I am learning im real new at modding im still trying to piece it all together ive been spending alot of time chatting with Soase-Mealstrom who i call MR M hopefully i can keep  learning till im more useful there. What i have done was play with ones already written to say alter base shield stats and modify some functions and so on alot of it is pretty explanitory but to create them from scratch no idea. But i am willing to learn as much as i can.

Is frigatepsilongrange.entity the file for the drake? Is it possible to rename the files relative to the ship they are?

@simonak

Tengu is the hardest ship type they could do as they have so many variations of t3 ships. Where do you stop and what do you select. I would think t3 ships would be the first to go out of the window for the mod and stick to more solid state ships. Besides so many better ships than  t3 ships

ok ive got to stop going nuts but i cant help it ive been doing some thinking about ships

for the first row of 9 caldari frigs you could work its like this

for

1.heron: i dont know if you through research or a ability can upgrade this ship to a buzzard but an option

2.condor: upgradable to interceptor class raptor or crow class super fast low armor tackles ships in grav well

3.merlin: this has assualt frig upgrades i would use those as part of the 9 ships

4.kestral: this has a stealth bomber upgrade when t2

now here is where id use research to give t2 options i would require certain weapons upgrades and amount of units of military research so on

5.stealth bomber: here is the tricky part they switched these from long range cruise missles which are classed as LRM and would have firepower of a capital to shorter range torpedos either could be used but for more up to day torps would be accurate dunno if you want to go into bombing. But these ships cloak.  (note as ive heard there are issues with cloaking and can only be done with something similiar to phaseing dunnow how to approach this)

6.harpy or hawk: or use both these are the assualt frig class using the merlin hull design hawk is a pure missle frig and the harpy is a rail/blaster ship either or

7.kitsune:The kit was an ewar frig very fragile but used for ecm jamming mostly had to get closer but due to agility was very functional.

8.Cormorant: the destroyer class a step up from frig designed as a frig killer more damage more guns a destroyer could fit up to 8 small weapons so it was formidable for any race.

9.Flycatcher: An inderdictor class ship, this ships design was off the destroyer hull but being t2 was stronger less armed but often much faster was capable of using in 0.0 space the inderdiction sphere which allowed all ships within the bubble to be warp jammed and unable to leave the area by warping or jumping out the sight of an inderdiction sphere brought fear to any podpilots mind.

these are some ideas im throwing your guys way i will keep adding as i go i have ideas for research too id like feedback from the team to see what you guys think.

ok ok i know im writing a book but hey i cant help it

here is my 9 capital class ships now this group spans a bunch of classes from Freightor, to battlship to carrier to dread to mom to titan.

ok i wil begin with the Battleship class as this is the most popular and the ships i definatly see as more capital ships than cruisers in this game.

1.Raven: This ship is the flagship of the Caldari its a feared missle boat that is capable of launching long range strikes with cruise missles or heavy close range damage with torpedoes it also boasts a solid tank and is very versatile and the most popular ship for mission running. its not overly expensive but an exceptional ship all around.

2.Scorpion: known as the Scorp was a pure ECM boat this ship was almost useless for firepower couldnt kill shit, but many people would use them as lure ships becasue it could boast a nasty tank for shielding having 8 mid slots to work with. It was almost always called primary in any battle due to its jamming capabilities not a ship u want jamming half your fleet while in a fight. IT was sometimes in rare cases used as a nos/nuet boat and was a support ship. This ship would definatly make a good caldari support cap.

3.The Rohk: or  ROCK as most call it like the mythical thunderbird is a very diverse ship its primary role was to give caldari a Gun platform ship. The role of this ship is a tough one but mostly its used as a sniper with extreme railgun range second only to the apoc. Prior to its enhancment it used to be the king of long range sniping. While railguns are often the weakest form of sniping they were very effective. This ship can also tote a very strong shield rank if not setup for sniping it was capable of using torpedoes only 4 luanchers instead of its 8 gun turret slots but if setup with a decent shield tank and blasters the short range highest damage weapons in the game it was a dangerous boat. This ship should get a role reconsideration and much more love and considered for a capital ship.

