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SGvSW- SW wins. Still. TBH, Lucas probably didn't mean to have SW be so uber-high-firepower, but that's what happened. The "WYSIWIG" (What You See Is What You Get) rule applies here, very heavily.

Though your last comment rather puzzles me; are you implying that the Empire would lose to the Federation (which it wouldn't), or was that simply a typo?

I didn't intend to come across as a Star Trek = God kind of guy. I do apologize if I gave you that impression. The point that I failed to include in my post is that I think that if there was indeed a Star Trek vs Star Wars situation, the Star Trek side could have stronger/more advanced ships whereas Star Wars could have a lot more, less powerful ships. While the technology factor is inaccurate, I think it'd make for a more fun and balanced experience. You could just say the bulk of the Imperial fleet is fighting elsewhere in the universe.

I did keep in mind that the galaxy is quite a large place, but I just don't like the hyperbole that has gone into the Star Wars lore. Don't get me wrong; I love the fiction behind Star Wars. I love the rich history and backstory behind it and I think it's fascinating that pretty much anything could happen because it's in a totally different galaxy and time and not constrained by our own timeline like Star Trek is. But Star Trek is more "real". I like how the Federation isn't all knowing/all powerful. They're limited and they work with what they have. I don't know if that makes sense, but it just all comes down to hyperbole. If they had a thousand or even a hundred thousand systems, that'd be fine. But millions is just too much for my taste.

Eh, I have the original unfucked versions on dvd(pre Solo nerf), so it's not as if I've had a problem suspending disbelief.  You asked, so I gave the reason an absurdly large empire would never exist.  That reply was to Nova as well.

Just to argue for the sake of argument though, superluminal travel is much more believable.  There are multiple theories we simply can't generate enough power to ever test with current technology, or any time within the next few centuries or so quite probably.  Generation of artificial gravity has been observed, negating the acceleration barrier that makes sub-light space travel preposterous at any functional speed, something devastatingly required for both series.  The problem is, assuming they're correct in their rather thoroughly tested, but not yet independently verified findings, that you basically need a portable sun to do anything useful with it right now.  For FTL travel, theories and supporting evidence abound, proof not so much.  We are technologically incapable of even observing them were they happening just in the next system.

Humans on the other hand are not physics.  Any breakthroughs in social order will require either significant brain evolution towards a point where conflict is neutralized and collaborative tendencies are maximized, or astounding breakthroughs in mind control or social conditioning to accomplish the same behaviors.  Either possibility is flat ruled out by the opposite in behavior being displayed.  The Jedi masters, and only a few of them, are the only characters in the series that could possibly coexist for an extended duration on such a massive scale.  Fragmentation is inevitable, a massive conflagration as a result of it is all but.

Efficiency yes, control no.  It starts with something small, the first chip in the glass ends in a shattering breakdown under pressure.  How decentralized you are just determines how many pieces you end up in when it falls apart a little later.  A petty dictatorship will rarely outlive it's founder, but even a democracy rarely survives more than a century.  There are a grand total of two stable republics to ever reach any size before fragmenting, Rome was the first.  It's human nature to self destruct, I highly doubt even a world government will ever be stable without alien invaders forcing us to coexist.

I have to take a few issues with your statements regarding the Borg.

1. The Borg are most definitely not the most frightening alien species ever. I'd say that the C'tan from Warhammer 40,000 probably take that, as they like to kill people because people taste better than star-stuff. Oh, yeah, and it's fun.

But then there's the Tyranids from 40K, who are an extragalactic super-predator species that simply eats planets because it's a super-predator. Or the Necrons, servants of the C'tan, who go around killing "meatbags" (that would be humans and other fleshy species) because that's what they do.

2. If the Borg really wanted to assimilate the Federation, then they wouldn't have sent a single Cube. They would have sent multiple cubes. For the most part, the Federation has been able to survive the Borg due to the ineptness of the Borg.

3. What "technology advantage"? You talk of this, but do not directly specify what technologies used by the Federation are superior to those used by the Empire. Either fess up and tell us what Fed-tech is better than a comparable Empire-tech, or simply stop saying it.

4. I'll simply reiterate that Raw Firepower>Technobabble. No matter what kind of doohickeys and wizzbangs are used by the Feds, their ships simply can't take multi-gigaton and multi-teraton energies being directed against them. And it just so happens that the Empire has said firepower.

I think the Earthlings of Bablyon 5 would win tbh.

http://www.starwreck.com/download.php  StarWreck, the Pirkinning 4TW

I'll point out that due to the temperamental nature of transporter operation, being able to transport weapons into the Empire's warships would likely not work. Oh, and ISDs all have super-dense and very thick armor, which is already known to be unfriendly to transporter operation.

