Ok, so I decided to create a new Chatroom, because the old one was getting pretty....old!
Everyone may post here, as well as in the good'ol Flameroom...I mean, Chatroom
I would like to keep this Chatroom civilized. Well, as civilized as most forum threads are (doesnt mean that you all have to be polite like Oatesy, lol).
So for this reason, I may update the OP of this thread in the future, posting certain thread rules, as I see fit.
For now though, post away, and everyone is welcome!
Currently these users are banned:
- ArcticBlunder
The Army? As an officer, perhaps, but not as a regular.
Whiskey:
The only person who can change your faith or beleifs is yourself, I just push people into doing it. Have I mentioned I intend to get "Athiest Missionary" tattooed on my back? I can't take away your right to support or practice your faith, however, that's Constitutional. Anyway, what you just described as real Christianity can also fairly be called Judaism and Islam. In theory all three groups worship the same "God", they just each have seperate idols, Abraham for Judaism, Jesus for Christianity, and Mohammed for Islam. In all fairness I could provide an excellent rebuddle to your challenge of genetic homosexuality by saying that you have no scientific proof that "God" exists, so I think I will. As for that issue, I'm going to actually read the book here for a second... okay. I quote "Researcher Simon LeVay discovered that the size of the anterior hypothalamus, which is a cluster of cells, is smaller in homosexual men. Levay thinks his discovery is an important part of the nueral pathway engaged in sexual behavior, and that sexual behavior patterns may influence brain anatomy, which can cause sexual orientation" as well as " Laura Allen and Roger Gorski conluded that brain anatomy influences sexual orientation after discovering that a sextion of the anterior commisure is 1/3 larger in homosexual men compared to heterosexual men." As for strictly genetics and not brain anatomy, "Homosexuality has been shown to run in families, is more common in identical twins, and recent genetic engineers have been shown to manipulate females into acting like males during courtship and males to act as females". I can also enlighten you on the exposure of prenatal hormones as well, if you're not yet convinced. The whole "B for Blasphemy" thing and all my other titles were just puns on my behalf, fyi, they didn't have anything to do with content. My apologies. Anyway, in today's society half of all marriages end in divorce, so I just find the idea of sleeping only with your wife to be a bit far-fetched since you never know what happens after the ring is on. Sigmund Frued was, in fact, a rather large pervert, as he thought the human mind only ever speculated about sex, getting more, and having better sex. He calls when the daughter is in love with the father the "Electra Complex", but again my memory fails for when the son loves the mother.
Morpheas:
PLEASE NOTE: All the titles before my comments are merely COMICAL RELIEF PUNS on my behalf, as I get bored easily. With the whole Ottoman/Greek thing, the Ottoman's controlled Greece for a rather long period, so I wasn't asking about your STRICTLY ANCESTRAL descent, but rather your rescent native greek / immigrant greek descent. And my "stoopit" thing? IT'S CALLED ORIGINALITY, PLEASE ASSOCIATE YOURSELF WITH IT. I find it rather sad that everything has to have a reference or footnote these days for it to be citable, notable, or otherwise important. This is probably why we're in a technological slump as a species, nobody feels like getting up off their ass and thinking of something new. And if you find May cute, you're officially a pedo-bear. Sorry m8. I thought you had a policy against watching Anime, anyway?
Xer0 \^/
That's the name. I know. It's terrible.
Basically, Avatar is one big confusion of meanings. On one level it criticises the treatment of Native Americans (you know, when they used to all get kicked off of their land and put in a reservation, only to be moved again when valuable stuff was found in that territory, etc), with the unobtainium representing the minerals that the native americans were moved for, and the blue people obviously representing the native americans, and the Generic-Corp or whatever its name was representing the Americans who kept moving them. Something like that.
And then on another level it tries to be an action film. However, it sucks because the might of the bad guys comes crumbling down because of a flock of birds. Yeah. It's not even funny.
So, in review. Pretty enough CGI, pretty poor story.
Oh, Avatar the movie?roflmao
The whole thing is basically the plot of "Pocahontas" - the Disney movie, just made future-era instead of in the past.
A bunch of insanely boring stuff in Xer0's post, so I'm just gonna quote what interests me.
