UFO's and Aliens. Do they exist? Do you think there's even a chance that there is other intelligent life in our galaxy or universe or do you think we Humans are the only intelligent life in all of creation? These are questions that we as a species, man-kind, have asked since as far as our recorded history goes back. Even Ancient man, with no knowledge of modern science or modern understanding of what "Space" was, would look to the night sky at the twinkling stars and wonder...."Are we truly alone?".
Honestly, I've always thought aliens existed. Whether or not they've actually visited this planet at any point in it's history I don't know and I don't think anyone can truly say one way or the other and have definitive proof. Of course there is probably just as much "proof" that aliens don't exist as there is that they do, but, at least we are now discovering for a Fact that there is or was "some form" of life in the universe outside of the planet Earth. We know from microscopic fossils in martian rocks that at one point millions of years ago there was at the very least Single Celled life on Mars. We found this out back in the late 90's. Didn't hear about it? That's not surprising since I only found out about it because of a 10 second mention on ABC's "World News Tonight" back in 96-97. Today how-ever you can research this for your-self as many papers and articles have been published on the subject. A quick Google Search will lead you to many results such as these:
Meteorite Yields Evidence of Primitive Life on Early Mars Source: www.solarviews.com Article from 1997
Fossil Life in Martian Rock Found in Antarctica ? Source: http://spider.seds.org/spider/Mars/Marsrock/marsrocks.html Article from 1996
Proof of Life in Three Martian Rocks May Come This Year Source: www.popsci.com Article from 2010
This is enough in my eyes to call it "Definitive Proof", they're just waiting on the specific results so they can say it's a fact without a shadow of a doubt, and I respect them for waiting and taking it slow and doing the science the right way. A claim such as this can't be rushed no matter how apparent the results of any "proof" might be.
While I do believe in intelligent life outside of this planet, I'm still a skeptic. I mostly believe in what I can see with my own eyes. What I can feel with my own two hands. I think it's important for anyone doing any Serious research into the matter to be a skeptic and to try to dis-prove or debunk as many fakes as possible. With our advances in computers and video editing and special effects it's easier than ever for the nut-jobs and conspiracy wackos out there to make convincing "proof" on their own and it's people like those that bring a bad ilk to any Serious research into the matter. Sadly there are a lot of fakers and crazy people out there working in both directions of the debate. There are people who make fake videos of UFO's and try to pass them off as real and there are various groups and religious zealots who try to prove that Everything is fake and say that None Of It is real and anyone who believes there is intelligent non-human life in the universe is a moron or a liar.
Worse yet there are many people out there who are terrified of the idea that aliens may exist. Some people are so closed minded that no matter what scientific advances we may make or what we may learn about the universe and life its-self, they will Never believe that alien life exists even if aliens were to land on the White-House lawn and announce to the world that they are real and that they are here. Even if that did happen (which of course it hasn't) there would be a certain percentage of the world's population that would say it was faked, even if the proof was pointing a particle cannon at their head.
I'm about to tell a story I've never told publicly before. I've never told it honestly because I'm a little afraid of what it may make people think in regards to my sanity. If you choose to believe it, that's great. If you choose not to believe it, that's great too. One thing I do know for sure, I know what I saw...
Note: Before I get into the story, keep in mind that I was a kid. I was 13 or 14 years old. I had never done any drugs, didn't smoke cigs, didn't drink, and I wasn't a wild kid with a crazy imagination. I never had an "imaginary friend" at any point and even when I did grow up and start "partying" I've never had a hallucination nor have I ever saw something that I wasn't completely sure was right in front of me (magic tricks aside).
It was the summer of the year that my family moved from Deland in Volusia County out to Lake Mack in Lake County, Florida. I had to go to summer school that year to make up a failing English grade in 7th grade English (long story but basically I got screwed out of the grade I should have received). Because there weren't that many kids in my area going to summer school that year all of us in the neighborhood had to meet down at the corner store which was the only bus-stop for summer school that year. School started at 7 A.M. and was all the way in Leesburg (almost an hour from my house). We kids had to be at the bus-stop at 5:30 A.M. because it was a very long ride all the way to Leesburg from where we were in Lake Mack and there were other students to stop and pick up along the way. I was walking to the bus-stop down a long winding road. It was a normal paved road and there were houses and trailers all over the place. Even though the road was deserted because it was so early in the morning it was still a populated and crowded neighborhood. As I was rounding the bends I noticed all the tall pine trees were swaying back and forth pretty hard like there was about to be a storm, but oddly enough I couldn't feel any wind. I'm not going to say there wasn't any wind, there very well could have been and the currents were too high off the ground for me to feel the wind, but, I didn't actually feel any wind.