4.Golem:This is the maruader class or t2 variant of the caldari raven it is a mean ship boasting a superior tank and double the damge of its missle bays only needing 4 missle bays unlike the ravens 6 it puts out a hell of a wallop but this ship is extremly expensive costing almost the price of 10 ravens. It tank is second to none and can take a serious beating and the empty slots allow for nuet or nos giving it cap/antimatter warfare capabilities.

4a.Caldari Navy raven: This raven is a supped up raven often a very popular ship it is a raven with slightly more tank but has 1 more missle bay so its output for dps is higher if the golem doesnt seem to fit i would ask this be considered.

now i branch into what eve considered Capital class ships

5.Charon: This old water hauler was transformed into an industrial capital ship later and is a huge slow moving golaith barely able to use stargates this hulk can haul anything and is the choice for setting up starbases or POS stations while often in this game cruisers end up with the starbase ship i suggest it be used in its rightful place as a cap. While this ship has no weapons it has quite a bit of bulk and can take alot of damage. It is slow moving but capable. I suggest this cap be cheap very cheap and used as colony ships in the game this is often the first cap ship anyone gets in eve. This ship also should double as the resource taking ship.

Now we get into the next stage of cap ships

6.Phoenix: This massive dreadnaught is one of Caldari's answer to the threat of invasion by starbases. Its primary role is that of base bashing or attacking other capital ships. It uses capital class torpedoes and has a might shield tank. Though the phoenix is not the weakest it is not the most favored of dreads to have. IT can boast some of the best damage to starbases of any dread next to the Moros. Slow moving and unable to jump without a cynosural field dreads posses a seige mode that locks them in place for long duratoins but brings thier damge up exceptionally high while increasing thier tanking tremendously. These ships should be only obtainable through alot of research.

7.Chimera:The carrier it is what it says a fighter boat this ship is capable of fielding many fighters and doing tremendous damage to ships of all classes it is a support ship as wel being able to heal and support the fleet the spider tank of many carriers was feared due to the ability for them to heal themselves while outputting a lot of damage. Carriers also were unable to jump from gate to gate and needed a cynosural field to jump to. These ships were often used by pod pilots to jump behind enemy lines and bring in ships for pilots and resources needed to wage war.

This next group is known as supercapitals they are a whole different ball of wax

8.Wyvern:This MOM or mothership was the same as a carrier it had all the abilities of a carrier except it could feild bombers these special fighters are anti capital and are exceptionally nasty capable of decimating a capital ship like a bunch of mice eating some cheese. These mother ships could field huge groups of ships in its bay for players to bring behind enemy lines with them and could also field fighters and drones much like a carrier. Moms were ewar proof giving them an advantage no other capital class has you cannot stop these ships by ordinary means. indertiction craft are the only way to stop them from jumping away or warping out they cannot be jammed or disrupted in anyway. They are simply immune to ewar. These ships were super expensive and came from only the best pod pilots. feared by all and the kill of one was coveted. This ship would dent the wallets of any who undertook its construction.

9.Leviathan: The ulitmate in caldari space ship design the Titan class this ship was not only huge it was devistatingly powerful. Early on these ships toted the now nerfed doomday weapon which was a huge area effect weapon. This weapon could be used 1 time every hour but any caught in its blast would often find themselves dead right quick. This large Aoe blast could take out all ships except battlships tanked for its damage type and cap ships anything smaller died instantly. Later due to the unfairness of this weapon as they never expected allainces to build up to 15 of these ships. Imagine 15 doomsdays going off in a row nothing would live at all except the titans an ultimate weapon. This was changed. The titans new Doomsday was a directed energy weapon specific to the race it was a single shot weapon that could instantly kill any ship but a mothership or another titan. possibly a dreadnaught in seige mode could survive. while titans cannot use fighters or bombers like other carrier class ships they can also wield dreadnaught turrets or launchers so they can pack a huge punch as well as thier doomsday weapons. They are extremly hard to kill the only thing that can really stand up to a titan is a station. And not always. Its all dependant on how the station is put together or POS. The titan also has a special ability as it uses the cynosural field like the other major capital ships it can create a jump bridge and using its anitmatter it can jump a fleet with it of any ships near it. SO it can instantly bring its support with it. This is one of the only ships capable of doing this. This is a max research ship IMHO its endgame it should cost a fortune and it should be only obtainable when all research is done. While it is possible to see a few of these ships ingame on one team it shouldnt be common to see more than 1 and when it is seen it should be feared.

