I agree with 4Nana here.  The modding system isn't completely intuitive.  Here's how it works.  Whoever is hosting a game hosts with uberfix version 27 (for example).  Because the HOST loaded up uberfix 27, that is the EXACT version of uberfix that will be used in the game.  Normally, no one else can join unless they have that mod installed.  Sometimes, its possible to join a game like I mentioned with a previous version of uberfix installed.  If that happens, the game WILL result in a critical error when demigod attempts to confirm that everyone is using the same game changed mods (this is a feature that keeps me from creating a mod where I start with 1,000,000 gold and everyone else starts with nothing).  Anyway, we've seen this in the past when users have differing versions of a mod.  Once EVERYONE has exactly the same version, then the critical errors are gone. 

I think I might simply things by creating a new version of uberfix and repackaging it and giving it a brand new UID.  That should resolve any confusion.  I asked the folks that maintain the uberfix mod to provide an updated version and update their post, but they haven't been available for sometime - so I'll likely just handle things myself.  In the meantime, just do a simple test.  Delete any version of uberfix you have installed.  Have 3 of your buds download the latest version of the mod from here:  http://code.google.com/p/uberfix/downloads/detail?name=UberFixv103_RC2.zip&can=2&q=

Have 3 of your buds install the mod (technically only the host needs to install it).  Host a password protected game.  Have the 3 buds join and launch.  If you experience a crash, please post here. 

Fun side note - it MIGHT be possible to get trousersnake69 back for this tournament.  Maybe not, but maybe.  For those that don't remember, he's a tier 1 player and quite good.  He hasn't played since the last tourney, but perhaps could be persuaded into coming back.  If not, I'm going to keep bugging him for a bit to see if he's willing to start playing some dg again.  Nice guy. 

edit - I brought this up with a few of the guys in vent, but we were thinking about trying to do some live broadcasts each week of a few high level games including some live commentary.  The folks I talked to sounded somewhat excited about that, so it may very well happen.  So, we'd announce the players in a specific game in advance, announce a start time, and then provide a link where everyone could watch the game live and get some commentary.  Likely, either 4nana or I will be providing the commentary for these games unless we are actually participating in them.  Anyway, I think it will be fun.  We will likely have to try this out before the tourney starts, so stay tuned to this thread and we will likely post a link sometime over the next few days with an example game for you fellas to watch. 

I have a concern with the new rule regarding having to play 2 matches a week.  It shouldn't be a problem in theory, but I would like to have it a set number of games, lets say 4-5, rather than matches.

Our team literally has a 12 hour time difference so we might be able to get 1-2 games in with another team but then have one of our members will have to go to sleep, go to work, go pray to Mecca... whatever it is, we'll need to play the rest of the games in our match another day.

I don't think our team will be the only one that will have to play some matches on different days, and I'd rather not we all have to beg the tourney commissioners for time extensions even though we're playing plenty of games, just against different teams.

I'm going to make a big effort to play as many matches per week as possible, and have informed my girlfriend that she's going to feel the back of the pimp hand if she bothers me about it... but it is going to aggravate me a bit if people give my team grief if I'm not available for two matches the week my sister is visiting.

Tracking the games won't be a problem at all even if full matches aren't complete.  I might be able to get the spreadsheet done today for the tracking.  I'll most likely do it in google docs so it can be viewed by others.

However, with that said, if we set the minimum to 4 games per week it will take 12 weeks for the tournament to end, assuming that people only play 4 games per week.  Personally i don't think 6 games per week is out of the questions.  That's 2 games a night for 3 nights. If only 6 games are played each week then it would take 8 weeks to complete.  With that said, i wouldn't be surprised if there is a 50% drop-out rate. 

Maybe we should set a 50% completion date and a 100% completion date.  This would allow time for the holiday's and flexibility of games.  Your sister is coming to visit so your game time will be limited, therefore with a percentage completion date these games could be made up before & after that visit.  I think a lot of players will face similar problems. 

I propose an eight week schedule. 

50% completion by Monday November 15th

100% completion by Monday December 13th. 

