I want join too  

Uuh. Then its 13 and that means its even harder to get a schedule. Thats much harder than I thought and I could not find anything on the internet. Been working on a 12 player schedule but couldnt get it done. For 4 its easy and I solved it yesterday for 8. Was now working on 12 but have to go to 16. Maybe thats easy when I build it on the 8 schedule. Still trying.

Just a quick update - here is the final list of participants:

• pacov
• zex
• r_munch
• nnnils
• sledge71
• darkliath? 
• HempRX
• visca_el_barca
• mith
• zen_god
• jona
• Dreamcatcher
• doggu

Sledge has been trying to make sense of brackets to help out.  As soon as we have something sorted, we'll update here.  Once the brackets are up, the tourney has begun.  You will be free to get a game in anytime you want after that if folks are available.  Then we'll have 2-3 set times during the week where folks should try to sign on and get a game going. This should provide some flexibility, but everyone will need to make an effort to get their games in.  It shouldn't be all that difficult at first if people make the tiniest effort. 

Not sure about that at this point.  We will likely create a google spreadsheet for stat tracking and then can give write permissions out as needed. 

it's difficult to say, tbh.  I fully expect some folks to start asking to join and some folks to not show up... methinks you feel a little bit of the organizational pain now eh   Not so much fun getting tourneys going

haha - i knew you'd show up tact!  I only thought you'd do it immediately after the tourney started.  We've had like 5 tourneys - and 4 of them you asked to join immediately after it started. 

Please add tact to the roster.  Sledge - pm if the brackets make your head explode.  I'll make some crazy ruling to get final brackets out quick (tho thx for the hlp).

Bad news. Looking at the working 4 and 8 player schedules you can see a logic behind them why they work. Its too much to go into details but the logic makes sure it works in the end. The only thing that can happen is that it runs into a circle where not everyone play with everyone else but with some players twice. That depends on the first match-ups. I now tried ALL possibilities for the 12 player schedule and they all fail.

Now I do hope that since I have one for 4 and for 8 players it does work for 16 as they are all 2^x which actually could explain why it doesnt work for 12. Something worth mentioning is that with 14 players there are always 2 or 6 players per round that will not get to play as player 15 and 16 dont exist. Which isnt a problem but it might look weird that we will have sometimes only 2 games per round and sometimes 3 games.

Will try to get the 16 schedule tomorrow. My excel idea makes it much easier to test the schedules as it automatically fills in a few numbers according to the mentioned logic.

heh - you do it zen

YOU GOOGLE IT!!!!

nah - i've looked around.  If you even know excel at all and saw the batshite crazy formula I tried to dream up, you'd crap yourself. 

I did not really follow all proposition... but if you want make an great solid tournament : that work : how ;

14 (all player) × 13 (all player - you) = 182
182 ÷ 4 (number of spot...) = 45.5  so  46 (because half match cant count ...)


I would had ask for "why not 3vs3?" or free lance match... so other type of tournament. But if you want an solid tour : 3vs3 is the only other solid way and that has another really more hard formula... or well ... if you wanted this one fair : it would theoretically have much more match then 2vs2 formula...

Ok, I can do a better bracket than the one of R-Munch (no offense). In his schedule 1 plays EVERY game either with or against 2. If I take his name example then he has to play all but one game against Nils. Now I know that he will not do well in that tournament in the end. That schedule I would not consider as fair, munch will say I did bad cause I had to play Nils every game and whoever ends second or third will say it was easy for Nils as he could play R_Munch every game.

This will happen a little bit anyways when like the three top players play each other and one of them loses as he had to play with one not-so-top player in that match-up. But having that advantage or disadvantage every single game?

I can make you a more fair schedule than that one in 5 minutes.

Ok so after a long day work, I finally get the schedule, want to post that here and the first thing I have to read is a very redneck pm of R_Munch telling me some not so nice words because I didnt like his schedule. But I guess you have to live with guys like that in this community (before someone ask it wasnt like bad to get him banned, so not that low).

So I have not checked the schedule entirely, I just applied the logic and it went through until the end. Its a 16 player schedule, everyone plays everyone else twice and with everyone once. Even if there is a small glitch in there, I think we should take it. I am quite confident though as whenever it doesnt work you notice quite fast. 

Could you pm me your mail adress please pacov so I can send it to you?

If Insidious plays and we are 15, then the schedule will for sure work perfect as its exactly one game per round that wont happen, so all is good in the end.