ok i added my 2 cents again more like my 20cents but nevertheless i left out black ops ships cause welll cloaking is an issue and black ops are for cloaking and recon ships they are very specialised ships and i dont  really see a place for them in this mod to many other ships do the same role.

@doomser1 - thx for playing the mod so far the work myfist and myself have done is not anything close to a complete package. From the get go I warn that this is very much a work in progress. I put it out there that I am FAR from a professional mod maker. Just a 24 yo dood who likes Sins and has played EvE since it went live in 2003. 

So models fly backwards engines dont point the right direction and all too often ships are way out of size ratio. To this I say, half the time I get 6 new gray hairs just getting a model in game, getting a model and a texture is nearly a stroke. Getting guns figured out is meh.  

Basically I had a plan while starting this,

create a community to help work on this mod - failed

produce models so that others might polish them up - failed

have others write .ent files so i could focus on models - failed

So I work on this when I want to get frustrated, which as of late, hasn't been often, lolz. This is the 3rd or 4th EvE mod attempt and I can see why they die out. The undertaking is so huge!!!! There is almost to much EVE lore to sort thru, so I dont mean to sound down, just a tad frustrated  I have never modded or modeled in my life, so im learning as I go, this very well may take a year or more to produce to a polished non beta release. 

Start collecting assets from eve like voice and sound effects (clean with no music in background. Character pictures, icons, fonts and what ever else that would fit in the mod and I can get it in-game. I will be moving from Windows Live Sync to Live Mesh soon and we can start a Developer shared folder then. I can mod every single thing in SoaSE accept abilities and buffs are a bit of a problem but I need help getting all the info together.

Need to start at the beginning for me. How many races are we going to use and what there names? 6 races really pushes sins. 5 not bad 4 is better.

ok sounds good ive never attempted to pull anything from an eve client. you cant access the game itself without a paid sub but if everything is client side i would think it should be accessible..

Windows live mesh is that a place to upload all the work like a shared ftp of sorts?

Well unlike sins the ships don't have any voices that would relate to them. There is one computer that all pod pilots have but its universal says things like Warping and so on. There are plenty of sound effects.

There are 4 races. Amarr, Minmatar, Gallente, Caldari. And a secret race noone sees called the Jove but that isnt really relavent there are sub factions Sansha, dread guiristas stuff like that.

Hi,

I have a rather technical question that probably could be asked anywhere on the modding forum, but since it concerns working with an EVE model I thought it is best to ask it here. Besides, one more post will keep the thread fresh.

In short, what I've done so far, I have extracted an EVE ship (using Triexporter) and textured it with XSI. It is the Amarr battle-cruiser Profecy which is a mesh using one single texture for the entire surface. I am trying to the same now with the dreadnought Naglfar. However, this ship uses multiple texture files vor various parts of the ship. My question is: is it possible to select separately the various sections of the ship and then assign to each one a material with a texture? Or is the information of the ship-sub-components lost while converting the model with Triexporter into *.obj? I've seen that the battleship Appocalipse has been made SINS ready and it too uses multiple texture files. Perhaps somebody could give me a hint on how to proceed. I do not need detailed tutorials, as I've already benefited from some very helpful ones. Just a hint whether it is possible to select sub-objects or should I start working with polygon selections.

Thanks in advance!

myfist feel free to add the tutorial vids to your website if you wants  

I may have some voices you could use, although I would need to know if SINS has any specific audio codecs or formats it uses.

Sins music is ogg format 2 channels at 128 kb/sec but the voice and effects are 1 channel or mono. If you try a voice or effect sound in stereo it will play over 1 speaker only. I pretty sure you can use mp3 or wav but you must specify the proper extension in the sound file.

Any movement on this mod lately?