So as I did for my previous favorite game SoaSE, I'll be scouring the web for Elemental reviews and posting them here. That way there will be a single location where we can navigate to all the reviews of the game, for easy reference.
If you happen to find one I don't post, leave a comment below it in the following format:
I hope this will be made sticky by someone from SD like my previous thread was in SoaSE.
Metacritic Average
English Reviews:
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NEOSEEKER
9/10
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Games/Reviews/elemental_war_of_magic/
Eurogamer
BIG Download
Verdict: Must Own
http://news.bigdownload.com/2010/09/07/review-elemental/
IGN
6 / 10
http://pc.ign.com/articles/111/1117649p1.html
Gameshark
C
http://www.gameshark.com/reviews/3607/p_0/Elemental-War-of-Magic-Review.htm
Gamespot
4 / 10
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/elementalwarofmagic/review.html
GamerNode
2 / 5
http://gamernode.com/reviews/9442-elemental-war-of-magic/index.html
GameInformer
6.5 / 10
http://gameinformer.com/games/elemental_war_of_magic/b/pc/archive/2010/08/31/review.aspx
Giantbomb
Rock, Paper, Shotgun
""At the moment, I think “unfinished” is too harsh a phrase. I’d lean towards “a bit shoddy”.""
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/08/30/impressions-of-elemental-war-of-magic/
Joystiq
Destructoid
PC Gamer
70 / 100
http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/09/02/elemental-war-of-magic-review/
G4 X-Play
2/5
http://g4tv.com/games/pc/63836/Elemental-War-of-Magic/review/
Shacknews
No score at this time.
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/65347
1 UP
C+
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3181116
Fidgit
"I guarantee it's not going to be like anything you'll read from any other reviewer."
hhttp://fidgit.com/archives/2010/08/elemental_the_review.php
RPGWatch
"Elemental is still 2-3 patches away from being ready for prime time. When and if those patches are done, Elemental has the potential to be one of those few games that stays on your computer for years as a fun gaming experience."
http://www.rpgwatch.com/show/article?articleid=159&ref=0&id=412
OutOfEight
5/8
http://www.outofeight.info/2010/08/elemental-war-of-magic-review.html
GameEnema
6/10
www.gameenema.com/2.shtml
GamePro
3.5/5
http://www.gamepro.com/article/reviews/216449/elemental-war-of-magic/
Non-English Reviews:
iPon
57%
http://ipon.hu/jatekok/elemental_war_of_magic_%E2%80%93_elementalis_bakloves/825/
Meristation
6.5/10
http://www.meristation.com/v3/des_analisis.php?pic=PC&id=cw4c7d415c6ed86&idj=cw4911603a40884
Gamestar
79/100
http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/elemental-war-of-magic/test/elemental_war_of_magic,44740,2317608.html
Perhaps some of the reviews are not out because the reviewers can't get the game stable enough to actually play.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6274610.html
A lot of the hardcore fans here seem to be giving these reviewers a harder time than they've earned; all of them that I've seen so far have been INCREDIBLY patient with the crashes and such, mostly because of Stardock's reputation and previous championship of the customer. It seems like they're actually going out of their way to be more lenient on this game because it's Stardock and because the game concept is so solid, that they are amending their normal reviewing processes - most games will get the majority of their reviews within the first 2 days and patches be damned. An appeal to those who get a little hot around the collar seeing anyone questioning the game: go play some more, or read a good book, and relax. People are not the bogeymen you seem to be making us all out to be, just because we are complaining about a game crashing.
Here's a youtube video review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahTehhLD5ec
The question people should be asking is ... Why do reviewers judge a game when it comes out? I believe many of these people believe that a game should be nearly complete when it comes out.
Umm... it should be nearly complete when it comes out. You kidding me? How can you even make this argument?
I love Stardock as much as the next guy, but you people need to stop drinking their kool-aid without thinking.
EDIT: I'm gonna go ahead and assume that was sarcasm but it doesn't make sense any other way.
Stardock themselves say that all gamers have the /right/ to demand a game be released in a finished state. Brad himself wrote this handy list see, of what he believes Games should be: http://gamersbillofrights.org/
The problem is, im cool with financing works in progress which i think have potential, i did it with Fallen Earth and mount and blade. But one is a MMO and the other openly stated you were paying for a beta, which would get constant updates. This is where the problem lies, i would have no problems paying for a quality beta from a company that says: look, we are a small team, we need a bit of float and input to make the game better. But thats not what stardock claimed, it says you have a right to a finished product when it ships. Well, multiplayer is out, game crashes very often for me (Sometimes 5 times per hour), i cannot access the tac battle editor without crashing, things are poorly explained about the advantages of going this or that way regarding units or tech. Its all ok with me, because i have faith that stardock will make it right, but they kinda inserted a foot in their mouth by making claims of "games should be finished when it ships" and then shipping the version we got.
They wouldnt have caught all this flak if they would have taken the Mount and blade dev road. And they would not have been left wide open for criticism which sadly is tarnishing what is a great but roughly polished game.
