Ok, so I decided to create a new Chatroom, because the old one was getting pretty....old!
Everyone may post here, as well as in the good'ol Flameroom...I mean, Chatroom
I would like to keep this Chatroom civilized. Well, as civilized as most forum threads are (doesnt mean that you all have to be polite like Oatesy, lol).
So for this reason, I may update the OP of this thread in the future, posting certain thread rules, as I see fit.
For now though, post away, and everyone is welcome!
Currently these users are banned:
- ArcticBlunder
Spell-check.
"He will buy one for my brother and I."
Grammatical error
I think that I am doing Whiskey's job.
"From what my father has told me (for he is a scar fan) the scar-H is a battle rifle that fires 7.62x51mm rounds. As opposed to the scar I, which fires the standard NATO round. I am also pretty sure that the scar has the capability of having its barrel replaced for a different bullet, of this I am less sure."
Grammar Nazism
Woot.
The problem is that the point of most scifi versus is to see who would kick the crap out of the other. I.E., Star Wars vs. Star Trek, which usually means "could the Empire kick the Federation's ass".
The Federation is dwarfed by the Empire in every way shape, and form. The Empire has bigger, significantly more powerful ships, and the Empire covers millions of star systems (versus just 150 planets that the Federation controls). No matter what the Federation does, the Empire wins.
Really, the only way for the Federation to "win" a scenario is if the scenario never happens. Basically, the Empire has to consider the Federation to be too much work to bring up to Empire-standards.
I do concede that an ISD vs Godzilla is a hideously unmatched fight, and probably a bit unfair. But the point is that "fairness" is basically making each side follow the same rules. That's it. It's not making sure each side is equal, because as I noted earlier, a fight between an adult and a child, so long as both follow the same rules, is fair. It's unmatched, but fair.
Except, of course, why would I even be on the same planet as Godzilla?
No idea about the USAF stims. I'd imagine it's something to keep them awake/alert, or increase g-force tolerance, if they actually do have stimulants that they issue.
As for the M4/FN SCAR, well, can't help with the M4, as I consider it to be a well-designed, but poor weapon. Most of it has to do with fairly intense maintenance requirements.
The SCAR, well, you can pretty much dump it in a bucket of dirt, let it sit a couple hours, pull it out, and fire it just fine.
@Syneptus- yes, you are doing part of my job for me. But in this case, help is appreciated.
Besides, good grammar, spelling, and punctuation combine to make a post legible, and easy to read. If it's easy to read, then people will actually, *gasp* read it. Also, wall of text=BAD.
HaHaHA
Why not?
Oh and regardless a matched fight. Is that too hard too ask.
Even Godzillla needs a reasonable opponent
Even if Empire is brought down to Federation then it is a well matched fight(maybe)
Sorry Nilles.
I had a random trollish spasm.
Godzilla cannot stand up to the might of Togepi. Togepi blows up stuff by simply waving its hands...
Not much else to be said.
I doubt you realize this, but YOU'RE COMPLETELY MISSING THE FUCKING POINT YOU JACKASS.
A "reasonable opponent" is NOT THE FUCKING POINT of a versus scenario. Either party having an equal chance at victory IS NOT THE FUCKING POINT of a versus scenario.
The WHOLE FUCKING POINT of a versus scenario is to pit two or more entities against each other and figure out what would happen, and who would win. Whether or not the scenario is "reasonable" or "evenly matched" is FUCKING IRRELEVANT. The relevancy is that both parties have to play by the same rules. Nothing more, nothing less.
Sadly, you're last sentence betrays your total ignorance of versus debates in general, and SW vs ST in particular. Even if the Empire were the same size as, or even smaller than, the Federation, the Federation STILL FUCKING DIES.
Because the Empire's warships have:
1) Greater firepower. A single ISD, the mainline warship of the Imperial Navy, can slag an entire planet. The Federation's entire fleet can't rival that.
2) Greater FTL Speed. This doesn't sound like much, but the fact that an ISD with a hyperdrive can outrun the COMMUNICATIONS SIGNAL of a Federation starship is a MASSIVE strategic advantage. It's like pitting the Roman Legions against a modern force with airlift capability. The modern force has such a massive mobility advantage that they can use to strike anytime, anywhere, and it allows them to fight on only the most favorable terms to themselves.
Except, of course, in the case of the Empire vs the Federation, it's even worse.
