Skyrim's street date has been broken in Australia by a solid 10 hours, however - because Steam owns PC Gaming - it can't be installed until midnight. So, until then, I get to stare at my legally purchased, worthless piece of plastic that amounts to little more than a Steam Activation code. DRM's a real bitch.
Doesn't change the fact that I'm still very, very excited - enough so to buy it regardless of the Steam bullshit it's shackled to. Anyone else pumped for what has the potential to be Game of the Year?
Not everyone likes pirate humor.
@GoaFan77,
The Total War games have a history of working terrible with steam. That series just keeps getting buggier and less playable. I think you may have to purchase their expansion, Napoleonic Wars, to get a good smooth gaming experience. Of course it will still freeze every hour or so and don't even try multiplayer. Not a great example of how bad steam is, unless you count how unwilling some companies are to fix their game even when they have a resource like steam to distribute. Steam is good for what it is. Impulse is the devil. I see impulse complaints leaking into every corner of the internet. Gamestop really went for the FUBAR on that one.
booosh - methinks its time to go to bed...
Older ladies in skyrim are fairly hardy. Just sayin
After buying it (shut up!) and 1.2 hours into it. My opinions, ectect. Don't like em, well, guess I'll have change them to fit yours.
After paying $60 for a game, it crashed after logo. I had to change my audio-channel frequencies so it would work. Hurray 2011 PC gaming!
Beginning is..kind of bad. It was neat for a little bit, than I as remarking at every damn thing I saw. You are told how to move mouse. Fuck you game, I have a brain. Than 20 minutes roll by, and I still am not allowed to move. When my head is put onto the butcher plate, it temporarily clips into it. Animations stop and play. Some voices are stopped immediately.
Beginning is way. Too. Long. And, best of all it doesn't give you an option to remake your character. Well, doesn't matter much anyway. You customize your look and that's it. No skills, no traits. Maybe you do that later.
I chose expert mode - am promptly killed everything without nearing 50% life. I double checked, yes it's expert mode. ffs. Expert mode. Being a kaijet I jumped around in third person around a bandit camp. I than ran away. For being in expert mode, I didn't feel in any danger. Maybe it gets harder.
Another game that takes control of FOV. Skyrims isn't terrible (above 70, at least) but give us a slider please. tilde "fov ##" but it resets on fast travel. Better than nothing.
Very pretty - it has some great views. It won't win any awards, but I could live without texture packs.
Animations are improved a bit, but still severely lacking compared to most games.
Finishing moves - hilariously bad. "Hey, some AAA game it, we gotta too!"
Being shot at with bows is cool. They're weak, but feels like I'm being shot at with arrows.
Regenerating health. Thank god for (future) mods.
UI is..weird. It isn't bad, but I don't feel like i have precision over what I'm clicking.
Dragging bodies .. my god they go rigid fast.
Combat is a little better from oblivion, but still very boring.
I like the little job stations around the area - adds some depth.
Mouse Smoothing. Thank god you can disable it.
Bouncing fps. But being a sandbox, it's hard to control that I guess.
Still easy to get stuck. In the beginning I got stuck on rocks (admittedly trying to find glitches..) and could not get out. FFS, bethesda. This has been a problem for how long? You are a AAA studio, how have you not fixed this.
I walked into a cart. It went sailing. This is not a problem of graphical or computer limits.
Voices (not far into it though) are much better than oblivion.
Harvesting has visual changes - very nice.
Leveling up, oh joy. We get to be master of all trades. I hope to god a mod changes this.
Alt-tabbing did not let me back in. At least it closed quickly.
Overall I'll definitely get my $60 from it, especially if Bethesda releases proper mod tools.
And lastly (probably the thing that made me buy it)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K27GuSSha0s&feature=player_embedded
edit: I used god more times in this post than in the bible. Must improve writing skills..
I warned you guys ahead of time over the control issues. I also put up fixes in the other page. On a side note: Skyrim, quietly, went 1.1 before the game was launched in NA. Take that for what it's worth.
Ok, just dropped three hours in this. First, some technical stuff.
