Welcome to the 2nd Demigod community tournament (Pacov's Last Stand) - rules and registration thread!
UPDATE 1: The scheduling thread has been opened. Please head over there and post when you are available to play: http://forums.impulsedriven.com/399006
UPDATE 2: A new version of uberfix is available AND is required for the tournament. Please see here and download/install: http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399037
UPDATE 3: The RESULTS thread has been opened. Please head over there to track your wins/losses/replays: http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399047
Update 4: Registration is now closed. Alternates are still allowed, but no new teams will be allowed to register at this point.
Update 5: Added ventrilo (voice chat) server information for those of you that would like to use voice chat. It also helps in finding people that are ready to play their matches!
Update 6: The replay commentaries/discussions thread has been opened: http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399150. Check this thread out for news on live streaming events during the tournament along with commentaries and video for some of the games in this tournament!
This thread will cover all of the relevant rules and registration information. Please see below for all of the details.
The tournament began on 10/16/2010. Please be aware that this tournament will not begin and end on 10/16/2010. It will actually take several weeks to complete.
Background
In April 2010, we started our first community demigod tournament. The tournament was 2v2 and certain demigod selections were restricted. The tourney carried a crash prize donated by people in the community and was won by the two man team of zen_god and King_of_thorns. For more details on that tourney, read up here: (http://forums.demigodthegame.com/380837).
Tournament Format
Tournament Rules
Alternates
Prize
There will be a cash prize > $600. Jongalt will be handling the collection of the money for this tournament. We are discussing the prize money in this linked thread: http://forums.demigodthegame.com/398009. We appreciate any contributions to the prize. YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PAY TO PLAY IN THIS TOURNEY.
Here is how we will be splitting the winnings from the pot:
Demigod Selection
Each 3 man team must use the following formula to make their Demigod character selections based on a 7 point maximum. Be aware that no duplicate demigods are permitted on the same team. This means you cannot choose random.
Tournament Time Zone
The official time zone of the tournament is set for EST US time. Players that are outside of that timezone are certainly welcome to play. However, if there are significant scheduling difficulties due to players unable meet at the same time, the team furthest outside of the EST zone will most likely be disqualified or forfeit that match. This rule does not excuse folks in the EST zone from any responsibility. All parties in this tournament should endeavor to schedule their matches with other teams and try to be as flexible as possible.
Decision Making Panel
This tournament will be governed by a decision making panel consisting of pacov, McShane, hedgie with Jongalt as an alternate. The panel's purpose is as follows:
The panel's decision on all matters will be the final word for this tournament. And last, the members of the decision making panel will not make any decisions on the games they are playing in. We didn't have a panel in place for the first tournament and that was a mistake.
How will we handle crashes
If there is a game crash, the players involved in that match should see if they can come to a consensus on the probable outcome of the match. If there is no clear winner, the 2 teams should replay the match using the exact same demigods and sides (light/dark). If there was a clear winner at that point in the game, then that team should be awarded the win. If the 2 teams disagree on the outcome, then the decision making panel will review the replay of the match and render a decision. Be aware that the decision making panel must agree that a specific team was going to win or the results will be thrown out and the match redone. Please be thoughtful if you want the panel to review a match.
How we will handle invalid game states
The lastgamereplay file is still created in the event of an invalid game state, so it is still possible to review the results of a match. In the event of an invalid game state, players should attempt to resolve the issue exactly the same way as game crashes. If you believe foul play occurred, submit the replay along with any screen shots, etc, as evidence and the decision making panel will review. If there is a CLEAR consensus that a team is willingly triggering invalid game states, that team will be disqualified after a thorough review of the facts and will no longer be able to participate in the tournament. If your game does crash, it might be advisable to take a screen shot of the crash as proof. Be aware that we know invalid game states can occur without any sort of foul play, so please be mindful when submitting requests for review.
Current Teams:
Registered Alternates:
Please be aware that other players are elligible to be an alternate based on the rules outlined in the alternates section. I've simply left this list here so teams will know at least a few of the players that might be available as alternates.
For any of you that would like to use it, we have a public ventrilo (voice chat) server that you are welcome to use for the tournament. Even if you don't have a microphone, if only 1 person on your team does, it can be very useful to use voice chat (at least 11 of the registered teams will be using voice chat. Why not you too?
Here's all of the info you need to get started:
Here is where you can download the client (its free): http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php
Here are instructions on how to use ventrilo to connect to a server: http://www.ventrilo.com/setup.php
And here's the needed server info:
Server Name: Lagwar's Ventrilo ServerHostname: oxygen.typefrag.com Port: 50216
I have created some password protected channels for those of you that would like to use the server. Scroll down until you see channel Oh My Demigod. You will then see tournament channel 1/2/3. The password for these channels are demigod. Let me know if you have any questions.
Ok - Jon is replacing Lord_Orion as the alternate judge on the decision making panel. Updated the OP. If you are a part of the decision making panel, head over to the panel discussion thread http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399332 as we will be discussing how to handle disqualifications today/tomorrow. Deadline to get at least 6 games in is tonight at 11:59PM EST.
As a reminder to anyone that's actually trying to get their games in, you need to post in the scheduling thread.
ok guys - the decision making panel has discussed how we are handling disqualifications and he's what we have come up with.
Ok - I'm on board for that. So the final ruling is to disqualify these teams immediately. The reason we are disqualifying these teams is because it appears that they no longer have any intent to play in the tournament as its been > 2 weeks since the tourney started and these teams have not made any attempt to schedule their games or utilize the scheduling thread.
