ok, it is BioShock in the clouds. Well...

 

you can view the trailer here:

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/12/bioshock-infinite-preview/

and there is an interview with Ken Levine, too.

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/12/video-interview-ken-levine-on-bioshock-infinite/

yeah- same crap, different package....Not to mention keeping Bioshock in the title (so that people don't go "What's that game like?): C'mon, call it Airshock or Aeroshock, not just Bioshock: Random word.

I`m actually looking forward to this as well.  I have a fear of heights and that trailer freaked me out, Should be fun.

You need to think back to 2007. It was a world where the first 3/4 of the year pretty much sucked. Bioshock was an original IP with a great setting, great characters and an amazing narrative. I'm not saying the gameplay was amazing and I'm not comparing it to System Shock 2. What other dev studios produced a game with more intellectual property creativity than Irrational did?

My gripe with BioShock was not the actual game itself. Compared to the usual FPS stupidity we are served with, BioShock is unique and thoughtful. Admittedly, it was and still is a very good game. The thing that disappointed me was the marketing. I loathed how they utilized the well deserved credits they got for System Shock 2 (unfortunately, most of it in retrospect) for a game that was basically a rehash of their past ideas and played less sophisticated in comparison. Even more deceiving was the overblown claim that they will bring never before seen AI and meaningful moral dilemmas to the plate that would change the way FPS will be played in the future. Obviously, that never happened.

I don't begrudge the success and money they got from BioShock, I recognize it as a late justice for the awesome work they delivered before, I just hoped that Ken Levine would've been able to channel his great ideas into something more out of the box.

Sounds like uncharted... in the sky.

 

UnchartedShock?

Yeah, System Shock 1/2 is up in my top top list of ultimate top lists of ultimate top items (games).

 

BioShock is on my list of "meh, pretty good I guess... for a console" games.

Wow.  Annualising Bioshock.  I expected them to at least call it something different.  Bioshock stood on it's own merits and became a very successful IP because it was simply good.  Bioshock 2 cashed in on that, and delivered a bit of an encore.  Not essential, but not terrible to the point of burning the franchise to ground... or tying balloons to it and floating it into the fucking sky, either.

Bioshock 4: Modern Warfare
Bioshock 3DS
Bioshock: Warriors of Rock
Bioshock 6: Galactic Adventures
Bioshock 7: Wings of Liberty
Bioshock Online
Bioshock IX
Bioshock X: Redemption
Bioshock X-2

Yet another good game turned into a franchise and becomes a shadow of it's former self.

Fair point, I should've used 'interating' rather than 'annualising'.
And I don't have to play it, I know exactly how it will play: it'll be a poor mix of generic run-and-gun gameplay with selectable ammo types, and under-developed 'Ability' upgrade mechanics that serve more as dot points on the back of the box than as gameplay expanding tools.

This game screams board room, cash in thinking.  "Look, this one takes place in the SKY! See, it's different from being under the Sea!".  Instead of trying to run with any kind of continual plot or story line (in this case, the pricipal character would actually have been Rapture itself and it's Character Arc) they've gone in the worst possible direction and created the Bioshock 'Formula' to milk.

[Escapist City] created by [Political Ideal] is torn assunder by conflict with [Opposite Political Ideal] from within.  [Player] enters the conflicted [Escapist City] due to [Plot Device] and must battle against the twisted Citizens of [Escapist City] to [Goal].  Player will gain [Ability Currency] to allow them to upgrade [Ability Name (like Plasmids)] to allow them to become more effective killers.
Throw in the obligatory plot twist and fetch quests, bump up the visuals a notch, whack a AU$120.00 price tag on it and you've got 'THE NEXT AMAZING BIOSHOCK GAME'.

And people wonder why Games are never taken seriously as an art form!  Every time we come close to something amazing, something that could be - one day - considered the medium's 'Citizen Kane', we get thrown sequel after sequel after spin off after re-hash until no one can cares and the original's memory is long since dead, buried, dug up, assaulted, re-buried, burnt, pissed on and then resurrected via pagen magic.

Yeah, because THAT doesn't happen in the movie industry at all.

Not terribly excited about this game. BioShock had an intriguing atmosphere, but there was no good game behind it. It was a generic shooter in a pretty wrapper. The plasmids were a nice touch, but the novelty wore off quickly

The only "thoughtful" FPS I'm looking forward to at the moment is Deus Ex: Human Revolution. If it captures the feel of the original, it'll blow everything out of the water

BioShock is far from a "landmark" game. It just got so much attention because it tried being a story-driven modern FPS instead of a plain shooter - and it did that mostly by just having you look around for old recordings. The gameplay remained a plain and generic shooter. Like I said, generic shooter in a pretty wrapper. It just stood out because none of the other games tried to focus on the atmosphere or story.