I've never heard such big, fat bullshit before
And stop mentioning Frued over and over again, jeez! He isnt Einstein you know
Frued said this, Frued said that. Nobody cares dude, nobody cares. Frued couldnt even prove half of his theories.
Moving on.
Thats another expression for: "I fail really hard, so I make up stuff to make myself look cool"
I swear to God, in the time that Xer07 was away from the forums, some alien species kidnapped him, took him to their spaceship, and took half of his brain out of his skull, for various tests and study.
I swear to God, he cant really be that stupid
Dude, didnt you get it the first time?
Answer -----> How the hell should I know? Its been centuries since then.
I already told you that I was born in Greece, and so did my parents, and so did my grandparents, and so did my great-grandparents.
Intentional stupidity surpasses any other kind of stupidity. And you are being intentionally stupid here.
Or you want a damn history lesson regarding Greece and Turkey? No thanks, I have better things to do
No it isnt originality. Its just pure randomness, and its not even the good kind. Next!
I honestly feel like I am teaching a little kid how to speak properly
Fine, I'll explain the obvious.
Xer07, this is a forum thread. When someone says something, they either refer to something or someone, or they say something to make a point, and maybe start a discussion, I dont know. But someone says something for a reason. Saying random stuff is just as stupid as it is pointless.
Now, your comment (stoopit) didnt refer to anything, didnt answer any questions, didnt make a point, or anything else. So why did you say it? Was there a hidden meaning we were supposed to catch? Its like me saying: "That chair has devoured a baby that was marketing aliens." Does it make sense? No, of course not.
Xer07 --> the only person who took my part of randomness seriously. Really Xer07?
Oh God, I keep hearing more and more stupid things
Ugh, apparently, I am a Greek patriot, who has a policy against anime, and doesnt get Xer07's awesome puns.
Oh wait I forgot: I am also gay, according to Xer07.
Well done mate, you figured everything out, except for the fact that I work for CIA
LOL, at least you make me laugh a bit
Yeah, thats Xer07. He's A W E S O M E like that More funny stuff please
"My Pokemans. Let me show you them"
Damn.
I was hoping to piss you off with all that bull. I think I got close, tho, because you at least bothered to reply. Ah, well. Onto the next...
Anyone hear about Dead Space 2? It looks awesome, but I still havn't played Dead Space 1 yet. Don't have a XBox or a PS3.
Crysis 2 for PC. 'Nuff said.
@Morph- nope. Unobtainium is really what Cameron called the metal. Hideously stupid and took the word out of its context and actual meaning.
Number one, PLEASE DO NOT USE WALLS OF TEXT. Break it up a bit.
Also, 'Abraham' is NOT worshiped in Judaism. The basic beliefs about God are also different in each; Islam is a 'only one God', Christianity is a 'triune' God, that is a God who is one being in 3 manifestations.
Of course there's no scientific proof that God exists.....on the surface. I mean, the probabilities and possibilities and all that that life could arise without any intelligence prodding it along is simply stupid.
The idea that the, albeit inefficient from a mechanical standpoint, human body, which is incredibly complex could arise from random processes is simply ludicrous. At the very least, you'd have to say that there's something intelligent that caused all that.
My opinion is that the Creation account given in Genesis is the truth; that's how Man arose. Also, it is incredibly important to remember correlation DOES NOT IMPLY causation. That is to say, just because there's evidence that these things are occurring in said individuals, doesn't mean that the occurrences are the reason/cause of their behaviour.
Of course, the reason today's society has 50% of marriages ending in divorce is because of the moral bankruptcy of said society.
After all, if I and my (hypothetical at this point) wife truly love, and are devoted to, each other, then why would we have any need to go outside of the marital relationship for any kind of romantic or sexual fulfillment? Marriage is supposed to be an expression of two, opposite-gendered individuals' love and commitment for each other.
And just because Frued was a pervert doesn't mean everyone is. IMO, he simply thought 'I think this way, so everyone else must think this way as well'.
Obviously not the case. As for Dead Space 1/2, heard of, not interested.
Au contrair, Angels Fall First:Planetstorm. 'Nuff said.