We will give...
...until Wednesday to respond with some sort of indication that they are planning on playing (I'm not entirely sure why we are making an exception for these guys, but I don't oppose)
All other teams that have played at least 1 game or indicated that they will play/have some scheduling conflicts will be put on probation.
Here are the rules for probation
If you are the disqualified list and still wanted to participate, please respond here asap and tell us when this week you'll be getting your games in. Folks like robert might think we are singling him out, but his team is really welcome to play - they just haven't made any visible effort to get their games in.
For all that aren't familiar with what's been going on, we had a rule that all teams must get in 6 games in week 1. MANY teams did not meet that goal, so we extended the deadline an extra week. We are now in week 3 and looking to dq any team that clearly does not want to participate. Anyway, there you have it. If you aren't list above and do not have 6 games in, you are on probation. If you do not catch up during this week (or make it clear that you are trying your best to get games in), you will be dq'd.
uick link
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aigfc3ELO5bcdEtmZ3dXWE40MWlFVHRGR0I2WXZCN0E&authkey=CLzEn7oC&hl=en#gid=0
All teams that have less than 6 games have been added to the probation list.
These teams have been DQ'd:
please let me know if any further corrections need to be made.
j
We need to discuss the latest round of dq's over in the decision making panel thread.
I'll post here re: dq's once that's finalized.
Rawrrr/jona/kalel are picking up hedgie as an alternate for their team as kalel is nowhere to be found.
Yeah, it doesn't look like it is happening for us. We all seem to be available different nights. I also started a three-week graduate course yesterday which is going to probably take up all my non-working/sleeping time.
sorry to hear that. So is that an official "We are out of the tourney" message?
Unfortunately, yes, it is.
I hate to have to do it, but we're just not getting our games in, and I think it is just going to get harder for the next few weeks. I hate to bail on something like this, but I'd rather do that than put you guys through the annoyance of putting us on probation, taking us off, putting us on, and then finally booting us in a couple of weeks.
I'm very sorry, but our team will no longer be able to continue this tournament.
I've been experiencing lag related issues and random DCs lately. Trying to play during Alumni Night and lagging badly in a 3v3 on the connection I can usually count on to play relatively lag free 4v4s was the last straw.
Trying to schedule our team has been kind of frustrating to say the least since we live in three complete different parts of the world. When we do get a night together to play, and line up a team to play against just to have me lag things up is extremely trying.
Before agreeing to participate in this tourney, I thought my connection would be able to handle it, but thats unfortunately changed and I can no longer continue. My apologies to everyone. Please feel free to look up Jong or Nomi if you need a alternate to fill in.
Thunder tries to steal all of the credit lol !!!
After discussions amongst the 3 of us the only viable conclusion was to drop from the tourney. Not all of it was related to Thunders lag
The time shift also had a negative effect. This changed me (EST) to 5 hours time difference to Thunder but 7 hours to Nomilarac (EU). My availability is typically from 9pm -12am EST (due to kids, work etc.) which equates to 4am for nom and 4pm for Thunder.
Also, as thunder mentioned, for him to get the typically good connection he is referring to, he has to make a 5 hour round trip drive.
So you guys can see we were faced with some significant logistical hurdles and it's amazing that we got more than zero games in lol.
Nom & Thunder - great games brothers! I had a blast playing with you guys and discussing strategy! Definitely one of the highlights of my Very long online gaming career.
(I started online gaming when you's whipper snappers we're in diapers - my first graphical online game was netrek on Sun Unix SPARCstations and played alot of MUD's before that back in '92. This was when the WWW component of the net was a joke but i digress
Anyways.... For there are teams out there that are being DQ'd or are on probation - do you typically have 1 player who just can't make the matches? I would love to be an alternate for your team!
Baddaddy? MAxsteel ?
thanks
Sorry to hear that Thunder.
At any rate, here are the list's of DQ's, etc, as agreed upon by the decision making panel.
Disqualifications the panel agrees on
Teams going on probation instead of dq
Special consideration
well since its the cool thing to do, I think ill drop from the tourney.
and now I am back in!
Once you drop you can't re-enter
bwwahahahahaha
If you want to try and play with Trouser and Chiefy, they'd probably love to have you... but you'd have to do all the coordinating, since they are both the, "Sure, whatever you say," types. If you are interested, let me know. Not sure how the rules committee will feel though...
It's fine by me.
Ok - panel is agreed - jon - you can join whatever team you want as an alt.
I've literally played hundreds of games with trouser
Please let chiefy know and i'll hit up trouser.
Thanks Pacov/shane/hedgie.
spreadsheet has been updated
For the teams that left or were DQ':
If they played games I put an an A (win) or B (loss) in the columns as place holders for the teams that played against them.
J
maybe we can get cow/soccer/pac v jon/chief/trouser tonight. I won't be able to check with trouser until after work tho.
FYI - there are good odds that for the final 4 portion of our tournament we will be using an updated version of uberfix that corrects a few more problems and completely blocks out the other teams gold values. Just a heads up.
It's comforting to know that Soccer-mom and Rawrr only have 2000 gold when Renz buys Bulwark though OHHH!
pffffffffffffft... he bought bulwark when I had 10k.
Lol so is this thing still going on or what? Pacov and Zen, 4Nana and Darkliath? Only one match to play before the finals, I know you wanna do it!
I want, however... haven't seen my teammates for ~2 weeks...
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