I installed last night at midnight, and tested performance. The performance at the start isn't really indicative of performance for the rest of the game - not sure what it is about that starting area, but it kills performance. I'm running a 2.4ghz Quad Core, 4GB DDR2 RAM, ATI Radeon 5750 1GB on a 250GB 7,500RPM HD, and at the highest settings I was pulling around 10FPS in the start area.I changed my settings to High, and messed with the draw distance stuff. I set all my draw distances to equal that of the Grass' largest distance - 7 - and set my FXAA on, turned off AA, and set my AF to 16 Samples, as well as tweaking V-Sync and Mouse Acce off. I got a smooth 30FPS. Once out in the game world proper, the FPS darts between 25-40FPS, while inside it's constant 60FPS all the way, no questions asked. Even at High, this is leagues ahead of Oblivion.
The UI is, frankly, the worst piece of shit I've ever had the misfortune of using. Changing keys doesn't change the key the UI tells you to use for stuff. So, you have to remember "Shit, I re-bound that key". ESC opens the System Menu - and never cancels out of anything, which feels a bit weird. It's not user friendly, and not intuitive at all. And the 3D Map feels very low quality compared to some of the map mods we saw for Oblivion.Mouse Control, however, is my biggest issue with the game. Mouse Sensativity is a single slider - meaning you can't alter X and Y sensativity. Y is also tied to your FPS in some strange way while X is not - so, while your outside, looking up and down is slower than looking left to right. This disappears inside, but it's annoying as fuck. It's so horribly implemented that it's clear Bethesda had no real intention of the PC Version comparing to the console version. However, as always, the Modding Community is going to make this shit fucking shine.
After all that - which is purely technical stuff - Skyrim as a game is a wonder. An absolute wonder. The beginning is the weakest moment. Once the reigns come off, Skyrim just screams "GOTY". For fans of Morrowind, Skyrim delivers the best RPG experience on the market. Period. The world feels real, as if it could actually exist, and is just a blast to live in. The almost cartoon elements from Oblivion are gone entirely, and replaced with dirt, blood and grit. It's Fallout 3 meets Morrowind - in the best way possible. The finish moves have all played out in first person for me, and feel pretty solid. I've seen three so far - so, once an hour. They're not as bad as we've seen in some of the videos - they don't break the immersion at all.Bethesda have clearly listened to all of the complaints levelled against their previous games. Animation, voice acting, puzzles, combat - it's all been improved. The new stat system just leaves the old ones for dead. It's not just easier to understand and wield, it's also far more powerful. Instead of building your character at the start of the game, you build them by simply playing the game. It's the ultimate realisation of the Elder Scroll's trade mark system. The perks are excellent as well - and really promote focus. Still, it's flexible - I can put my Perk point into a skill I haven't levelled yet, or put them all in one skill and come really good at one thing very quickly. As an Elder Scroll's nut, trust me: it's excellent.
Some of the classic shit is still in here - animations are kind of weak, sliding NPCs still occur, bumping items sends them flying, clipping is till present - but it's basically better across the board. Voice acting, visual style, writing, design; it's what you'd want. Hopefully, we see some of these technical bugs ironed out in patches.
It's hard to call it so far; 3 hours isn't close to being a sliver of enough information to judge a world this vast. However, if Bethesda can keep up this level of quality for the rest of the game, Skyrim is easily the best Elder Scroll's game, and a real contender for the best RPG out there.
I'm still in Red ORchestra 2 mode...
Can I ask about skyrim:
a) Can you fight from horseback?
Is it Multiplayer?
c) Does anybody travel in real unit sizes or is it just the super party?
d) Is it every man for himself or is this RPG different to the rest?
My stream of consciousness thoughts after about 10 hours of play yesterday. For the record I play on a high end custom built PC with all drivers updated. No spoilers below unless you didn't know there were dragons in the game. FYI, there are dragons in the game.
There's a TLDR at the bottom.
Graphical/Technical Stuff:
UI:
Gameplay:
TLDR:
In summary:
This will likely only make sense to longtime TES fans, but Skyrim is more Morrowind than Oblivion FWIW.
Didn't proofread this monstrosity so forgive the typos.
Thanks Kantok. Lots of good info. I will probably buy this game soon.
Too many too people wine, complain, and bitch over this game. Use the tweaks on the control issues. You should be fine. Game also boasts new technology. There is no reason to stick everything on jack fucking high graphics wise when none of the drivers have been optimized for the Creation engine yet.
Seriously? If it had it, you would of heard about it well ahead of time. TES is built as a single player rpg. Any multiplayer will be either as an MMO or tacked on, but unrelated to the core game like ME3's.
