Welcome to the 2nd Demigod community tournament (Pacov's Last Stand) - rules and registration thread!
UPDATE 1: The scheduling thread has been opened. Please head over there and post when you are available to play: http://forums.impulsedriven.com/399006
UPDATE 2: A new version of uberfix is available AND is required for the tournament. Please see here and download/install: http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399037
UPDATE 3: The RESULTS thread has been opened. Please head over there to track your wins/losses/replays: http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399047
Update 4: Registration is now closed. Alternates are still allowed, but no new teams will be allowed to register at this point.
Update 5: Added ventrilo (voice chat) server information for those of you that would like to use voice chat. It also helps in finding people that are ready to play their matches!
Update 6: The replay commentaries/discussions thread has been opened: http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399150. Check this thread out for news on live streaming events during the tournament along with commentaries and video for some of the games in this tournament!
This thread will cover all of the relevant rules and registration information. Please see below for all of the details.
The tournament began on 10/16/2010. Please be aware that this tournament will not begin and end on 10/16/2010. It will actually take several weeks to complete.
Background
In April 2010, we started our first community demigod tournament. The tournament was 2v2 and certain demigod selections were restricted. The tourney carried a crash prize donated by people in the community and was won by the two man team of zen_god and King_of_thorns. For more details on that tourney, read up here: (http://forums.demigodthegame.com/380837).
Tournament Format
Tournament Rules
Alternates
Prize
There will be a cash prize > $600. Jongalt will be handling the collection of the money for this tournament. We are discussing the prize money in this linked thread: http://forums.demigodthegame.com/398009. We appreciate any contributions to the prize. YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PAY TO PLAY IN THIS TOURNEY.
Here is how we will be splitting the winnings from the pot:
Demigod Selection
Each 3 man team must use the following formula to make their Demigod character selections based on a 7 point maximum. Be aware that no duplicate demigods are permitted on the same team. This means you cannot choose random.
Tournament Time Zone
The official time zone of the tournament is set for EST US time. Players that are outside of that timezone are certainly welcome to play. However, if there are significant scheduling difficulties due to players unable meet at the same time, the team furthest outside of the EST zone will most likely be disqualified or forfeit that match. This rule does not excuse folks in the EST zone from any responsibility. All parties in this tournament should endeavor to schedule their matches with other teams and try to be as flexible as possible.
Decision Making Panel
This tournament will be governed by a decision making panel consisting of pacov, McShane, hedgie with Jongalt as an alternate. The panel's purpose is as follows:
The panel's decision on all matters will be the final word for this tournament. And last, the members of the decision making panel will not make any decisions on the games they are playing in. We didn't have a panel in place for the first tournament and that was a mistake.
How will we handle crashes
If there is a game crash, the players involved in that match should see if they can come to a consensus on the probable outcome of the match. If there is no clear winner, the 2 teams should replay the match using the exact same demigods and sides (light/dark). If there was a clear winner at that point in the game, then that team should be awarded the win. If the 2 teams disagree on the outcome, then the decision making panel will review the replay of the match and render a decision. Be aware that the decision making panel must agree that a specific team was going to win or the results will be thrown out and the match redone. Please be thoughtful if you want the panel to review a match.
How we will handle invalid game states
The lastgamereplay file is still created in the event of an invalid game state, so it is still possible to review the results of a match. In the event of an invalid game state, players should attempt to resolve the issue exactly the same way as game crashes. If you believe foul play occurred, submit the replay along with any screen shots, etc, as evidence and the decision making panel will review. If there is a CLEAR consensus that a team is willingly triggering invalid game states, that team will be disqualified after a thorough review of the facts and will no longer be able to participate in the tournament. If your game does crash, it might be advisable to take a screen shot of the crash as proof. Be aware that we know invalid game states can occur without any sort of foul play, so please be mindful when submitting requests for review.
Current Teams:
Registered Alternates:
Please be aware that other players are elligible to be an alternate based on the rules outlined in the alternates section. I've simply left this list here so teams will know at least a few of the players that might be available as alternates.
For any of you that would like to use it, we have a public ventrilo (voice chat) server that you are welcome to use for the tournament. Even if you don't have a microphone, if only 1 person on your team does, it can be very useful to use voice chat (at least 11 of the registered teams will be using voice chat. Why not you too?
Here's all of the info you need to get started:
Here is where you can download the client (its free): http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php
Here are instructions on how to use ventrilo to connect to a server: http://www.ventrilo.com/setup.php
And here's the needed server info:
Server Name: Lagwar's Ventrilo ServerHostname: oxygen.typefrag.com Port: 50216
I have created some password protected channels for those of you that would like to use the server. Scroll down until you see channel Oh My Demigod. You will then see tournament channel 1/2/3. The password for these channels are demigod. Let me know if you have any questions.
well... if enough people keep chiming in, sure... votes are cool. We'll have to count them up again. I'll add u to the list dark.