I am stunned the big sites have not reviewed the game yet and I dont know why. Certainly they are not waiting for the game to be playable, ie. doing Stardock a favor. I see reviews all the time that ding games for bugs, lack of polish, etc. And while it is a niche title...its not like Stardock is some unknown studio. They develop. They publish. They are not EA but they are big enough to merit week 1 reviews, or even day 1.
Yeah I have searched around, nothing yet...
Fidgit (Tom Chick's site) will be posting a review tonight, I'll link to it once its up.
That actually seems to be exactly what they're doing. See the Gamespot article linked earlier, and the PC Gamer guy actually restarting his review after the patch.
Also, they don't seem to have given out a lot of advance copies. In order for reviews to be done by the release date, reviewers will typically get copies well before that. Obviously that didn't happen.
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Actually, yes they are. Gamestop and even PCGamer have not released actual reviews, just updates about their issues and warnings for customers to hold off until further notice. I've seen these sites nail games to the wall for day 1 releases.
Tom Chick and some other reviewers seem to have had copies fairly early and could have easily hammered it to the wall.
updated, I won't be around until Sunday afternoon to update this again, till then..... godspeed!
Well, it seems Stardock's past history earned them some good will after all (and rightfully so).
But I get the feeling they're depleting their entire "Diplomatic Capital" with this release.
Future versions of this game must be stellar, or Stardock will have to rebuild its credibility from scratch.
Exactly.
Best regards,Steven.
After playing the game solidly for the past few days, and on a variety of machines, I haven't seen a single crash or major issue that makes me scream at my machine. I had a weird 'Activate your Product' thing earlier, however that's all fixed. Obviously my case is a 'best case' scenario, considering people are experincing some fairly sizeable issues.When Elemental is 'working as intended' I think it's brilliant, and a lot of fun. I think it's perhaps not as 'full' as people were hoping though. Yes, there are empty turns of nothing more than travel or research bar watching, however this stands true for nearly all games of a similar nature. Something that really annoyed me with Civilisation IV was the 'improvement spam' section of the opening turns of the game. It gave you something to do, sure... however it was boring, and just gave you more to watch. Elemental gives you quests instead, which feel better, at least to me.Personally, I think Elemental: War of Magic provides a solid foundation. It's rare to see a game try and be it's own unique thing. Obviously, it takes inspiration from obvious sources, however Elemental is simply Elemental. The A.I. is a little dumb, quests could be a bit more indepth, and new gameplay mechanics could be added in to satisfy that instant gratification itch we all have, however I'll happily give Elemental a recommendation to anyone who asks.I'd compare Elemental: War of Magic to Team Fortress 2, in terms of it's release situation. It's got some stuff, it's certainly fun, but it needs some improvement. Can't wait to see what Stardock add in, and what the modding crew can get up to. I know I'm already dreaming big!
"a lot of fun"? Really? Well, tastes do differ, and that is perhaps a good thing.
1up Review - C+ - He doesn't much like anything far as I can tell, though he does say multplayer is "robust" (wonder when he got to use it? )
Also - Tom Chick's review - "But for now, Elemental is not a game I recommend you buy. It's a game I recommend you watch." is his conclusion. The article is more optimistic though in that he clearly believes SD will wind up with a great game once the time it needs is put in. This is probably the best quote:
Shacknews has their "field report", which is not a review but reads a lot like one.
The multiplayer remark pretty much invalidates the whole review, indeed.
It is not inconceivable that SD has enabled multiplayer for reviewers.
The 1UP review is obviously fake - lazy reviewer peons no doubt. The writer cant even be bothered to take a real screenshot or actually even talk about anything that is actually in the game. It is really an unprofessional review and it reads like jaded fanboy rant.
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And most of the points made by the reviewers have been raised on this forum.
Then explain to us why on earth Stardock would give the reviewers a build that the customers do not. That actually makes things sound even fishier. If it was so robust why did it not ship that way? However, I am sticking to the notion that the review is fake; it is just so vague on EVERYTHING it is almost like a fill in the blanks form review. I think even the most jaded player of EWOM could put in more accurate specifics and even a few screenshots as even many forum posters have. It just points to sloppy unprofessionalism at its best - outright fraud at the worst.
I think the game is a mess but I will defend its right to get a fair and accurate review.
being robust for a few dozens reviews isn't the ame as robust for a full player base.
Game companies routinely ship different review code than the release code. Damn near the industry standard actually.
A review this morning went up on RPGwatch.com. I think you will find it to be positive, but blunt about the launch issues.
You should add this link: http://www.gamekult.com/tout/jeux/fiches/J000093507_test.html
It's in French, but you needn't read French to understand the 3 out of 10. Mauvais means Bad.
A few trandlated quotes:
means extremely shallow, completely without balance.
proposes more bugs than interest.
They also lambast the lack of MP and quote Brad and explain there's no risk they'd buy the game.
Means:
Pros: A few rare good ideas
Cons: It's really ugly; uninteresting campaign; very perfectible ergonomy; polishing must be remade urgently; a potpourri which doesn't equal any of its models; slow and completely unbalanced gameplay; multiplayer unavailable.
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