Well everything you say is negative also, I made one for advent why wouldent I give one for the other races as well?

Im not biased I even made the advent not overpowered because I have played alot of RTS's in my life alot of the time the most badass ideas are the most overpowered see Yuri from Red Alert 2: YR.

And I suppose do keep in mind though these ships are modifications of the Colonizer ships so they will have some similarities but not to many. I wanted to diversify the opening that you could have while keeping the game and its core mechanics the same. (sidenote I was thinking of giving the Genesis a new effect for Colonize seeing as how I wouldn't want them all to be identical!

Naeve Class Battlecruiser - TEC

Colonize - Sends supplies and personnel down to the surface of the planet to create a new outpost. For a brief time, all income from this planet will be 0.00 (Basically making it so you don't lose any money until from the planets taxes as they would normally be in the red upon colonizing)

Emergence - Increases shield regeneration of the ships around the Naeve Battlecruiser as well as an increase in movement speed.

Trade Lines - Your culture is automatically spread upon all phase lines that have trade/refinery ships running between them. In addition upon losing a trade port/orbital refinery where culture has connected between planets you gain 50%/75%/100% of the cost back.

Sons We Hardly Know - Upon activation all building will produce ships cheaper(25%) and faster(50%), and all defense's  that are being built in the same gravity well as the Naeve are produced(50%) faster

Kasima Class Evacuator - Vasari

Colonize - Sends supplies and personnel down to the surface of the planet to create a new outpost. For a brief time, any ships leaving this planets phase space will receive no penalty in antimatter for leaving.

Probe - Leaves behind an invisible probe to scout a system for 30/60/120 seconds

Enslave - Any planet being attacked by the Kasima takes increased .10/.20/.30 allegiance damage stacks up to 10 times for a total of 1%/2%/3% every few seconds.

Relinquish - This ability can be used upon any Metal/Crystal/Trade Port extractor in a neutral planet zone(i.e: after the planet has either been cleansed or revolted against) allowing the Evacuator to take control of it permanently.

Genesis Class Mothership - Advent

Colonize - Sends supplies and personnel down to the surface of the planet to create a new outpost. For a brief time, buildings at this planet can be purchased more cheaply.

Manipulation - Targeting an enemy planet it manipulates the planets populous causing it to spread culture at a slow rate. Also causes any trade/refinery ships to deliver there goods to the nearest advent system. And turns off any phase jump inhibitors in the system for a short time.

Regenerative Telekinesis - Telepath's aboard the mothership passively repair ships hulls around them for .25%/.50%/.75% hp per second.

Exodus - Any Advent ships nearby the Genesis Class Mothership that are below 10% health are automatically destroyed transferring the spirit of there crews back to an advent controlled planet this gives a return of 100% of how much that ship cost back to the player.

Perhaps this sort of thing would be best suited for the Modding area.

Well, there are supposed new capital ships in Rebellion.  However, it's unknown whether they're already finalized or not.  Still, always cool to brainstorm ideas and hope the developers pay attention when cool stuff gets brought up on the forums. 

Heck, I'll link to the ones I posted a few months back: https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/405949/page/3/#2900110

I tend to play Advent if just for the fact that maxing out their capital ships alone is enough to fend off the vasari swarm or crush TEC; albiet, you usually require other than capital ships before that because of the tech tree requirements, never the less, I'm just saying why I love Advent. . . You just need to hold off enough until you are ultimately ultimate.

With that said, I must protest your Vasari Evacuator and TEC battlecruiser. they both absolutely suck... and that Advent Mothership is ridiculously overpowered.

It will single handedly solve 100%, and then some, the economy of the Advent at level 6, being drastically more powerful than Pervasive economy.

It's synergy with The Progenitor is -too great-. A Ship  that provides percentage based hull healing with a ship that provides the fastest regeneration of any kind in the game (Progenitor of course). On top of this, we already have the tactic to holding about 10-20 Domina's behind to stare at your fleet to provide everybody a happy unlimited never-ending 20hull/s regeneration (there's a reason the ability is called perseverance. . . it lasts for-freaking-ever, whereas Hoshikos tire quickly).

And then a beefed up version of the ability that is the reason the Sova carrier is the single best capital, among all races, to start with. I'm not saying it's a reason to go TEC instead of advent, but no one can deny it's the best starter capital.

800 supply worth of whatever Advent capital ships you have will probably be very very quickly melted by an equal supply worth of Assailants or bombers with PM.

Which is one reason why I'm confused at why Darvin would play 16-Advent-caps in multiplayer (unless there were no Vasari enemies anywhere).

