Just curious, have you started a new game or continued a previous one?

This is not good if our game breaks every time an update is released because we are using mods.  It's easy to find the culprit now since there are so few mods, but when we have dozens installed down the road we're going to be screwed.

Yes, there is a way around it.  Because with any other game that supported "modding", the developers have kept mods and the core game engine independent from one another.  I can throw a hundred mods into Morrowind, Oblivion or Civ 4 and never have conflicts with updates.

That's the whole point of modding, especially with a game like Elemental which supports modding tools to an unprecedented degree.  What you do is you allow people to dump files in a special folder that doesn't interfere or break with core files.  In other words, it is okay if the mods break for updates, but it's not okay for the game to break.

What you're saying is that I have to delete all of my mods every other week before I get an update from Stardock.  And considering that Frogboy has promised frequent updates for the next few years, that sounds quite ridiculous to me.

Unfortunately, raceconfigs are the excemption.

Edit: Actually, I'm lying. I haven't tested many others. So I really have no idea.

A truly amazing mod! Incredible work.

Hey does this work  with fridays update? Great work by the way Icecrown.

lol Yeap...I saw his animations and didn't realize I had the files still in place...oops. I thought one of the devs said something a while back about putting these in the vanilla game though so I figured maybe they were added. My bad. Sorry for getting your hopes up if you saw that Icecrown. I notice some of the damage modifiers went screwy with the last update and hotfix. I'm going to try re-adding your mod now and see if it works right but if not they might have changed something in the XML which means we might have to change some things in our mods if they need a hotfix too (still investigating this).

was expecting this when they announced all those changes to the spells system ^^

i will fix that but im afraid you need to remove it for now

that will rly be great, i'll give it a try, thx for the tips

I believe it is non-destructive when you place it in your My Games\Elemental folder. However, if you put it in Program Files\Elemental\Mods the changes are destructive. Since this mod only works when you put it in the \Mods folder is it destructive and modular changes won't work (: 

That's at least how I understand it. 

I don't think it works like that awuffleablehedgie. I think its just a difference between types. It ties into this https://forums.elementalgame.com/394013

Basically, if you're modifying an existing improvementtype, a raceconfig or abilitybonus, you can use the "less evil" approach and only define the tags you are actually changing. If you're changing a spelldef type, for example, you absolutely have to redefine the whole thing. Or a spellbooktype, for that matter.

I'm not sure what types this applies to, however.

Both ways of handling modifications have their merits.

The "less evil" way makes mods work with each other, which is very good. However, it is very bad when we can't remove tags from the original. Try removing <UnlocksShopItem>SaltedPork</UnlocksShopItem> from a cityhub, for example. Can't be done.

The "more evil" way makes mods not work with each other, which is very bad. However, it also allows us to completely change the way something works.

Ideally, there should be an option in the XML to define what kind the mod is, rather than a pre-defined arbitrary solution.

Anybody know if this is still compatible with 1.09?