I will loan you two my Mithrandar unless zen plus somebody will have him. Orcun and I have formed our team; and he was unfortunately the odd guy out because it was arranged months ago in the event of a 3 vs 3 tournament, which nobody thought would actually happen. I'm sure Hedgie's 5 GB internet will be fine, I don't think gaming is too bad for using up cap space, it's video streaming and torrents that do most of the damage.
Announcing our first committed team that I know of: Soccer - Cow - Pacov.
Background info - here's pacov's mind. I don't mind being honest (as I lie so much in community vent) and hope any of you folks involved don't mind too much. I hadn't officially locked down a team. Through my pugging, I've locked down MANY options, but honestly, no one that I think can beat a team of tier 1s. I saw nom's invite for me, jon, nom. I thought - jon will need to be oak to be competitive. We will have a less flexible team. So I think, odds are against us vs all tier 1 team based on our demigod restrictions that will likely be in place (35% or so in my mind to win). So I think, what options do I have. I check out cow to see what he has going on. He's talking about a team of soccer/cow/pete. Pete says fug it, find someone else. I say, cool. Team = pacov/soccer/cow is born. And we have a team that can likely roll against an all tier 1 team. I think I have the most unpredicatable team possible. If you've played with me, I play hyper aggressive, conservative, etc. Sometimes with poop effects - sometimes with VERY successful results. Cow plays ooze beast. I mean - c'mon. Who does that and wins. And yet - he does. Then there is soccer. Solid player without much insanity. In short - it should be hard to predict what will happen. It could be terrible failure, but also big time success. I very much expect exciting games against whoever the top teams will be.
So - what other teams do we have, you lazy bastards. Form up. Pm. Chat on vent. Give me 1 or 2 more 3 man squads.
Side note - I don't really want to complicate this needlessly, but I think I and many of the tier 1 folks would be more than happy to ALSO join up with the other teams that are needing someone. We would take no additional point standing for the games and improve the odds of those folks doing well... Of course, in a round robin, that causes a problem when we have to fight against ourselves (but perhaps we could simply call that a bi-game. But if we go that route, it gives us more incentive to kick ass on the teams we join to hurt the top players even though we are fighting other tier 1 teams at a handicap. To me, that's a win win. More fun for us - and more competitive fun for the tier 1 players. The only real way we screw ourselves is that if somehow one of our alt teams ends up fighting us in the finals. If that happened, we could always declare an alternate before the tourney started and have them play for us.
3rd = ?
Edit - updated the op based on the latest info. Jon - I'll keep handling the organizational stuff for a little bit longer, then will hand if off to you and you will be the official chairman of this tourney (having the last word unless you set up a committee, etc, to help with decisions on this or that. I'll get you a nice framework in place though to make it ez.
Edit edit - you might want to think about getting people to help you as it was a lot of work for me last time. Consider that brackets have to be made, someone has to collect the money before the tourney starts and distribute it to the winner, if a match needs reviewed, someone has to review it, etc. You can do it all yourself, but you might be best off coming up with a few folks that you consider somewhat unbiased to make decisions or trustworthy folks to handle the money, etc.
Jon - would you mind going back through the last 3 pages and coming up with the current total votes and votes pending? If you get a chance of course... I think we might need to wait until Sun to decide the final vote at this rate.
We went out and recruited that Defender_ guy who has been getting a lot of buzz lately.
hah - nice. That should be a good team! I will list your team with defender as a teammate when I publish current teams in the op.
Guys - MAKE YOUR TEAMS!!!
edit - there are still quite a few VERY talented folks out there to snag up. Strongly suggest you start pming and recruiting. If they don't have a team right now, they are looking for 1!
Can count me in. I dont have paypal or what not but im sure can figure something out . Pretty sure will be me, general G and stiffy G
can we start a betting pool? Need a bookie. I have insider information.
Hey Pacov,
Can we maybe get the OP highlighted/ color-coded with the teams that are set so that those of us looking for a third or are currently solo can see who is available to recruit?
Thanks.
Done.
Oh NOES renz mcshane and orcun!??!?!?!?!!?
Defender_, mcshane and orcun, you insult me by not even paying attention when you're quoting my posts? What am I a monkey? What am I clown!? Do I amuse you?
OMG i'm getting backstabbed and betrayed left and right, first Thundercrap then Cheesov, but my time will come, and i shall have my revenge, kill bill style !!!!!
Seriously, Hedgie, you need to make up your mind girl, and decide wether you're participating or not, there's three of us here trying to form a team you know .
BTW, mysterious Defender plays from Germany (handy opengames.asp ), so unless Renz has moved there from Serbia...
Another very good player from Germany was Celmare so it could be him, just throwing that out there.......
Ahhh you deductive scoundrel!
you are strange folks...
Arg, work is getting in the way of real life, will respond later lol
Meh, screw work and real life, it's nerd DemiGod life that matters......
Edit: Could have the greekman Morphy moved to Germany too? He said he left DG for good though, and he seemed a man of his word. Hmmmmmmm, the plot thickens......
Well... zen_god retired You still haven't really figured out who defender is yet...
just in case you guys wonder about me I said:
"I will lurk around in the forums and see if something new is happening. The only thing that might bring me back is another tournament."
