So who has been keeping up with this?
As some of you know, the concept for the family tree in War of Magic was inspired by this series. Great series of books.
What shows do you find to be better?
Stargate Universe was decent, for example, although barely. The problem is that the overall quality of entertainment products available today is very low and it is maintained ssuch because this helps the market through a continuous renewal of offer based on the quick boredom produced by such inadequate forms of "artistic" (the term media celarly shows there is no art involved) expression.
Essentially, a consequence of the decadence of our culture.
Yours, maybe....ours down here can't be buggered to put in the effort to be decadent....
Indeed, as you can see by the current brilliance of world economy.
Worst show ever. I agree that some shows could be better, but I think you may have ridiculous standards.
You guys like to exaggerate a little.
Well, you see, not that I am enthusiastic about it, but SGU at least can be seen without having a sense of cognitive dissonance. You may consider it "the worst show ever", but I am not quite surprised, Infact, this is the way someone living in the contemporary dark age sees entertainment.
In SGU for example, there's unity of time and space ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_unities ), whereas both in the (monstruous, undreadable) book series and in the tv show A Game of Thrones, there is none. Fact is, that to sell more books, lately, one of the stratagems has been eliminating the concept of main character and spreading the role of protagonist between different (scarcely defined and often incoherent) characters instead. These are spread between continents, generally, too. Wheel of Time, and other examples of garbage literature, intended for a consumerist market, do it largely, because this improves the chance that the reader might identify with one or the other and so, get attached to the saga. So the audience has been educated (conditioned) not to expect unities in tales anymore.
It's also like a chinese menu or a macdonalds list: the more stuff inside dishes, the better.
In SGU there's an underlying mystery ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sense_of_wonder ) whereas in current tv shows there is none. These are more like japanese anime, in their repetitive reproposition of the mechanistic antagonist-difficulty-confrontation-victory (or defeat, in the case of pessimist plots), without there being any reason for the confrontation besides some bad guy/good guy stereotype.
In SGU characters actually have a personality. In aGoT, they just oscillate around their generic quality (this guy is very honest, the other is very rash, etc.). In Galactica they are a bunch of borderlines or even multiple personality disorders, and everyone does everything and its opposite.
So, in reality, no wonder that SGU has been cancelled. It has been cancelled because it isn't as bad as what the audience has been conditioned to expect, and like. In the age of Lost, beauty is ugliness, and vice-versa.
I enjoyed both reading the Game of Thrones series of books and watching the TV series enormously. The last two books weren't as good as the first few but still enjoyable. I've been trying to find a similar series to pick up but nothing comes close so far.
I tried reading the Malazan Book of the Fallen series but didn't enjoy it much at all. Too unbelievable. The thing I really liked in Game of Thrones was how beliefs and superstition are handled - that is, it doesn't necessarily mean its real. Most fantasy books are full of superstitions that are always real and central to the plot. Game of Thrones reads much more like historical fiction than fantasy.
If anyone has any recommendations on similar books I'd be interested in hearing about them.
I would recommend Abercrombies "First Law Trilogie". Very good story and some great characters. The closest thing to Martins "Game of thrones" that comes to my mind. I enjoyed this trilogie very much.
Nobody has to like Game of thrones. But calling it mindless stuff without plot is either only provocation or you haven´t understand anything. Sry.
Nah, only highlights of the SGU was the Rush character and few episodes around the end of the first/beginning of the second season. The show lacked otherwise any sense to urgency to its main backplot, you say something about underlying mystery, but in 2 seasons this was tackled rather scarcely, we knew basically nothing about what was going on... in regard to GoT, does it have not its "mysterious" backplot with all that "Winter is coming" and white walkers and stuff? Or its not worthy to be a backplot as its nothing new?
Anyway. i wonder, which shows (when clearly even SGU is kind of one-eyed king) are in your opinion good and worthy of watching?
This show one of my favorite show ever. Because i like in show story,star cast,character's,& show chemistry.
It's much deffer to all another shows. So mostly people like this show.
So what station in Australia did you watch those on?