Quick first impressions - one, everything has run 60fps on my pc from the start. Riding in the cart down the hill, I just noticed that everything is super gray... and I'm like... this kind of looks like crap. As we get further down the hill, all the crazy lighting kicks in and they scrape a bit of the "all grey" off of their color palette. Anyway, I'm enjoying it.
I'm playing on a pc with max settings using a 360 joystick... using this, the ui at least makes a little more sense, but I'm a bit on the same page as most. Not exactly great. Still, fun game.
One other thing of note. Nearly every dungeon I've been in has some sort of quick way out once you get to the end. I hated spending an hour or more wandering a dungeon in Oblivion and then having to spend 8 or 10 minutes backtracking to get out.
In Skyrim they build in clever one way passages to get back near the beginning from the end. Doors that only open from one side via switch, passages at the end that lead to tunnels that are unreachable on your way in, etc. It's one of those really nice little things. You're back out and exploring 60 or 90 seconds after clearing a dungeon.
Oh, and the world map keeps track of which dungeons you've cleared. Also very nice. The UI is well designed overall. The controls for it are just console optimized.
For the record most of the bigger dungeons in Oblivion had that too, but they probably just made it common practice now.
There, all fixed.
There were some real rat nests in Oblivion...
I'm stuck and need help. Is there any way to play Skyrim, once its installed, without having steam on? (the internet connection off?) Installed skyrim from CD.
Also, when I turn steam on, internet connection OK, Skyrim doesn't show any of my saved games, and will only let me start a new game. I have, like, 7 or 8 saves in there. HELP PLEASE.... steam is new to me and seems like a pain....
You should be able to start steam, go to "Steam" -> "Go Offline". Then you don't have to be online. You'll have to be online for a moment to do the "Go Offline" section, but afterwards you can stay offline as long as you'd like.
Thanks... how about where did my save games go? Appreciate it.... and use alt tab to get off steam so i can shut down the web connection?
You're save games should be in Documents/My Games/Skyrim/Saves, not solely in the cloud (although steam does it's save backup thing in the cloud).
Made it a bit further day... really should have played more than I did, though - took the day off work and all. Anyway, still enjoying. So much stuff to do.
@KAntok yes, i saw the saves there as files... but i cna't get the skyrim engine/program to acknowledge them... the 'saves' option is greyed out, and does not respond to me. Is this becuase I installed the game on my D drive to advoid all the win 7 permissions hassles? Anyway, thansk for help... steam was driving me crazy - it still does...)..
I'm not sure where that's coming from. Are you playing under the same user you installed Skyrim as? Either way you could try running Skyrim as administrator. Not sure it'll do anything, but should help if it is a permission issue.
If that doesn't work I'll try messing around with my save games and see if I can replicate you're problem and figure out a fix. Let me know. Until them, back to Tamriel.
Against better judgment, I installed Skyrim today on a PC that is below system requirements. Initially, I was hopeful, since the game recommended medium settings, and the options in the launcher were almost identical to the ones used by F3 and New Vegas. Sadly, the game gets as far as the Bethesda logo, after that, the Skyrim sigil shows up and it just hangs there, forever, not loading until the end of time, using about 90mb of ram and 99% of a poor singlecore processor.
Aw... sad to hear that. Even worse that you made it so far only not to be able to play it
I'm finding that I am soooo easily side tracked in the game. I'm spending way too much time trying to pickpocket everyone, lockpick everything, loot and sell everything, train everything, and so on. Killed off the first dragon and learned my first shout... and then I went back to doing the same old stuff. Mayhaps I'll focus on quests. I'm mostly playing lol and skyrim now. I like skyrim in that I can just hop on, even if I only have 10 minutes or so and get some leveling done, etc.
I wonder if the pc and 360 controller mappings are the same... I use a 360 joystick on the pc and the controls just don't even feel remotely optimized imo... mayhaps I'll look into that. You have to press B to pull up the little menu.... I'd think you could do that using the analog control, but its not setup that way for me.
I'm very surprised at how bad the map is, both the 3d map (can't see anything) and the black sketch (can't see shit).
The world is very pretty, I really wish we could get this sort of attention to a world in an mmo
The game is supposedly selling extremely well: http://www.vgchartz.com/article/88459/skyrim-sales-exceed-34-million-units-in-two-days/
This game really needs a quad core. It uses all of them from what I've seen.
yeah - I'm really not a fan of how they choose to do the maps as well.
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