3) Greater durability. This goes hand-in-hand with greater firepower; SW's greater firepower in general means that SW warships have to be able to stand up to greater amounts of destructive energy. A Federation starship could pound all day on an ISD and not even put its (the ISD's) shields down. Whereas an ISD can annihilate a Fed starship in a single shot.
4) Greater industrial capacity. The Empire's control of a million worlds can be chalked up to this, but the ability to field and maintain a fleet including 25,000 mile-long ISD-Is and ISD-IIs, along with probably around 100 Executors (the big 19 kilometer (nearly 12 miles) long super star destroyer) is not to be underestimated.
Add in the ability to construct 60% of the Death Star II, in six months, and it's even worse. keep in mind that the first Death Star was 160 kilometers in diameter (that's 100 miles in diameter for those less metrically inclined), and the DS2 was BIGGER than that. By A LOT. Like, some DSII size estimates peg it at 900 kilometers (nearly seven times the diameter of DS1, and many times the volume) a lot.
As an aside, I'm not the least bit interested in a Godzilla versus. I "raised you one ISD" to illustrate the point that Godzilla is by far one of the least killy things in any science fiction, particularly compared to the Star Wars universe. You seem to believe that I'm interested because I've been refuting your statements that a versus match should be equal in all respects between all sides.
While for a fanfic, that would be acceptable, for a versus scenario, it simply isn't.
Furthermore, don't keep repeating that a versus scenario should be "evenly matched". By their very nature, versus scenarios aren't supposed to be evenly matched. It's simply a consequence of taking different universes and pitting groups from said 'verses against each other.
On a tangent, continuing to repeat yourself while ignoring the rebuttals of your "opponent" (which in this case is me, as we've descended into a fairly informal debate), is called "broken record debating". It's very heavily frowned upon, to the point that most experienced debators of any kind will conclude that you simply have no other argument and are hoping to win by so frustating your opposition that they simply give up. In which case, you will then be heavily flamed, trolled, and/or ridiculed.
Random trollish spasms FTW.
Trollgasm?
-Twilight Storm
@ whiskey i understand but I want a well matched fight
Lulzy statement FTW.
Well, then you're simply going to be lampooned as a fool by most versus debators you encounter.
Godzilla vs gordon freeman
Yeah I heard that. Apparently the gas from the fired round is pumped straight up the barrel to move the working parts, blowing all the debris into the working parts. Not fun for when you have to clean it.
So Morph, what does this weapon remind you of? It's a model, not the real thing, and we call it the L119A1. Hmm... Looks strangely familiar...
Looks like a tripod
Got it in one Altaux. This is the L119A1 "Tripod", the next British assault rifle, to be introduced by 2025.
Now Altaux, that's not evenly matched either. Gordon has an RPG, frag grenades, a crowbar, and the gravity gun. The last gives him the undeniable advantage of being able to chuck inanimate objects at Godzilla.
And what does Godzilla have? Poor maneuverability in urban environments, too tall to properly look down on stuff, and being uber tough.
I'm rather flummoxed by the image you posted, because all I can see is a "Image hosted by tripod www.tripod.com" logo. And I wikied the L119A1, which apparently is an M16 variant.
Actually Whiskey, in some scenarios, Godzilla also has a nuclear beam of energy from its mouth...just sayin...
My point exactly
Also what I meant
Ah... Image fail...
Anyway, I was joking about it being called "Tripod..." I thought Altaux was making a war of the worlds reference.
Anyway, the L119A1 is a C8SFW. Basically an M16 (I think) made by the Canadian branch of Colt, with some minor adaptations.
Like This?
Yes.
Ah, but does Godzilla ever have the ability to fire a nuclear mouth energy beam in the shows and/or movies? If not, then that's a "fanon" ability, and not something he's got in the "canon" of Godzilla. This is, of course, only counting movies and/or television series of Godzilla as "Godzilla canon". Though I'm not aware of Godzilla novels or comics.
In contrast, it is fully established in Half-Life "canon" that Gordon has a gravity gun, a crowbar, and access to an RPG and high explosive grenades.
Plus a crossbow.
Togepi.
LOLWUT materializing cats in space. Play the song of the same name as the text I linked.
Also recomment Neurotransmitter Decay.
Of course Godzilla has nuclear breath, he always has exceptin the America Film (but apparently Toho has said that it is not Godzilla, but Zilla )
Neurotransmitter Decay?
And a cool Dog too
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