After seeing a couple of previews on the net I've been wanting to see this show on OZ TV, but as yet I've not even seen it advertised, much less aired.
It was on Austar (Showcase Channel I think). They finished a re-run a month or so back.
Okay, that's why I missed out... I refuse to subscribe to Austar, Foxtel and Optus TV... they show more repeats from way back than free-to-air does. Worse still, they force you to take a basic package containing heaps of crap that if on free-to-air you'd turn off or change the channel. For anything worth watching you have to pay extra, and by the time you take into account all the crap and repeats of repeats you're paying for, those want-to-watch shows end up being quite expensive.
Oh well, maybe it'll be released on DVD/Blu-Ray sometime and I can see it then.
There's a Game of Thrones mod for Crusader Kings 2. I hear it's comprehensive and pretty good.
http://citadel.prophpbb.com/topic1282.html
If it's anything up to the quality of Crusader Kings 2, then free up a weekend or two.
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I can't wait for the new season. We have to wait so long for that. I've already forgot how previous season ended
Been thinking of a new series of books to get into. This just might be it since I don't have HBO.
So what do you think about the third season?
IMHO, it was the weakest so far. It started to follow way too many characters, way too many story arcs. When 137 over a year ago few posts above said the lack of Aristotelean unity is a basically bad thing, i did not believe it, it was never an issue to me. Not with GoT at least. But i think they crossed a certain threshold in this regard this season and i can see now from where 137 was coming from. The story kept moving forward literally by snail´s pace cause of it. It reminded me of south-american telenovels, heh.
That said, i still like the show, its one of my favourites currently. But i hope it kinda reconsolidates next year. Some of the characters IMHO are just pointless and the show would be better without them.
Last thing, what do you think about the ninth episode? Holy shit. I have to say, i did not see it coming. And it was kinda disturbing, i mean i have been watching series like Hannibal and others, so it is not i am not used to disturbing images on TV - but this one was different. It was somewhat real to me.
I don't understand why so many people dislike the show. The plot is thrilling, actors are okay, and the best thing about this show is the fact that you never know what's going to happen next. Every time I tried to predict the plot I failed, and that's what I like about it. The way they kill main characters and turn the plotline the other way round is just brilliant)
The weakness of the show is that there is so much to tell and so few episodes. Its more like an ad for the books. Its one of the few times its and advantage to actually have read the books first cause your mind will fill in what TV has to skip.
I think the books as well as the TV show now, suffer from a lack of focus on the later seasons/books.
The first book is brilliant. It has a self contained story with different acts that progress the overall plot, each episode matters and it weaves together at an excellent pace (Dany stuff notwithstanding that so far doesn't affect the rest of the characters).
The second and third book continue the story while increasing the scope and are also excellent.
The fourth book is all over the place leaving out characters we know and care about and seem extraneous to the overall plot.
The fifth book shifts focus back towards plot critical characters but there's not a lot of resolution (there's even regression in Dany's case to a scared girl unable to make up her mind about what she should be doing).
What's missing to me is the tight focus of the first three books. The TV series is already butting up against the edge of this. All they can do is add the extraneous details that so far haven't paid off in order to shoot something.
Big questions like what happens with the whitewalkers, what happens to Stannis, *Jon Snow, Dany's invasion, the Iron Throne? As of five books these and more are all up in the air and could go any which way with no end in sight. But we know more about Dorn, Sam, Bran & the Trees, and jugglers.
Season 4 Trailer- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_YktnQRGB8
God damn it! April 6th... Ya its will come soon but not soon enough!
Okay, so there was a change of heart. I now have Foxtel through Telstra... with 6 months of free movies and drama, docos and comedy. Now I can watch Game of Thrones.
I got a real good deal, too... pays to be indecisive and draw the rep in. $19.95 per month and I got the Foxtel IQ II instead of the standard box thrown in as a bonus. It has 500 gigs of storage so I can record entire series should I desire... can't wait 'til GoT starts up again. Oooooh, and I get the Syfy channel as well... no more waiting months for new sci-fi anymore.... I'm as happy as a hog in muck.
I found this. Apologies if it was already posted.
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