to address stuff like that immediately. Hopefully no hard feelings. Thanks for all the games tonight.
Karl had like a super pro game jungling in 1 of them. I was really impressed. Without him, I think xel and I would have steamrolled bot based on how we were doing. With him, we were shut down pretty hard. Very well done.
I probably should have played WW in that last game. I think that FU WW ganks are about the only way I was going to be able to do much when wallstop pairs with somebody who has been playing professionally in the last month. They just dominated me every time I tried to gank, and karth ults didn't help. Our bot lane did about as well as could be expected, but there wasn't much I could add, so it didn't go too well.
poor pacov considered you a "jack" (huehuehue - eat my terrible pun) of all trades. So, yeah - I thought you were the best option on the team and didn't realize that I was setting you up. Completely agree re: trying to make sure we have 1 decent jungler per team. Much more fun for everyone. Hopefully I can remember going forward...
random side note - I saw a montage yesterday of ADC thresh. I also noticed that there were absolutely 0 instances of a team fight in that montage... going back to my ad thresh is a POS in teamfights late game thought. pacov still considers adc thresh a terrible, terrible idea. Certainly fun early/mid, though. Only "OK" if all of your lanes steamroll.
So, the new ranked system should be live today. I'm probably going to dive right in. I'm curious what we will see when we look at people who join our games, etc, now. Or if elo will still be viewable in things like lol king. No idea.
Hopefully the nerfs will be a step in the right direction. I honestly think they didn't do any major damage to AP yi with the meditate nerf. All they did was reduce some of his mid/late game cheese and actually buffed his already near godlike early game laning giving him even more health regen via meditate.
I didn't catch how much they nerfed giants belt. I feel like they should increase its cost and reduce the health gained from it. I think they just reduced the health, but don't remember.
Anyway, thanks again for all the games last night. Very fun.
I picked up Jax last night.. and Taric the other day. I imagine I'll keep picking them up as the sales happen.
(too bad the pink leg warmers aren't standard issue...)
Also grabbed all of the runes that I can use at the moment...well, from an ADC standpoint at least - as much as I know about it anyway.
Switched over to Smartcast. I hadn't been using it at all. What a difference. I'm sure it might have been in a newbie guide or post somewhere and I ignored it but I don't know why it's not "advertised" more.
Also have two others into the game. We've been playing blind picks for the past week and having a lot of fun - and success. You definitely get a crap shoot with random, blind picks (facepalm) but when you go in with 3 on Skype it takes the edge off. I usually go Caitlyn with my buddy playing Nunu on bottom - then our other friend goes mid with someone he can sustain and hold his own with. No jungler in our games (if we are lucky) and once we have laned for a bit and after we have pushed our pair off to base we get a gank or 2 in to help mid. The game is so much fun I just need 2 more at our skill level to roll with. Would be so much better.
Out of curiosity - have you guys played HoN? I really have no interest as there is so much to do with LoL but I saw an ad the other day and looked at their page. Just wondering how similar the two games are.
Did - didn't really dig it. I went from Demigod, to HoN, to LoL, back to Demigod, and then back to LoL. LoL hooked me. HoN never did.
Yah - it make a huge difference. Some of the pros actually don't use it (some do ofc). I like it though.
You know what I find really, really, really funny? This vid
Director: "k guys. I need you to walk for about 2 minutes. Then, when I say go, you need to run. If you get into it, go ahead and jump around corners and stuff. Ocelot - make sure you wear your scarf. We think it will look great while you run. I still haven't decided if we'll have it fall off while you run or not, though."
Hotshottgg: "so, why are we running?"
Director: "stfu and run."
pacov: "Wangchuck."
Bravo season 3 launch video. Bravo.
also - huge queue time right now... Might be a good idea to patch and start logging in when you get a chance in case it persists.
Here's the origin of Wangchuck btw.
Well, those kids are nowhere near where they needed to be.
They probably should've gone in through the front entrance.. but I suppose the parking lot dictates that a bit.
I apologized to nades afterwards (that was who the laugh was for...) it was just absurd how he went from 100% to 33% after one of your ults...
It was one of those moments where you suddenly realize that what you had just said was better left unsaid because in the current context it seems far worse than intended.
and for that, I am sorry.
I am rather impulsive when it comes to chat messages, and I type before I think.
-EDIT-
I also killed nades while he was AFK...
I think it should be a house rule that upon noticing an AFK player, the person who noticed it should pause immediately. I felt bad about that one too...
well, that one is a little tricky and harder to make a rule about. If a guy is clearly afk for like 20 sec, then sure its best to pause it if the enemy team is unaware. If we are talking a few seconds, a guy could actually be trying to set something up. I don't know that folks do that crap often, but I try to bait things like that in top lane from time to time. Anyway, if you really think someone is afk, then yeah - we should pause the game. If you aren't sure (eg guy stands in same place for like 3-4 seconds total), then I'd likely go for a kill. Still really hard to make a rule other than if you think someone is afk - pause if you can do so quickly. If we get into a situation where someone starts faking afk a bit (eg what you should do from time to time as wukong for instance), then we'd revisit the concept.
Also - pacov is a moody fuck tonight. Sorry for my general bitchiness. Night all.
Man, I forgot how tough solo queue could be. I went 3-2 in my first 5 ranked games, but my mids just wouldn't stop getting crushed. 4 out of 5 games their mids just destroyed our mids. This included a 9-1 ryze and a 14-2 yi (plus a Kass that started 6-0). As a jungler, I really really dont like it when our mid feeds their mid early.
My first game I wasn't able to jungle because a Shaco demanded it and took Revive and then the ADC I supporting was asking questions like "Does frost shot stack with red buff". Luckily, both their bots were terrible, so we were able to win that one.
Fortify on Shen. I did some serious bait jobs back then, got myself a quad with the splash damage tower occasionally.
Helloooooooooooo. Some of you may have noticed I haven't played in a while. That usually means I'm playing some other game. Here's my plug.
Wished D3 was better? Don't like buying games (like FtP models like LoL)? Want to create weird builds that work, like a warrior shooting shit with wands instead of sword / board? Want a large community? Endgame, pvp, this game is awesome, no gold for gold farmers, materia system from FFVII, skill path from FFX that 1300+ nodes, etc?Try out Path of Exile. Pretty fun. Open beta just started this week and has more players than D3. http://www.pathofexile.com/
that one was on my radar - didn't know it hit open beta. Going to give it a look today - pacov in game.
it's a pretty fun game. Played for about an hour and then was kicked off the server (maintenance maybe?). Anyway, done for now. Tried out the witch. I think it will be a really fun game though.
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