She was ordered to pay $US62,500 ($A62,303.74) for each of the 24 songs, a total of $US1.5 million ($A1.5 million) dollars.
Not much to say as it seems all bases are covered. I will add this though ... a single mother with four kids. No other half around. A handful of songs ... songs. Not riches or jewels or Identities. $62,500 US dollars per song. 1.5 million dollars. The judge should be shot! The lawyers should be hung by their short hairs and the damn companies I hope go belly up! There is no way in hell ... anyone can justify this kind of punishment for a handful of songs. Let her pay for the songs. How much could they possibly be ... $2 maybe $3 a pop. But no ... greedy corporate types need to get their fill. Let them all go to hell!
Imagine the Saudis using our standards for this case ....they'd put her in a blender, and we'd bemoan Sha'ariyah law.
Definitely not what we're supposed to be about.
I agree. I think an important distinction is the $money$..... copy a CD and sharing it with a friend is technically illegal too.... but the money companies loose from that is insignifcant compared to the P2P on the internet.
Because it isn't black and white. It used to be legal to own slaves. Society changed and so did the laws. Society is changing, but unfortunatly the laws having to do with internet are having "trouble" keeping up.
If she had been downloading music from Kaaza a year or two ago, nothing would have happened to her. Just like copying a VHS tape is technically illegal, but nothing will happen to you (or at least most people expect nothing to happen) if you do.
But I am pretty sure you are a saint and have never broken a single law, so you wouldn't understand because you are soooo much better than everyone else. Right.......
*Edit*
And for anyone else who thinks its so simple.... well if you go to Washington State... you better not have a cold. Its Illegal to have a cold in public..... your such a terrible person! If you get fined $1.5 million dollars for having a cold its.....
RCW 70.54.050Exposing contagious disease -- Penalty.
Every person who shall wilfully expose himself to another, or any animal affected with any contagious or infectious disease, in any public place or thoroughfare, except upon his or its necessary removal in a manner not dangerous to the public health; and every person so affected who shall expose any other person thereto without his knowledge, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.
Minimum wage.
LOL
When ever a discussion like this takes place sometimes it allows folks to really misbehave. It is nice to see everyone trying their best to keep it civil.
you don't call hazmat for a cold = no crime
Welcome home, oh wandering one! Yo Bichur!
Now if ONLY Law reform actually kept up with this situation.... where 'correct' penalty is applied to IP theft [piracy]....all that is needed is that every OTHER criminal act is met with scaled and appropriate penalty.
No, don't get all weak-kneed and want IP theft penalty LESSENED....call for the 'bigger stuff' to attract BIGGER penalty.
Eye for an eye.
Literally.
Murder?
Death.
Rape?
Buggerized and death.
Arson?
Burn.
Remember...the only 'negative' is the increased burden on the Penal system.
Solution....?
Death penalty return....heck....let's make 3-time losers REALLY 'lose'....
That'll work....
Yo Doc
I like the way Jafo thinks, even if he is from the land down under.
Jafo is a bleeding heart liberal - rip out their hearts and watch them liberally bleed
At that price? What a steal! haha.
Looking at your list it seems like it'd lighten the load on the penal system, not a lot of jail time there. Win\Win I suppose if you want to go that route...
hey fuzzy logic, speaking of punishing criminal behavior, A: this wasn't criminal it was civil, that's why she's liable and not guilty, and B: Do you have permission to use that image of Spock?
Common sense is an alien concept to money/power hungry mongrels. Period!
I agree, the law of common sense that is deep inside all of us says, 'Don't Steal'.
Libertarianism you mean. Never was a success in the long term, because it doesn't work in the real world.
An eye for an eye only leaves the world blind and there can be no justice without mercy. Of course criminals would do all those things, they're criminals. What's your excuse.
Actually the justice system, in the West, use to be nearly exactly like you want, but it was found to not be true justice at all, but revenge instead and thus the State (Government) lost all moral authority.
Irrelevant. Libertarianism is a flawed conservative belief, not a nation. Its what is destroying America now and it has never worked in any other nation either through out history.
Actually I was replying to Magog_AoW and agreeing with him about your statement and telling him what it is called.
Sim2er wrote: "i buy music i can afford, ... what i can't stand is charging extra money for video game soundtracks, buying the game should entitle you to the sound in it."
This makes sense, is very intuitive, and I feel the same way.
However, legally, we don't 'buy' games. We actually buy a license to run that application. The license includes restrictions. So, the company **may** have, in the license agreement, something about when / how the sound / music files may be used. If it isn't licensed for stand alone use, then we can't, legally, separate the music from the game, and play the music as we wish.
Personally, I have no idea if such clauses are actually in the license agreements. But, if push came to shove, they might be (added).
That's all well and good, IF there were such a thing as omniscience, so that absolute guilt could be determined. There isn't. As a matter of fact:
"The most far-reaching study of the death penalty in the United States has found that two out of three sentences were overturned on appeal, mostly because of serious errors by incompetent defense lawyers or overzealous police officers and prosecutors who withheld evidence." http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/061200death-penalty.html Now I'm off to watch Dexter.
I hear you and understand what you are saying k10w3 but I don't think that the story in the OP is a case of someone wrongly accused. Now, some may feel unjustly accused.
Go back to the old days and send 'em to Australia.
Marriage...
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