This thing that some of you do, calling the President something other than his given name is pretty cheesy. His name is Barrack Hussein Obama, not Barry or zer0bama or anything else. You may not like him, hell you can even hate him, I sure hated Bush but I didn't play childish games with his name, it's so grammar school. The Beatles once sang, the love you get is equal to the love you give. Take the love away and use respect and you can see why it is difficult to give anyone respect when they are unable to show respect. You're not disrespecting the man you're disrespecting the office. The office of the President of the United States of America, the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, the man with his finger on the trigger.

As I said before we are divided and I don't see it changing because you and your type care more about bringing down Obama than what is good for the country. Please don't let facts stand in your way.

vstyler isn't an American either! He says he's been here for 25 years so why isn't he a citizen yet? What's preventing him from becoming a citizen if he loves this place so much?

The President is Commander and Chief so it is he who gets the credit. It goes with the job. If the operation had failed you'd have been on his ass like flies on shit much like when Jimmy Carter failed to free the hostages in Iran. In a similar vein at least Obama didn't play the drama queen card and fly in on an air craft carrier with a bogus "Mission Accomplished Banner" banner behind him. Hell, the mission wasn't accomplished at that time anyway.

Bush bragged how he was gonna do it but Bush failed and instead launched a war on Iraq. The war was not only based on lies, muck like the invasion of Poland was back in 1939, but was ill conceived. Exactly how do you pay for a war while at the same time reducing taxes? That was alright with Bush and Cheney though because there is a lot of profit for Halliburton there. Lots of profits for a group of American companies. Think of all the money spent to first destroy the Iraqi infrastructure and then re build it? Wouldn't that money have been better off spent here?

Barack Obama's policies stopped the economic meltdown. He said when he got into office that it would take at least 5 years to turn the economy around. Fact: From Aug 2008 to Jan 2009 there were 3,175,000 lost. All lost under the Bush administration. Yeah. You got some magic to get those jobs back? Until this summer there was actually some real progress being made but then the tea baggers in Congress decided to try and make the government default. Real Patriots those tea baggers. It takes brains to let a nut job like Grover Norquist take over your decision making process

600,000 people in the first quarter of 2011 now have health insurance as a direct result of Obama Care. They would have been uninsured otherwise.

Repel of Don't Ask, Don't Tell. I applaud it.

The financial reform bill. Far from perfect but a way to help protect consumers and investors from the banksters and wall street jackals.

The American Jobs Act. This will help to put people back to work and rebuild the infrastructure. The problem is getting it past the republicons who care more about getting Obama out of there than helping the middle class.

Just watch this:

For those who buy into the "Koch Brothers Conspiracy".......suggested reading LINK

Then consider if the word "sheeple" applies.

Well, Gladiator was a great movie

If it was up to some folks, we would ALL be one big middle class, driving the same cars, living in 2.5 kid semi-detached homes and watching govt sponsored television.

THAT.. ain't my vision of America.

.. and the entire premise, is FLAWED.

It..... does..... not.... work... it will... never work.

it has been tried and tried, over and over, in many countries, over many many years...

It..... does..... not.... work.

So if some people get ripped off, if some people have to be poor so ALL of us have a chance, thru HARD WORK, to make BETTER than middle class lives for ourselves, then so be it. There will always be greed, there will always be poverty.

Maybe I just have more ambition than others. Maybe you don't understand my dream of something better than mediocrity.

There is true poverty, those forgotten elements of society, that truly need the help of others, that cannot, through no fault of their own, fend for themselves.

If not cured, that can be eased, and I am not opposed to that, whatsoever.

Then there is the poor, lazy, entitled, whining, gimme gimme gimme element..growing more by the second.  That would rather get a check, than a job. Bag them all up and throw them off a bridge for all I care.

This President has not empowered them to do something with their lives, or motivated them to lift themselves up. He doesn't want that, if that happened, it would be contrary to everything he believes.

They want people reliant on their Govt.

To me, that is not America, as I want to see it.

Interesting Dave, for me, its the Admin, doing their best to look like they are doing something, (photo-op \ news coverage) while knowing full well, nothing will get done.

Their strategy now, as they have no record to stand on, is to make the GOP look like they are stopping job creation by proposing bills that are unlikely to pass.

'Every federal secretary and agency chief has been assigned to examine what the administration can do to accelerate job growth over the next several months'

Simple, roll back Obama-care.. INSTANT job creation.

I have to ask, if they wanted people working, why has this kind of stuff, taken 3 years to even get started?

They will look as if they are giving it the ol' college try, while in campaign mode, then, if by some quirky twist of fate, or.. election fraud, and they are re-elected... Jobs will be be right back on the back burner.

tsk tsk

You wanted facts so I gave you a whole bunch. Yes Bush. He caused it and those are the facts. Facts facts facts.

So 600,00 people who would not have health care if not for Obama Care are chopped liver? Think about it. Think about the fact that you need to have people to process the forms for 600,000 people and nurses and doctors and the drug stores selling prescriptions to 600,000 people. That's good for the economy and that's good for those peoples health. That is a fact.

My wife moved to a small town in Iowa from Ill. when she was a teenager. The people in that town never accepted my wife's family. In fact she was told that people who had lived there for 30 years were thought of as outsiders. To me you are an outsider.

"My type" huh? Born on the south side of Chicago in the 50's. Ike was my president. At night I could hear the trains going by a block away. Further south a couple miles away the never ending sounds of factories. In 59 I remember when Mayor Daley had them turn on the air raid sirens when The White Sox won the pennant. Most of the families living in my neighborhood were either Polish, Italian or Irish. The Moms were home with the kids and the Dads worked. Most of the Dads worked at Union shops. Life was good. On Memorial Day, 4th of July and Labor Day every house sported an American flag. The next day the flag was gone. Not like now when the flags are everywhere and are left out day and night. Back then it was very special to put out the flag. I am an all American boy. That's my "type".

I cited their record. Did you not read the "facts"? Plenty of "facts". You say unlikely to pass? After 2010 when the Tea Party took control of the house nothing gets passed. There is no compromise. Slaves of Grover Norquist. That's also a fact. What's up with that? Explain that.

I posted, what I thought were a lot of points in defense of Obama but I don't see much in the way of rebuttal to them. Point by point. All I see is the same old republicon bitching about lazy people and socialists. Talk about tired old lame ass nothing.

So does the economy, attempts at massive social change, Obamacare etc etc.

You don't get to take credit for the good things, and blame everything else on someone else.

Chasbo, we are indeed, philosophically , morally and personally different.

 I assumed ur much younger actually... Look, I respect that you have your own opinions and I think, you probably have the best intentions, I just disagree completely with most of what you say. Doubtful that will ever change. We are not going to convert each other.

Maybe there can be some compromise, that will make us both happy.. but as far as the cry's of socialism, and laziness goes, as long as it persists, there will be those cries, from those of us who, at heart, despise it, and it's effect on us.

I hope for a better future for me and for you. I doubt u can say right now, that ur very happy with the status quo either.

I read the PDF Lantec and I'll admit I am quite surprised. Not by what the Dems did but by what I didn't pay attention to. I knew there was a reason I voted Republican but that doesn't let Bush off the hook. His father got it right went he went into Iraq the first time. His son got it wrong when he decided to finish the job. It may not relate to the demise of the economy in 09 but it hasn't helped it either by spending all that money on a lie.

Right.....Reid won't even bring it up for a vote because his own party won't support it........but go ahead and blame it on the Republicans...I'm sure if you say it loud and long enough someone will believe you.