I don't think anybody's actually argued against this. Rather, the thread's veered off track.

I'll point out a couple of things:

1. The Tyranids are totally alien. You can't understand them, at all. Federation+Tyranids=NOM NOM Federation. The fear with the Tyranids comes with the fact that they don't care, that they are totally alien, and that they are pretty much eating things because they're hungry. Also, most Tyranids don't actually eat people. They simply kill you in horrible, painful ways, and then other Tyranids come along later and drag your grungy corpse to a digestion pool.

2. C'tan eat people, yeah. But the thing is, they do it slowly. And they don't actually eat people, per se, rather, they kill you and eat your pain and suffering, oh and your soul too. But not all C'tan are actually like into "eat and kill meatbags hurr durr". Some like to manipulate and basically mess around with humans, and make people their slaves. After all, they must have a supply of meatbags to kill/eat, right?

3. The Necrons, who aren't the same as the C'tan, are also different. Most Necron Lords pretty much are either borderline automatons or pretty loony. Either way, they go out and harvest, and/or kill meatbags. Why harvest? Well, you need to make more Necrons! Especially Pariahs, which are a special type of Necron.

4. The problem with the Borg, is that they aren't really that scary. Because eventually, they can be defeated. You can figure them out. They want to assimilate new races in order to grow stronger and assimilate even more. It's that simple. But, say, the Necrons or C'tan, or the Tyranids? Nobody really knows why they do what they do. I mean, you could say that they're eating planets and suchlike 'cause they're hungry, but no one really knows for sure.

Because the Borg have a Queen, who is actually capable of independent thought, they could, quite plausibly, be reasoned with. Can't reason with a robot-vampire-skeleton or giant spess bugz.

Also note that Borg are the archetypal zombies in space. And that, faced against most other scifi empires (Empire from SW, Imperium (or really any faction) from 40K, for example), they loose. HARD. Because either they're outgunned enormously, or they're outnumbered. Or both.

I'll also point out that 40K has species that are much scarier than the Borg. Eldar? They manipulate humans into dying by the planetfull just so a half dozen Eldar will live.

Dark Eldar? They go on slave raids to torture and pillage, because they've discovered the Elixir of Youth, and it happens to be the pain and suffering of "lesser" races. Oh yeah, and they like to do all sorts or weird, and deviant stuff. Like, vivisect people, or graft extra arms/legs/spikey bitz onto each other, all for "shits and giggles", as it were.

Orks? They just kill and fight, because that's what they do. Doesn't even matter if they win, loose, or run away, so long as they're fighting.

Tau? Sure, they seem like nice guys (join the Greater Good, and keep your religion too!), but they're really not. Sterilizing a human population isn't very kind, now is it?

Chaos? While they might not be alien, they're infinitely worse than the Borg. Why? Simple. Simply looking at a daemon of Chaos can cause terminal insanity (i.e. die from going loony), and daemons also tend to be nigh-impossible to kill, as well as very interested in killing other non-daemon things. Oh, yeah, and they like to eat your soul. Which in 40K, is possible.

So really, the Borg are by far, not the scariest thing around. I might be harping on 40K a bit, but really, it's because 40K has a lot of really scary shit in it. Because it's the grim darkness of the far future, and there is only an eternity of war to the laughter of thirsting gods. Forget the hope of the future and science, for so much has been lost, never to be regained. And no one will miss you if you die, for you are one amongst trillions.

Wait you mean a mod like this:

http://www.moddb.com/members/finfunxxx/images/sins-mod

i would upload the pictures to here directly but i dont know how to. lol

There's actually a Battlefleet Gothic* mod floating around in the forums that hasn't been finished. It's for version 1.041, but using Harpo's Mod Updater toolset, it can be updated for compatibility with the current version.

It's not finished, but it has most of the Imperial ships in it, a couple Ork, a few Chaos, and a single Tau ship that have proper models. I actually like it very much.

/IMPORTANT/ DO NOT try to make a versus mod with 40K stuff. GW will slap you with a C&D order. /IMPORTANT/

*BFG is the TT space-game that Games Workshop released for 40K. Currently it's only marginally supported by GW (though the fans have a big amount of support, there's even an E-zine), but the ruleset for BFG is downloadable from the GW site.

a versus mod?

whisky. my bad was on my phone... Though I think you answered it anyway. lol

It's also tip-toeing around copy-right issues?

And you're right, it is a bad idea. Mostly because Raw Firepower>Technobabble. The former is in abundance in Star Wars, while the latter is pervasive in Trek. Staying extremely close to canon would be a case of "build ISD->win".