Amarr Empire

-2, Hate:

Advent - Heathen Religion.

Borg - If only their implants didn't turn me into a slave (irony)

Cylon - They shot me first. . . THAT'S NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE.

Dalek - See Cylon

Goa'uld - Heathen false gods.

Gallente - Love freedom too much and help Minmatar too much.

Minmatar - Get the frack out of space and back onto the plantation.

Rebel Alliance - They actively oppose slavery?

Shadows - Not too sure about talking to deceptive illusive creatures. Shoot. *dies*

Starfleet - See Rebel Alliance

Wraith - I am not another species' meal.

-1, Dislike:

Ancients - oppose slavery, but not actively out for me for it.

Argon - See Ancients

Asgard - See Ancients

Boron - See Ancients

Colonial - See Ancients

Hiigaran - Not too sure about a society with a female hero figure.

Klingon - Too naughty

Minbari - See Ancients

Paranoid - See Ancients

Romulan - Though we have been known to have the same practices, the romulans are moving away from them. Also, they are pretty xenophobic as slave holders, and Starfleet-light as they move away from Slavery.

System Alliance - See Ancients

Tau'ri - See Ancients

Vasari - We both like slaves, well *nears friendship butan* oh wait, no, you let your slaves run around and crap and have a life? *smashes enemy butan*.

0, Neutral:

Cardassian - former slave holders, moving away from it, but not entirely without dignity and a firm control over their people!

Centauri - We like their system of government, but we don't like them.... ehh, neutral.

Dominion - Somewhat like Vasari, but more powerful. *Amarr hypocritcally puts them on Neutral just because of big power*

Galactic Empire - We are similar in most ways, except their heathen religion.

8472 - Not too sure what to think upon initial contact. Not enough people in each spaceship to justify resources expended for capture and enslavement.

Narn - Nice government, stupid people.

Split - Again, nice government, but stupid people.

TEC - Not too sure what to thunk?

Teladi - Profit... like Caldari? But we hardly know them?

Vorlon - Psions???

Xenon - who?

1, Like:

Caldari - Big business buddy!

2, Ally

Us - Because only we know turth!

Please quickly distinguish between Khaak and 8472. The Khaak I read about from X3 and whatever game it's from is very different from the Star Trek 8472. Star Trek 8472 are very good willed, but aggressive and reactive.

The Ancients:

-2, Hates:

Borg: Obvious

Cylons: They shot us before we could even say hi.

Dalek: See Cylons

Galactic Empire: Obvious.

Wraith: Old arch enemy.

-1, Dislikes:

Amarr: Slave holders

Caldari: Does business with slave holders.

Goa'uld: Slave holders and false gods. Brought chaos to homeland while far away threats built up. Proved hindrance to defense of said threats.

0, Neutral:

Advent: They have their plight, strong ships, and are out for revenge. We can see why, but don't condone this.

Argon: Not particularly good or evil in the eyes of the Ancients.

Boron: See Argon

Cardassian: See Argon

Centauri: They seem good, but not particularly more goodwilled than your average human empire. Come off similar as Argon.

Colonial: See Argon

Dominion: Past is bad, presently looking okay, future looks bright.

Earth Alliance: See Argon

Hiigaran: See Argon. Though the feats of the Hiigaran may set them a part from the other neutrals on the list, bring interest first to move up in standing.

8472: Intriguing and seemingly good, but need to control their reactionary behavior.

Klingon: *inches slowly toward the neutral button*

Minbari: See Argon

Minmatar: See Argon

Narn: See Argon

Paranoid: See Argon

Romulan: See Argon

Shadows: See Argon

Split: See Argon

System Alliance: See Argon

TEC: See Argon

Teladi: See Argon

Vasari: Seem bad, but not really evil. They have a free society anyways.

Vaygr: See Argon

Vorlon: See Argon

Xenon: See Argon

1, Likes:

I'm sorry, we only seem to love people.

