It's really the idea that alien biology will be similar to 'Earth-life' biology. It's quite possible that an alien species could have a silicon-based biology instead of carbon.

In which case they exhale sand, drink ammonia, and probably crap bricks-literally. I brought up the octopus to demonstrate that there's life on Earth that doesn't look anything like humans (its intelligence is irrelevant to my point). Because of that, there's no reason to believe that aliens would look anything like us.

We might literally end up meeting superintelligent shades of the color blue instead of bipedal-primate-analogs. I don't think that particular situation would happen, but hey, as the old saying goes 'truth is stranger than fiction'.

You know something aeligos, I have a feeling that you simply don't like government, or civilization, or morality. Or common sense and logic.

So either you're getting on some high horse about how you see the way the world really is and understand how it really works, or your simply an idiot.

I get that it means unidentified, but everyone jumps to aliens when it's a UFO. So, the U is kinda pointless since everyone's made up their minds. We might as well call it an AFO. I guess I'm useless in this conversation in that I don't make supposition regarding the U unless I can outright recognize something (whether it be the object or that it's a hoax).

Plus let's say he knows the ray gun is coming. Doesn't much make him any better off than the guy surprised by the raygun.

  pew pew pew

*sigh*

aeligos, you are being an ass. Do you know why? I'll make it easy and tell you:

It is the idea that you seem to hold that of all the people in this thread you and you alone know how the world really works, and no one else does.

Do you know why I doubt that we are the dropped-off remnants of some super-'alien' civilization? Because there's no proof. At all.

You can tout the pyramids and the writings of ancient cultures all you like, but the pyramids weren't built with the help of aliens, or with the knowledge provided by aliens. Ancient cultures referencing what you seem to interpret as 'aliens' could very well be some drug-induced vision they had.

Remember, in the ancient world, drugs were used in some religious practices.

This whole 'I am not your enemy........What matters...is the direction of your gaze.....duration of hypnosis." That. Is. BS.

I am not hypnotized in any way. It's simply ludicrous that you could say such idiotic things.

You say that I "...actively oppress the reasons of results." and that "It will all make sense..." if I don't do so. You claim that we all have the ".....ability to see for the first time how this reality has been designed."

I accept the idea that 'reality', as in the universe, has been designed. In fact, I uphold that idea. But not for the reasons you stupidly spout. My opinion is based on faith in a supernatural, supreme being who is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. As in, you know, God.

Not some group of pseudo-aliens that you seem to be fond of. Because like it or not, the aliens didn't put us here. They did not, have not, and will not put anyone anywhere, because sentient, sapient alien life at this point is pure conjecture. We have no reason to believe that aliens even exist, let alone are interested in an insignificant little blue marble whose inhabitants have barely climbed into space.

You may say to me 'your argument disproves the existence of your so-called God', but that's irrelevant. My belief in God is based on faith and faith alone. Not some pseudoscientific attempt to explain your convoluted views as if they are the incontrovertible truth (they aren't).

Because if we are really the descendants of some alien species living in a constructed reality, then WHERE THE FUCK ARE THEY?! And WHY THE HELL DID THEY LEAVE US HERE?!

You answer that in a logical and satisfactory manner, then maybe I'll say "meh, he might be on to something". Until then, I utterly reject out of hand your ideas.

If you're simply going to pontificate (fun word, pontificate) on the nature of reality and simply babble away at the question without really answering it, then I'll simply ask G_Bison to steer the thread back on topic.

EDIT: and what would be "...most wonderful..." about witnessing the effects of a railgun? And WTF is an "...ion disruptor..."? I'll admit, I think railguns are cool and I thought the US Navy railgun test clip was pretty awesome, but what is "...most wonderful..." about the effects?

They're interesting sure, but "...wonderful..."?

really? no one has ever heard of the trope 'raygun'?

Whiskey,

The only thing you will accept --as truth-- is a statement from a figure of authority (deference).  You will then create reasons to accept the 'logic' given that statement from that authority.

Explaining my views and stating my position will not suffice without showing you proof of my experience/knowledge/research/etc.

Again.  I do not challenge your views.  You are more than welcome to have your own peace of mind.

Regarding the advanced weaponry:

I am a US tax payer; my identification number, establishing my other identity to the state, was assigned to me shortly after my birth.

So, as a member of the Roman/Jesuit organization (ie, the USA; leader of the NATO axis), I personally would like to see how my money is being used.  The Masters of Space (USAF) have much need for advanced weaponry....and you'd be surprised just how advanced.  Though I doubt the coming war against the RIC (Russia, Islam, China) axis would display the post-modern fire power, I have every reason to believe that this massive display of force is being reserved for a greater foe....one with extra-ordinary capabilities.

Be at peace.

-.-

I think he's just being an ass.

Oh, I've heard of it alright. Classic stuff, rayguns.

Actually, the 'raygun' was started in some of the first SF stories. It was a gun, that shot a ray, as its name suggests. It has since become something of a staple for space opera.

*sigh*. Still being an ass. It's not that I will only accept a statement from a figure of authority. It's that you aren't answering the questions I've posed to you, because you have no answer. You don't know, and so you're avoiding the question.

So either: 1) answer the question dammit! or 2) STFU&GTFO of the thread.

And for your claims about the whole 'advanced weaponry' stuff, have you been getting 'krunk' (high off marijuana and drunk at the same time) lately? Because that's the only reason I can come up with for your idiotic claims.

It's fine, I doubt it made sense to anyone.

I think he's either trying to troll, an idiot, an ass, or high.

I personally think that the existence of alien life is far far greater than the existence of a god. Some of this thread is reminding me of days past when the earth was flat and we were the center of the universe and "god" help you if you disagree with me because I will burn yur ass at the steak. I will let George Carlin - on Religion speak for me here. I have also gave up on watching any of these so called alien videos as it is pretty damn easy to make cameras to funky things to make even a simple street lamp into a UFO. Highly unlikely but NOT IMPOSSIBLE we are being visited. We are 1 tiny grain of sand on a beach that spans millions or even billions of light years and I think that both civilizations would have to be very intelligent and have the will and resources to try to find each other. But really it is no different than a few hundred years ago, 2 guys standing on the beach looking at the vast ocean and one guy saying 'you know there is probably land and life beyond what we have mapped, we should go look." The other guy runs to the church to report the heresy and have the guy locked up and killed.

As for what would aliens look like? Who the hell knows. Most peoples minds are only capable of imagining different forms of life that we have here on earth aka the Star Trek versions that all are around 1.5 meter bipedal humanoid. Thats just crazy. How about a space ship full a billion intelligent cockroaches come to take revenge for all there comrades we killed. How about a bipedal thats over 100 meter high that evolved on a planet 50x the size of the earth. Hollywood has no idea and neither do I.

I can guess we were visited by alien life lots of times if you count what microscopic life might survive the earths entry. One thing I did read many many years ago, I forget by whom, but it theorized that intelligent life from another world would most likely evolve from predators. The brain of a predator is naturally capable of simple math and more complex calculating than its prey counter parts. Ouch. On the other hand would have killed off its own civilization if it could not come to grips with its own violence. So in that case would be like us, wise enough to not just go pillaging the universe but paranoid enough to be armed to the teeth.

Hey, thanks for the specifics. Never even heard of thee term yottameters before. Named after Jedi master Yotta I guess

It's a pun.

Well said.