I was looking up at the tops of the pine trees when a very Large Triangle came out over the trees. At first I thought it was a helicopter and maybe I was seeing the lights on the ends of the rotors but then two things hit me. First, I couldn't hear Any noise. None what-so-ever. Second, if the lights I saw were on the ends of the rotors they would have been spinning very fast and not been stationary. They were also way too far apart to be rotor blades. The object was at least 3 times as high up as the trees, maybe 4 times as high, and it...was....Massive. I'm talking like the size of a Boeing 747, Massive. I quickly realized there was no way in hell that it was a helicopter. There were no flashing lights on it. They were on steadily. There were four lights in total. One larger light in the center and three more slightly smaller lights, one at each tip of the Triangle. I had seen plenty of helicopters up close, even military ones as I've lived close to Deland Airport for most of my time in Deland and seen plenty of air shows and air planes and helicopters first hand. I've seen both the Apache and the smaller Cobra Attack Chopper that it shares it's design with. It's also of note that out in Lake Mack in Lake County we were technically on the out-skirts of the Ocala National Forrest. The army had a bombing range on the far edge of the forrest and at least 3 or 4 times a year you could hear the bombs being dropped and all you had to do was go outside when the planes or helicopters were flying over-head to see what vehicles were doing the bombing. Lake Mack was right underneath their flight path for a long time even though the bombing range its-self was a good 60 or 70 miles away.
Anyway, when I realized just what it was I was looking at....well, I'm not ashamed to admit I got scared and started running for the bus-stop. I didn't look back and I didn't slow down. When I finally got to the point where I could see the store and see the other kids through the darkness standing under the street light at the store I stopped running. I didn't want the other kids thinking I was too scared to walk to the bus-stop in the dark, which I wasn't. I've never been afraid of the dark, not even as a small child. At that point when I stopped running I took the time to look behind me. Not surprisingly I didn't see anything. Nothing. No ship, no Triangle, no wind, and the trees were as still as could be since there was no wind.
I'm not gonna say I know for sure that it was aliens. I don't and to surmise that with no further evidence would be kinda stupid in my eyes. What I do know is that I have no idea what it was and it WASN'T a conventional aircraft. I honestly don't know what It was, but I do know I have Never seen Anything like It nor have I since. That one experience has led me to believe in intelligent life outside of this planet. I can't say it Was aliens. I can say I Think it was, because I have no other explanation for it.
So.....what do YOU believe? Do YOU think we're alone in the universe? Or do YOU think there is far more out there then we could ever dream is possible?
Blame the Germans...WW2.
You can also blame them for the space age as well....
Oh yeah! I remember...
Who knows. Maybe german engineers have seen UFOs too?
Yes, that was clearly ET testing out his new spaceship. Vroom Vroom.
That would be "Attribute the Germans with....."
However, they were only implementing technology stolen from a crashed UFO and.....
Re stealth technology...you can blame the Aussies for fucking it up....all those dollars invested to hide things....bit of lateral thinking and a 'few' dollars ruined the party...
Here's one I just found. Nasa and ... photoshop!
http://io9.com/5659999/nasa-caught-photoshopping-an-image-of-saturns-moons-what-were-they-trying-to-hide
This web site is for those who think Uncle Sam is into the cover up business. Conspiracy theorists live here.
Here's what really happened.
Now c'mon Uvah, you and I both know that you believe in UFOs... you came down in one.
I don't know about Uvah, but Smedley definitely did!
'Course I did! How else do you think I got all these bwains, DUH!
Are you suggesting that under that Housey looking exterior of his, Smedley is really a green man???
Um, actually I thunk you got all dem bwains by swapping them for a tasty banker wiv a zombie.
Shhhhhhh ...... don't tell nobody.
Back to the OP:
I believe I'd pay Raven 1 karma if he'd just take a moment to fight for the good guys in defense of apostrophes and tweak this thread title.
An apostrophe doesn't mean "Hey, there's an S coming up in this word." It means the word you're reading is a possessive or a contraction. UFOs are a category. A given UFO's evidence trail is an entirely different thing.
Green - yes. Man - no.
He's somewhere in between. What that might be only the Po ... knows.
Given, logically and statistically, life, imcluding 'intelligent' life has/does/will occur 'g-zillions' (smile) of times. The question then becomes, why no ongoing, demonistrative and repeatable, fully public contact with humans?
1) They can't. (light speed, hibernation / generation ships, etc)
2) They won't (hey, the ufos humans see are teen-aliens out joyriding - and violating the 'reservation' we humans are on - for our own protection).
3) They don't survive long enough to actually leave their 'home' solar system.