2, Ally:

Asgard: Old brosefs, bro

Rebel Alliance: Adamantly for the good cause. They'd jump right in with us, amirite guise?

Starfleet: See Rebel Alliance

Tau'ri: our children brosefs.

If I were to modify this, I'd put Cylon down to -2, Advent up to 0, Dominion to neutral, Galactic Empire down to -2, Rebel Alliance to +2 (I see the Ancients taking a definite stand between the two), Shadows to -1 or 0, TEC to neutral 0, Vasari to Neutral 0, and Vaygr to neutral.

You can figure those 3 out. I've never played freespace. Sorry.

My only major problem with the Star Gate lists (and I know Star Gate very well), is that the three vanilla races (TEC, Advent, and Vasari) are not at all known for being particularly good or evil between eachother. They are all neutral on morality. The Advent are the most likely to pick up any sympathy from any of the outside perceived 'good' races, as they have the story of being oppressed. With that said, the Tau'ri and Ancients are mostly seen as forces of good, hero races, in star gate. They are unlikely to go inline with a society that acts the way the TEC do.

I see the TEC most like the Caldari State. I see them as +2 between eachother, when I get to them. Consequently becoming -2 with gallente and Minmatar, and so on.

As a longtime FreeSpace fan, I'm going to have to say the Shivans are -2 with everyone, and everyone is -2 with them.  The Shivans love to emerge out of subspace and start attacking people for no discernable reason, and communication with them may not even be possible.

Speaking of the Dominion, if you're a former and up to the end of DS9/beginning of Enterprise rabid trekkie fan, we can certainly argue this further. If you don't claim such rabid trekkie-ness, you might want to yield here, because I am, and was, during DS9.

Yes, the Dominion were doing some pretty evil things. If you don't take in every possible detail given out by the dominion from the writers, actors, and minor effects, you will say "Hey, wouldn't they be kind of evil?" But the writers in later films and at the end of DS9 show exactly how the Dominion came to do what they did.

You discover that the acts of Dominion forces in the alpha quadrant are directed by one female changeling alone. She is thrust out of power. Changelings are not inherently evil, and this one was just an arrogant woman bent on domination. At latest point in TNG/Voyager/DS9 universe Star Trek timeline (That is, one of the two main star trek live action canons, the other being the reboot by the latest film), the Dominion are a reforming power in contact and in cohesion with Starfleet. They are active in efforts to repulse Borg threats following the conclusion of Voyager's failed attempt to dismantle them.

This fact is by hints you get from the movies of this era in this star trek universe which came before the reboot Star Trek movie. You learn the Dominion are now at least not an evil regime for a single changeling lady.

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Other than the above argument, do you agree with me at least on TEC/Advent/Vasari needing to go neutral with Tau'ri and Ancients? Maybe Vasari could go -1 for continuing disdainful actions. 

Did we come to a consensus?   

Don't make me sik wikileaks on yur ass. The diplomatic cables will become public. 

duh

@purdyaw i concede to ur trekkieness

It is my opinion that the Borg should have a special form of relationship, love. The Borg love to bring you into their collective. They don't really hate, like Dalek. None the less, their love is going to be a standing of -3.

Crap  . You would have to find that stuff so I have to add another race.

Going to have to teach you how to m0d so you can help. 

Well said. That was the plan. 

Get all the assets in and worry about that crap later.

I did want all the player entities done to a point with all the relationships at the bottom included and the selectable priority in alphabetical order. Model entities all point to a blank mesh collection which is a copy of 1 of the existing races weapons and abilities. So as soon as I add a Hiigaran capital ship it is a copy of the TEC capital until I change the values. That lets me quickly test models and keep balance until specifics are worked out. 

Models and sounds are priority one now. And the base mod which needs some basic info of all the races that will be in eventually. Once the base mod is done and the Hiigaran add-on I will upload then work on other races to add.

I will see if I can update the web pages tomorrow with the relations info. Thanks.