Yes, that is correct. I never said it could win versus Vasari in neutral or hostile grounds, but Advent capitals alone are more than enough to keep them from continuing past a chokepoint.... preferably a starbased asteroids with inhibitor and disorientation. Against TEC, I am sure everyone's seen this in multiplayer: The Advent that the enemy left alone for too long. He was so bored that all he made was caps. You know that fleet? Yeah, it steamrolls TEC.

Well im just glad my ideas didn't get to shot down
But does anyone else agree there should be different ways of assimilating planets(Aside from the slow culture push)

I feel as though killing civilians isn't exactly what the TEC/Advent are all about. And the Vasari prefer to enslave.

Considering no one really cares what you think.

If you don't care what people who you ask think, then why do you ask? You asked. I answered. You don't like it, well, tough. To be brutally honest, I don't really care what you think, either, but at least I have the decency to take what is said to me into consideration before I open my mouth.

You're just sore because I shot down your idea, aren't you?

Oh by the way, 4 people seem to care what I think.

I agree that culture spamming isn't fun. I also think it is tiotal BS and a total waste of time, as I've disabled it vs. the AI.

Maybe I should say it this way and not be overly simplistic; I just don't see how the devs can implement alternate methods of capturing/losing a planet without an engine rewrite, which they have said on multiple occasion in multiple threads that they are not going to do. I wish they would, just to add some variety. I also wish they'd add more planet types and planet bonuses, and completely rework the LRF situation, switch over to a dual-core engine so we don't hit the 2-gig wall everytime, and maybe, just maybe, balance out the factions just a little better. As it stands, I'm willing to bet that none of those things are going to happen, and your post here falls under that last category.

See my point now?

I was trying to avoid rambling, which I tend to do when I try to explain something, but here we are in the present.

Is that better?

Regards to nuking a planet;

Yeah, it's not something most humans would want, especially if they're going to be living on it afterwards.  However, there are some very serious implications to planetary conquest, especially in the Sins universe.

The most noticeable is that conquering a city requires enormous amounts of power and numbers, nevermind a country, or furthermore an entire planet.  Even Lucas said that he kind of chickened out with the immeasurable amount of resources required for planetary conquest in Star Wars.  You would need millions upon millions, if not billions to be able to conquer a planet and hold it.  This is one of the things GalCiv did right, and that was transport ships had billions of soldiers in them.

This presents a problem for any civilization that just doesn't have a hundred billion citizens that can support and maintain a conquest strategy on a conventional scale.  The time and effort spent would be an undertaking comparable with that of the entire history of human civilization.

Even in Sins, the technology is just not there for that kid of conquest.  The military forces of all of the factions are primarily naval based, with the vast majority of personnel being either shipmates or support.  The type of warfare that takes place in Sins is primarily naval engagements between starships, and with the huge amount of vessels that populate their galaxy, most bodies are dedicated for ship-to-ship combat and the support elements behind that type of warfare.  This is further seen in how planetary conquest is conducted in sins (nuking a planet)- the side with the strongest and largest fleet of starships wins.  There is virtually no army that we know of other than marine and planetary police forces.  And those hardly, if ever play a role in the war doctrines of Sins.

Even for the Advent, it would be otherwise impossible without tarnishing their own morals with that of planetary genocide.  Converting even a majority of the population presents you with the same problem- you still have to win the battle on the ground against those that won't convert.  This can take a hundred years for a country, it mostly likely will never cease with an entire planet, especially considering the elements that come with insurgency and renewed rebellions.  The only way to ensure prolonged conquest or dominance is replacing the population in its entirety, as the inescapable formula of eventuality will eventually bring your attempt at a more humane conquest crumbling down.  Something history is most capable of proving time and again.

And for the other factions, its about available resources.  They can barely field fleets to maintain a stalemate, they have a hard enough time keeping a capital ship from getting destroyed.  If they could even manage to build a large enough invasion force, it might as well be turned defensive as the time, manpower, and raw material required to muster a necessary element would have rendered that faction vulnerable to the enemy who have spent the entire time building capital ships and nukes.  In a matter of seconds, that invasion force you've spent decades building up is gone under the rain of nuclear holocaust.

Thus, the only realistically achievable method of conquering a planet is similar to what we see in ancient human history.  Complete annihilation of the indigenous population and the expensive, long-winded, and entirely vulnerable recolonization that follows from the victors.  It doesn't have to be nuclear, but if any of the factions had a population and economy that could afford 1, 2, 3, 4 or however many billion standing armies supported by even larger numbers in the navies, then Sins of Solar Empire would be an entirely different game.  This is why planetary conquest is the most dangerous game a military can play in conventional methods.  The bureaucratic establishments that would need to be in place to support a system or galaxy-wide strategy would be on par with the size of the 40k or Star Wars Universe, and in 40k planets are never fully conquered even with their billions of casualties per world, and in Star Wars the consequences and strategies are very rarely touched upon (to which Lucas even admits the almost unimaginable scale of it).