I go with number 3. In the greater scheme of things, is 'intelligence' REALLY a un- trump-able survival trait? Our history is replete with societies that soil their own nests to the point of extinction. Archeologists call the garbage pile near ancients settlements a 'midden.' Its a treasure trove to scientists who want to study, know, and understand what the long dead settlement's inhabitants were about. Study the experience of the humans who settled Easter Island. It was an isolated ecosystem. The intelligent humans used their intelligence to use, abuse, and finally destroy the ecology that was supporting them on the island. They turned Easter Island into Midden Island. They were smart, clever, people. Engineers and politicians. Their intelligence actually hastened their extinction.
Guess what? "Space Ship Earth" is ALSO an Island. And we, with all our uber -technology, and wisdom, and cleverness, still have not solved the problem of "the commons." ((IN a nutshell, any resource that is public, common to all, will be used and abused as quick as possible, by those who can, becuause if they leave it be, someone else will use and consume it.))
So, we, in the name of our respective religions and tribes, and corporations, and nations, are using our uber-technology to consume the 'common' resources of planet earth, in an ever escalating upward spiral. We will, however, turn planet earth into one giant midden. Easter island (they had a different name for the island, i am sure) inevitably became midden island. Planet earth will become the midden planet. The spiral will collapse. <game over> <no reload possible, insufficient resources > My best guess is this happens to all intelligent species.
They aren't 'visiting us, because they turn their planets into garbage dumps, and their planets ceast to be able to support them. <game over>
I hope I am wrong.
To be fair, in certain situations an apostrophe can indicate that something is plural. Those situations are pretty uncommon, and its use in the OP is still incorrect, but they do exist.
Honestly, the way things seem to have worked on earth looks a lot like a nano-tech experiment to me. Every living cell counts on power generation by a separate organism which just so happens to be in every cell. The fact that mitochondria and chloroplasts have a different genetic makeup from those of the rest of the organelles in living cells suggests a lot. Seems more like engineering than chance. Anyway consider the fact that many now are working on nanotechnology. Some feel that such technology should be self replicating. Were you to create such a thing it would sometimes reproduce (replicate) perfectly and other times there would be errors (or mutations) most of which would render the devices non-functional. Now and then errors would occur that would not destroy the devices and a new form of the machine would now exist and continue to replicate. Now, I am by no means saying this is what happened. I have no clue, but it seems as reasonable as the rest of the theories I have heard.
Not to exacerbate my threadjacking, but can you cite an authority there? I admit I haven't bought a new style manual since last century, but I've tried to keep up with online references and to the best of my knowledge there are no plural noun forms that depend on punctuation marks. I've been severely underemployed of late, but that's actually a work question for me and I'd hate getting caught fixing something that isn't broken by current standards.
Does that mean he is a zombie alien????
http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/621/01/
It is used to make plurals of lower case letters, but I think that is pretty much it. That specific source uses as an example the phrase, "mind your p's and q's." Another example would be, "dot your i's and cross your t's." Or if you were to say, "This sentence contains two a's in it." My understanding is that this is allowed to prevent confusion. Especially in the case of "i's" or "a's," as those could be misinterpreted as "is" and "as."
Some sources, however, say that in those situations you should make the letter bold, italic, or change the font, as in "mind your ps and qs." Personally, I think that method is just silly, and it doesn't work so well if you're actually writing something by hand (an uncommon occurance ).
Yay threadjacking!
The Stardock boards taught me that fun new word, and your link to that Perdue site both reaffirmed my desire to get Raven to earn a karma point and made me notice that I've never done paid work on prose that included a phrase like "Mind your p's and q's." But I can imagine being handed a style sheet written by an editor who found mixed case preferable to the apostrophe use: "For plural forms of individual letters, use Ps and Qs, not p's and q's."
Mine secret am out. Prepare to be ass-imilated ...... or not.
On a more serious note. Did it ever occur to anyone that there just might be a 'reason' why we have not, to my knowledge or anyone elses I assume, been visited by ET. It is my understanding that, due to the sorry state of affairs here on planet Earth it could be they are waiting to see if we survive long enough to learn one very important lesson. I wonder ...... how many know what that lesson is? Do you? I do.
Fixed...now where's my damn karma?!?!?!
Yeah, I guess you could do it that way too. But in some cases you would have to use lower case letters. You don't really need to dot a capital I .
And if you're doing one of those "count [insert letter]'s in this sentence" and want to throw people off by specifically asking about lower case instances of that letter, using an upper case letter instead of an apostrophe wouldn't work. Still, both are very limited cases.
And we can bore the aliens to death with English 101. Off topic!
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