You realize that this entire tournament was an elaborate ruse to get you playing again. There really is no tournament. Sucka.
lol that would be a funny conspiracy theory
PM me if you want me on your team.
Votes are in End Result: Form Your Own 3-person Teams and get them registered!
Registration Cutoff: 10/3/10 11:59pm
Vote Tallies:
No: Orcun Zen Chiefy Baddaddy Jongalt McShane Nomilarac Cowbutt Mithrander Thundercles Bloodowl Volen Defender (assumed) (18 votes)
Yes: Pacov Yeahneil LordOrion Teseer Pangea Darkliath (8 votes)
Have not heard from: ruiprsg StiffyG generalG beastmode (4 votes)
Based on the votes above (and in agreement with Pacov) I think we can go ahead and close out this discussion. If a bunch of people catch wind of the tournament this weekend and want to vote we can revisit it if necessary. Although i doubt that will happen at all lol.
I've also set a preliminary registration cut-off date. I would like to give teams 2 weekends to get sorted out. If you guys want an extension we can do that, i'm just throwing the date up there as a place holder.
Secondary Tourney
It would be great that we could do a draft tourney immediately following this tourney. For the people that voted Yes - it won't hurt to play in this tourney, it will be fun. We'll also try to accomodate your wishes and come up with a game plan for a point system / draft system for the next one. Perhaps a pantheon like system if pantheon worked the way we'd want it to lol That will be challenging though due to the complexity.
the tournament is set for EST US time. For those that are outside of the timezone we certianly welcome you to play. However if there are significant scheduling difficulties and it is due to the timezone differences, the team furthest outside of the EST time zone will most likely be DQ'd. If you pretend you are from Korea then you accept their timezone hehehe
Decision making panel: I nominate Pacov, McShane & Hedgie with Lord Orion as an alternate (should one of those 3 not want the responsibility or aren't available) These 4 folks have been involved with the discussion the most, they are on separate teams, and represent both the sides of the Draft versus no Draft vote. They are also all very experienced players and have been around for a long time. I can step in if necessary but nominating oneself isn't cool lol.
The decision making panel will be responsible for:
1. Reviewing any scheduling issues and making the final decision to DQ
2. Reviewing questionable replays if necessary.
3. Any disputes that arise.
4. Anything else that can be added here lol.
The panel's decision would final on all issues.
This is also a non-voting issue. If the 4 guys above don't mind accepting the responsibility please respond with a yes and we'll roll with that.
GET THE WORD OUT!
If you're playing another game, it wouldnt hurt to load demigod up in the background, host a password protected game, and for the lobby name, advertise the tournament. There's a lot of good players out there that would probably be interested but don't troll on the forums like we do.
Replay Commentary. Anyone interested in doing an SC2 style replay commentary for the great games? Would anyone even watch them lol? (I can provide software to capture the game in video format, and audio)
Tournament Name: I would like the name of the tournament to have Pacov's name in it. For a lot of us, Pacov has helped us understand and learn the game. He has been a huge help for the community: getting folks to join lagwars, balancing teams for "fight nights", willingness to play with anyone, interfacing the community with Stardock and getting responses from Brad etc. So i say lets raise our Pints (preferable Newcastle Brown Ale, or Samuel Smiths Oatmeal Stout) and give a toast to Pacov for all the things he's done.
Pacov's Last Stand Tournament Huzzzzaaaahhhh
Tournament Finances
Send your money to me muuhahahahahahaha. Pacov is a known trustworthy source but i don't want to saddle him with the work of messing with it. PM me and i will send you my paypal account info or a mailing address or something to help make it happen.
Submission of the money. I would prefer if you send the money to me via paypal. I'll upload my commitment to paypal and will leave all of the money there for distribution after the tournament. I would prefer to send the winnings out via paypal as well. If you don't have a paypal account then you could use a friends with someone on your team who does have one and will send you the cash. Otyher options include moneygram, 2-day fed-ex or something. The fees for sending would come out of your winnings. Paypal accounts are free and make life a lot easier. If you don't have an account just go set one up now. We'll worry about currency exchange if we need to in the future.
Balance of what needs to be determined:
We'll tackle these one by one.
Current List of Demigod Selections:
Nomilaracs Suggestion:
1 - Rook, Ereb, UB, Oak
2- Sedna, Occulus, TB, QoT
3- Reg, DA
Choose 3. Your sum must be at least 5. (so Rook, Oak, Reg is legal)
Orcuns suggestion:
1-DA.
2-Reg.
3-Qot,TB.
4-Sedna,Occulus.
5-Oak,Le.
6-Rook,Ub.
And the total amount of point that can be used to make the team is 13.
Cowbutts Suggestion
1-DA Reg.
And the total amount of point that can be used to make the team is 13
Please submit your suggestions or alternates to these suggestions by midnight sunday. We'll then vote on these suggestions starting on Monday and ending one Weds.
Side note - I think chiefy/bad daddy/orion would make a fun team. Just my 2 cents. You've got to force orion to stop playing his crazy town mod so he remembers how standard dg plays though
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