Personally i would rather see the 100% completion or uncontestable top 4 teams by Friday December 10th that way the top 4 teams can complete the playoffs by Monday December 20th.  This way they get a nice Christmas bonus.  I would also suggest these as "maximum" dates and would urge everyone to complete earlier.  If so then the playoffs can be moved up as necessary.  I also wouldn't set 50% completion as a Hard Number, this means if you are at say 45% completion then your teams situation can be reviewed by the panel of judges where they will determine if a team should be removed from the tourney. The final decision would be up to the panel obviously.

How does that sound?

j

Pacov:  I get that this is the sort of thing the panel is for, but I think the less arbitrary things are the better.  This sorta thing just bothers me, like a ridiculously low speed limit that you're not supposed to worry about because the police won't pull you over unless you go over it a certain amount.  How much faster do you have to go before you get a ticket?  Oh, you'll find out when you get the ticket...

Jongalt:  Yeah, I was thinking 4-5 games minimum on an off week, but I like your benchmark system better.  There will be plenty of teams available to play early, so we could just take a look November 15th and see if there are some teams that just aren't into it and are holding things up.

I'm not necessarily opposed to the idea of alternates as long as they are not currently participating the in tournament.  It would be up to the team utilizing an alternate to determine how much that alternate should get as a payout if that team ends up in the money.  I suppose on the down side, it could be used like calling in a pinch hitter - and that could give another team an unfair advantage over a team that doesn't have an alternate, but I personally don't think that its really a big deal.  Anyone all that opposed to this? 

At any rate, we won't be randomly assigning alternates to teams from people that have registered and have not been able to form a team.  There won't be any random assignments, period.  Players are still responsible for forming their own teams.  I know a few people have been looking for a good third and haven't been able to sort things out.  I also assume that several folks that have registered haven't made much/if any attempt to form teams.  And it stands to reason that those folks would be highly unlikely to get in 6 matches a week if they can't even form a team in 2-3 weeks. 

Please - if you have already registered and do not have a time - start PMing folks in the forum, whatever you need to do, and get a team formed up. Remember - registration closes tomorrow at midnight and all of the folks without a partner will be out of the tournament (unless we adopt the alternate rule - which, I suppose, we HAVE to finalize today). 

edit - and I'd still like to have several folks commit to some specific times on Saturday that they will be ready to play in a game.  It would be a great way to kick off the tourney if several of us are around at X time and ready to get some games in with whoever happens to be available. 

Looking for a team.

Can any of the players with no team or group of 2 PM me.

we'd like to register as a team: ME, Shred_Demon, and pangea__2

Lol you accidentally put me on team 3 also Jon.

We should probably add a rule about alternate accounts just to have something in the rules.  Kind of obnoxious if some of the alternates are just guys from another team. 

Ok - so I really doubt there will be much opposition to having alternates (especially based on baddaddy's points listed above - should help people with scheduling conflicts to keep the tourney moving right along). 

So the rules for alternates will be as follows:

• Each team is allowed to have exactly 1 alternate
• The alternate must not be participating in the tournament (either directly registered for the tournament or on a duplicate account). 
• The same alternate cannot be used by multiple teams
• If a team wins a cash prize with an alternate on their team, that team must determine how they will handle the prize money.  The decision making panel has nothing to do with how you choose to split up the money.  

Anything I should add?  Any objections?

When should we have the cut off date for registering an alternate to a team?  Should we have a cut off date?

I'm thinking through a scenario...

Let's say my team might not require an alternate to get our games in, so I don't sign one up now.  If I do sign one up and he plays and we win some money, he gets a cut.  If I sign someone up and he doesn't play, then he won't have the opportunity to play for another team (but probably still deserves some sort of cut of the winnings).  Let's say somewhere down the road, someone on my team can no longer player for whatever reason - are we screwed because we might not have an alternate?   Just some thoughts.

I don't think there should be a cutoff date.. also I think if a team falls apart, it shouldn't prohibit one of the people on that team who still wants to play to play as an alternate.  So.. for example.. say soccer and cow decided "fuck it.. I'd rather play SC2 and stop doin the tourney" .. you should still be allowed to be an alternate on another team after that point.

Yes, those are the details that I forgot to mention in my case for alternates in the first place. It certainly should be up to the team to decide how to split the money; some alternates may play a lot, some may not.

Also, I can *tentatively say Chiefy, Lord_Orion and I can play a match starting around 10pm EST Saturday. I just have to confirm with Orion.