When you speak of classic PC gaming, Age of Wonders will no doubt come into the conversation. You can now get all this gaming goodness on Impulse DRM-free!
Thank you kind sir! I am now downloading Shadow Magic Oh, hey look, all those $45 to $100 price ranges on Amazon and E-bay just went out the window. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Yay! Glad to see you put the other games up!
Awesome!!
Question: If someone ordered Age of Wonders when it was initially offered on Impulse and now they're interested in purchasing the Trilogy, can they contact support to "upgrade" for the difference?
I can't speak specifically for Stardock, but I've had that same problem pop up at GG. I purchased a game there, and that weekend the bundled the game and 2 expansions for less than I paid. All it took was one polite email to customer support and they added the expansions to my account. I'm pretty sure that's the normal response to issues such as these.
I don't understand why someone would buy "Age of Wonders" instead of "Age of Wonders: Shadow Magic". Doesn't the latter include the original game plus a whole lot more?
No it doesn't.
First came AoW I, then AoW II, then AoW SM (which was a sequel to AoW II).
The reason for getting AoW II in addition to AoW SM would be for the campaigns.
I actually ordered AoW SM but would be interested in AoW II. If I do that, I might as well get the first game for free since AoW II + AoW SM = the price of the AoW Trilogy.
Age of Wonders: Shadow Magic @ Wikipediahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Wonders:_Shadow_Magic
yeah - I'll probably pick up the whole trilogy, but I was advised that shadow magic is pretty much the best of series.
Shadow Magic is the best. It added 2 (or three?) races, each with some unique mechanics, a third plane (on top of caves and surface) etc etc.
Still, the others each have their worth. AoW I was oozing with an odd charm, AI issues aside. I also enjoyed its campaign more. AoW II was a great successor, and SM was a very solid expansion. I still break out the map editor from time to time, when I'm feeling creative but don't want to actually, you know, play anything.
To bad this was not out in time for people that get the game through Impulse could join the AoW:SM 1 v 1 PBEM tourneyment at Age of Wonders II Heaven.
Just bought whole trilogy.
It's 3 new races in the SM. Shadow Demons, Syrons and Nomads.
Also Shadow Magic is not a sequel but rather expansion of AoW 2. It has a tons of content though so it could almost pass as sequel.
AoW had 12 races and allowed 12 players in single game (as opposed to 8 in AoW2 and AoW2:SM). It also has tactical combat that is arguably even more tactical then later AoW games. For starters, units start further away from each other giving you time to position them on the battlefield before engaging enemies. I recommend people to try all these games. Whole trilogy is dirt cheap in the Impulse now and you are guaranteed tons of fun playing them.
Did I mention still live and kicking community that still produces maps and mods for these games?
I want to buy Shadow Magic, but I'm definitely going to wait till it comes to GoG.com or just get it off ebay/amazon. I want it 110% free of DRM.
The one on Impulse is also free of DRM.
Nope:
"* Impulse must be installed in order to download and update software."
So you install it and then forget about Impulse. You don't need Impulse or internet connection to play it. Just like you don't need to have Impulse (or internet connection) for any other game you buy on Impulse. Impulse isn't like Steam. Also, there won't be any more official patches for AoW:SM so you don't need to worry about updating it.
Impulse is simply a downloader for it, you don't need to keep it running or have it installed to play.
True, but its safe to say that's not going to matter that much to this fellow.
Iit may already be on GOG, I know AoW 1 wasd put there prior to its stunt of shutting down.
It's still a form of access control, as defined by DRM. We cannot access the game without using your proprietary software first. Obviously, there will probably never be any actual updates of AoW, but still, it's a "technical" restriction as part of the agreement. Also, what happens if I lose my files? Do I have to use Impulse to re-download it again?
This is what I never understand. People will argue till they're blue in the face that "this is not DRM" and does absolutely nothing to restrict our play online or offline. My answer is, then why use it all?
If you are REALLY telling us we have nothing to complain about at all, then why not just give us a compressed file we can download directly from our browser like GOG does? There is no difference right? So why bother with the Impulse app at all? For antiquated games like this, there is no point to even using the Impulse client, if I'm reading your response correct.
Maybe to buy and download software in one place? DRM restricts you to play only when you are logged on to DRM servers and it's form of copy protection for a product. It ensures you have a legal copy of it. Impulse allows you to buy and download software. It doesn't require you to be connected to any server to play the game and it's not part of any copy protection. If you can't see the difference here then you apparently have no idea what DRM or access control is. If Impulse had DRM, you wouldn't be able to PLAY it without being logged on to Impulse servers. Steam is form of DRM. Impulse isn't.
Okay, then answer my question: Why do we need the application, period? GoG allows me to download all my stuff in one place too, without proprietary software.
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It's not too hard to understand the dirty little secret here: Stardock, Steam and others wants to make money through advertising. This becomes especially transparent when it sells old-school games like Age of Wonders, when there is no logical benefit to the customer by using their software.
Please tell me you are kidding me. You are accusing a company of advertising as if that is a crime and not NORMAL PRACTICE OF ALL COMPANIES ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. I mean, how dare they advertise anything and actually try to sell more of their products. After this I'd say you are trolling, and wasting my time.
Still waiting on my answer...
Edit: Nevermind, you've answered it.
You admit that this is the reason to buy AoW from Impulse. Well, if it's of no real benefit to me, and it's just to line their pockets, then no thank you.
1) It didn't require ownership of AoW 2
2) Was sold as a stand-alone game
3) No reference was made to it being billed as an "expansion"
:: Age of Wonders: Shadow Magic ::http://www.triumphstudios.com/shadowmagic/features.php
Age of Wonders: Shadow Magic takes the acclaimed fantasy strategy series to new heights. This new stand-alone game enhances the series' praised fusion of empire building, role-playing and tactical combat with the following features
GoG requires an internet browser. The internet browser is free, but must be installed to receive delivery of games and updates. It too is a form of DRM (based on how you are defining the term). If you don't have an internet browser, you can't get at the games. GoG doesn't have any ads on their website, I imagine. Its probably just a somewhat blank web page where you can't see anything but a link to a download. Surely they don't advertise other games on their website. These are pretty silly, annoying arguments, no? Its apparently ok to use this form of "DRM" as long as the "DRM" works with an app you already have installed. If you are required to install another application, well, that's about the most horrible thing I've ever heard, but you are certainly entitled to your opinion.
Side note, and I do apologize, but what is this thread about again? "Age of Wonders Makes it Way to Impulse." Maybe start your own thread on this topic instead of derailing an announce thread (that many of us are excited about) to go on about how you'd rather not have to install impulse to purchase and download games from SD.
I picked up the trilogy a few minutes ago. Glad you SD folks got this up and running for weekend. Thanks!
Huh? How exactly are they making money through advertising?
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