Nope, you just made me laugh, and also made yourself look pretty dump, more or less
And you werent trying to piss off anybody, because obviously this cant piss off any of us here. Maybe you were trying to look cool, I dont know
I have Dead Space 1, but I never bothered to play it
Hellz yeah!
= "I cant think of any good names for it, so I'll just name it for what it is: Unobtainium."
FAIL
Actually, 'Unobtainium' is used in SF discussions as a term to describe a piece of technology that we can't currently construct, but that we can delineate the capabilities of based on our current understanding of physics.
So, a magic metal wouldn't be unobtainium. It'd be 'MacGuffinite'*. Unobtainium would be the ship they used to get to the moon thing, or a high-powered laser cannon, or a nuclear-based propulsion system, or an antimatter based power or propulsion device.
*MacGuffinite is derived from the term MacGuffin; a MacGuffin is a contrivance of a story's plot to move said plot forward. MacGuffinite is a contrivance in the form of some valuable commodity. Hence, Cameron's 'unobtainium' should have been called 'MacGuffinite'. It was there only to provide a reason for why the humans are trying to do bad things to blue monkey people and why they decided to cross an interstellar expanse.
Actually morph I took a few minutes to figure out what would piss off a guy like you most. Since I don't know exactly what kind of guy you are, I choose something that pisses me off the most: blind stupidity and ignorance. Didn't work, tho.
Unobtanium is used annoyingly frequently these days... going back to the lack of originality... for example in my Geography class (I think, it was 2 years ago) we watched a crappy Sci-Fi movie about where the Earth's core stopped spinning and therefore generating magnetism. So we humans sent down a shuttle made of "Unobtanium" armor, and detonated nukes around the core to get it spinning again. The whole concept of the movie was bull in general, since we don't need a magnetic field to survive (The Atmosphere, as it turns out, is thick enough to make up for it. We'd lose the Aurora's, and a few migratory animals would get lost as hell, though).
In 'hard' (read: semi-realistic/moderately-rooted in real-world physics; YMMV) SF 'Unobtainium' is never used to describe something within the contents of the book.
Unobtainium is instead used to describe terminology relating to devices that we can't build now, but based on our current scientific knowledge would work a 'x' way. For example, an antimatter drive is Unobtainium.
Note that there are some other SF terms:
Handwavium: 'waving our hands, don't pay attention to the Welsh women singing'. Basically, a piece of 'handwavium' (also a term never used in a story) is something that flat-out violates physics. FTL is an example; however FTL is perfectly acceptable; it's generally a given, as fans/readers want it, (almost) everyone else does it, and it makes getting around the galaxy easier.
Technobabble: ever seen Star Trek? Particularly the later series? And all those funky words and phrases they throw around to describe stuff? That's technobabble. Ex: 'our tachyon arrays have been recalibrated to detect the Warbird sir!' technobabble is one of those things that only stands out when done poorly. Like in TNG onward Star Trek.
MacGuffinite: magic metal/goods/commodity that gives you a reason to be someplace. Typically this kind of thing is some awesomely useful material that's only available in space (or available in extremely limited quantities on Earth). Based on the term 'MacGuffin', which is a plot contrivance to move the story forward/give a reason to be somewhere.
The 'Infinite Improbability Drive' from The Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy is probably an example of MacGuffinte, only as a technological handwavium device and taken to the ultimate, logical conclusion.
Side note: if a Trek Federation ship fired torpedoes at the SS Heart of Gold, the only ship which mounts the Infinite Improbability Drive, the most like result would be the HoG uses it's IID, and then turns the torpedoes into an assortment of random objects.
Said objects would likely include a buttercup-yellow sundress, that is the perfect size for one of the Hitchiker's Guide female characters, who happens to be on the Heart of Gold.
I think we also need to mention here that The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy satirises everything that is sci-fi anyway, so this is probably intentional on the writer's part. Also, the Universe is Handwavium.
9X6=42
No, that actually amuses me quite a lot And I would be even more amused if I believed that you are truly dumb/stupid, but like I said in my post, "he cant really be that stupid". But it was a bit amusing, to say the least
TBH, there is no possible way for anybody here to piss me off for real, because nobody knows me in RL. If you knew some personal stuff about me, then yes it would be quite easy to push my buttons.
