Mozilla has gotten this one out fast, and slightly ahead of schedule. Only 12 weeks since ff4 debuted.
Also, just like ff4, ff5’s rendering of Forums sucks.
The final version of Firefox 5 is now available for download on Mozilla's ftp server, just 12 weeks after the last re-up. The latest incarnation brings with it support for CSS animation and a more easily accessible do-not-track setting -- now available at the top of the privacy pane -- but won't see much in the way of GUI enhancements. Of course, if you want to play it safe, and avoid any last-minute tweaks, you can always hold off until version 5 gets official, but what's the fun in that? – Engadget
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Though Google says it is safe in Chrome as it is run in another process... which while it would protect the browser does nothing to protect the video driver which is the real issue as I see it. It exists in kernel mode, has direct access to the hardware, and has no concept of security.
I use Firefox 4.0 because the add ons are not compatible with Firefox 5. I especially like the add on Fox Tab which is like a speed dial for all of your favorite web sites. If Firefox 5 would make add ons compatible with it I would update it. Until then... I'll just stick with Firefox 4.0.
Absolutely correct, Gwenio1. No security software even looks at (nevermind protects) your card/drivers.
I guess I'm sticking to FF4.0. All this about five and still there are issues.......no thank you.
I wonder why everybody's talkin' about Pale Moon? But I sure as heck love it. Using v3.6.15 and looks Perfect with my own Glassphire 2 interface. Same goes for other 'Blinds. Maxthon's been giving me problems, since my BSOD days a few weeks ago, (like reverting back to the old v2.0.5 and eliminating my plug-ins & customizations) so I said "Screw it" and moved on to Pale Moon.
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I hear you. I'd rather keep all my files to myself on my local disk. I won't allow Big Brother & Big Corporate Scum (like Apple or Google) to lay a hand on my precious files, especially graphics & projects i've made myself. (I'll only share with WinCustomize. ) So I say, "Screw the Cloud". I'm glad that i'm not alone in this field. Local Storage all the way!
On another topic, app-stores are SO limited and dumbed-down. Only hundreds of thousands of apps? Why not find hundreds of MILLIONS of free third-party apps for your desktop or laptop and KEEP them all to yourself indefinitely? (examples: Download.com, Softpedia.com) Screw those tiny pitiful app stores. And a lot of those so-called "apps" aren't free. I'm just saying.
So my conclusion is: Pale Moon Kicks ASS!
Sorry id this is a considered a dumb question: palemoon, is a web browser? Is 'safer' than IE, firefox. etc.? Is it still available, and, may I ask, where is a 'safe' site to get it from. I'm beginning to not trust search engine results anymore.....
http://www.palemoon.org/
Home page. you can get the latest version here and yes its safe.
No such thing as "a dumb question", Elana. Never EVER be afraid to ask.
Pale Moon Browser is the Firefox that was built especially for Windows (less bloat since Mac/Linuc, etc. stuff not included) and supposedly engineered especially for Windows machines.
I like it a lot, and am using 3.6.17 .
You can learn about it here: http://www.palemoon.org/
and here: http://www.addictivetips.com/internet-tips/get-faster-firefox-browsing-experience-with-pale-moon-project/
Hi doc uval, everytime i hit the url you both sent for http: ... palemoon.org/ i get sent to this ...
if I type the url (cut paste) it still sends me to this freeze page. It this another redirect malware? Or is MS (im using IE right now because Firefox kept crashing on me) why won't it let me go to the palemoon site, even when url is typed in the window line at the very top?
http://search.freeze.com/search.aspx?
I went to the other palemoon site,,, and got in. It says it won't work with AMD Althlo .. which is what i have.. so i can't use the palemoon version of firefox anyway.... Thanks so much .. it was a good idea to try.
Didn't know you had the Athelon chip, Elana... ah well. No biggy.
Hi Doc, the plae moon has a version for the althlon chip.. found it on the site in one of the pull down menus. using it now... is faster than IE.. and the old firefox and opera. Still don't understand the "freeze" thingy... but I'm happy to get pale moon.
Had never tried Pale Moon before. Just took a look at it and can't see any difference except it's called Pale Moon. Can anyone point to any difference they can see? I am very interested in this new browser.
As for Firefox 5. I have always been use to the idea of a new version to be different from the previous version. This is not a new version, this is just an update with a new number. I find this insulting and shameful. Trying to trick people into thinking they are getting a new product when all it is is an updated version of the one they currently have or what was out before. At least when it went from 3 to 4 the UI looked different.
http://www.palemoon.org/technical.shtml
I find it faster than Firefox. You have to be careful with programs because they don't support Palemoon.
Oh and 3.6 has been updated
I am on 4.0.3 and not had any real issues. Guess I will have to watch it for a while longer.
Hey! Before Doc started crowing about Palemoon, I though it was just a lager too! But I downloaded it (back around 3.6.13) and have used it as my primary through the 4 version so far. And I do love it best.
Firefox 5 working fine here apart from some addons that are not compatible yet like key scrambler.
Palemoon is described as a version of Firefox 'optimized' for Windows OS's, meaning some stuff has been stripped out, I would assume, and other stuff 'tuned' for Windows.
Even though PM4 is recommended for Win7 & PM3 for XP, I've been running PM4 on 2 XP rigs for quite awhile now (currently 4.0.7) without any issues and I prefer the PM4 UI. I had used FF for a long time, but FF4 and FF3 (starting with FF3.6) were both causing me headaches with crashes on opening multiple tabs on one of the machines which is what led me to try PM. Why PM has no trouble here & FF does is a mystery, but clearly some of the stuff 'stripped out' of FF to make PM may have been contributing.
PM works with almost all the FF add-ons. A number of sites I need to use regularly (mainly Outlook Webmail & some banking sites) don't render properly (or work at all) on FF or PM, but using the IE Tab Plus add-on fixes that very nicely.
I've tried Opera, Chrome, Safari, IE8 and FF3/4, and PM4 is where I settled. Works great & is very stable, even with 10 or more tabs open.
I hate Firefox, the browser is getting worse version by version...like Internet Explorer!
I use Chrome and i love it. Chrome is getting better version by version!
But this is my opinion...
I might have moved to Chrome by now except I don't like how it puts all the add-on icons at the top. I just don't know how to get them off of there and only keep the ones I want. I like firefox because of the all-in-one sidebar add-on I have where I have easy access to the add-ons and more when ever I need to. If Chrome had something like this and I could remove the icons at the top at my leisure I would probably move to Chrome although it might be difficult as I am so use to Firefox, I can't even stand having IE open for too long when it's necessary to open.
Thanks for the Pale Moon links. I've been using it for a day now, and with a few add-ons I got it set up just how I like it. The only minor annoyances are that one (or several) add-ons seem to have disabled the 'notify when closing more tabs' check, and that the status bar changes color with the controls and tabs bar, making the UI look quite ugly in most cases.
Also, I know this is a firefox thing but still, how pretentious is it to call skins 'personas' that you can 'wear'. Juck.
Quite correct, I didn't like the skin color changes.
Pale Moon 5 is out ...
I'm using Firefox 3.5.15 and it works just great as well as all the extension/addons...anything after that just seemed to slow down so I switched back. If it ain't broke...
Interesting, it took the Linux distro I use the same amount of time to put out Firefox 5 as it took Pale Moon 5 to be released.
I tried FF5 again and it's okay, so long as I disable Windowblinds for it. So it's using the old retro-style plain titlebar.
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