Damn, that always annoyed me. And not only in Star Trek, but also in crappy Sci-Fi old movies, that tried to look cool and stuff.
"hey, lets throw some random cool-sounding tech words somewhere in the script, so that the viewers would be like: wow thats so cool!"
But unfortunately the viewers are like: "Wow, thats so LAME!"
Anyway, I like that word
I've watched that movie many times, and I thought it was quite nice, if you can ignore the big fat bull it contains. But if you dont care about realism and credibility, then this movie is actually really great, having enough suspense and action to keep you staring at your tv screen.
I'd give it a good 8.0 out of 10
Uhm, I dont know if that was intentional, or it meant something else, but 9x6=54 not 42.
Someone has never read/seen Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.
Yeah, I havent seen or read it.
The Infinite Improbability Drive is actually a very tongue-in-cheek way of the writer (Douglas Adams) solving the dilemma of how a spaceship would rescue the 2 main characters after they're ejected from an unfriendly spaceship.
Because of how infinitely improbable it was, he decided that the IID would be the method that caused it.
Technically, yes, 9x6 is 54. But in the Hitchiker's Guide, the answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything, is 42. Really. Not kidding.
So because 42 is the answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything, 42 is also the answer to all mathematical problems. Hence, 2+2=42, 9x6=42, 77,777^2=42.
You should try and get a copy of The Ultimate Hitchiker's Guide, which contains all of the Hitchiker's Guide novels that were written by Douglas Adams. They're all pretty good, though I didn't like Mostly Harmless, the last novel, very much as at they end everybody died.
Though of course I can totally abuse that to say 'the Infinite Improbability Drive transports them all aboard the SS Heart of Gold nanoseconds before they die and they end up in [insert other fictional scifi universe here]'.
Incidentally, who here who's read the Guide thinks that a Star Trek/Guide crossover would be hilarious? After all, a man has to know where his towel is.
I took the fact that 9X6=42 to mean that the Universe was fundamentally flawed personally.
That makes no sense at all. Is that movie a comedy maybe?
Btw, it sort of reminds me of "The Number 23", where Jim Carrey was so obsessed with #23, that he saw it everywhere, to the point that he thought that the number was hunting him.
*Claps slowly*
For the record though Whiskey, I don't think that's why 9X6=42. I'm pretty sure that that is the only "wrong" sum, and it's because the Universe doesn't work.
You see Morph, by the start of the books/film (the original film, not the new one) it is known that the answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything is 42. However, nobody knows what the question is. Eventually turns out that it's 9X6. Universe=Fundamentally Flawed.
I was obviously being sarcastic.
I still dont get it. How is the Universe flawed?
[drama]
*scoff*
Was my chatroom not good enough for you so you just had to go and STEAL it?
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Veers, you honor us with your presence.....
NOT!
Nope, I didnt steal anything. As far as I know, you havent actually put a trademark or own exclusive rights to Chatrooms in general.
And its not that your chatroom is not good enough or anything, I just wanted a thread that I can manage and preserve, since you were unwilling to even bother to manage your own Chatroom.
That said, I still consider the #1 chatroom to be your own, and it is quite obvious that my thread's title "The REAL Chatroom" is kinda sarcastic, concerning the "REAL" part.
As you can see in the subtitle, it says "Or Alternative Chatroom".
And now you can cry all you want about it
Uhhh....Anyone else get the feeling Veers is one of Xer0's alternate personalities? I mean, He comes back, then Veers comes back like a week later?
Lolz.
And even though it was 2 pages ago:
I agree that Humanity's portrayal in Mass Effect is AWESOME, although, my favorite race is the Geth. Seriously, a real sentient machine uprising that ended with the machines winning. (I like them even more in ME2 when you find out they were just defending themselves and actually might want to be allied with the rest of the Galaxy. That's 2 massive fleets that will be added to the defense against the Reapers (Assuming you saved the Rachni Queen in the first game...)
-Twilight Storm
Nah, I'm fairly certain we're different people. Let me check.
*looks*
Yep, we're separate.
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I think Humanity gets one of its best portrayals as the Imperium of Man in Warhammer 40k. The greed, selfishness, corruption, devotion, and barbarity of the Imperium just resonate with our species inner nature.
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