Detroit is leagalizing based on a vote in November, advocates say state wide in four years. -Jeremy Sr.
Same actually applies to other drugs, not just alcohol. Using either whilst driving is legally testable and subsequently actionable [In Oz]....eventually other parts of the world will catch up to us....
Alright,
After spending far far far too much time reading what is largely mindless drivel, fallacious arguments built on faulty logic and poor reasoning I have come to a conclusion and changed my mind about the whole pot thing. See at first I thought "trying to momentarily alter one's perception of reality for the simple reason of enjoying it more seems like you're being terribly dishonest with yourself." Honestly, I can't understand how anyone can become so completely wrapped up in lying to themselves about their lives. But no no. After a while you people began to make a point. Not intentionally, not with any one statement, but the collected efforts of stoners to go soo far out of their way to try and rationalize getting high for a moment's worth of buzz has really painted a clear picture that no amount of reason, ethics, social progress, or even medical information could ever change the minds of the growing group of baked potatoes. No, like the silly creationist, the happiness that comes with their belief is so great it out weighs their value of reason. You have opened my eyes. I am no longer under the illusion that this problem can be solved by merely understanding the truth. After all, who cares about the truth, right? That isn't always sunshine and rainbows, why would anyone pick the truth over smoking a joint and having some giggles with your friends on a couch for hours? Or, apparently, getting high in a closet for eight years then having mystical revelations, truth has nothing on that shit.
So here's the deal,
I'm with ya, 100%, mindless drivel, incomprehensible self proclaimed "poets", and yes even the alleged "thinkers". I'm fully on board, legalized whatever crazy magical substances you want. But here's the deal, I will agree to all of the afore mentioned gladly, all you have to do is first legalize suicide. Because I really really really really don't want to live in that world. Do they sell bullets individually?
Yes,but you can't exchange them after they are used so make sure you buy one big enough to do the job properly.
Again as states address the issue locally eventually the feds will have to come to grips with the changing sentiment, and either try and re-enforce the fed laws, or make decriminalization nation wide. If the govt could easily and reliably make more money of of legal drugs over the profit off illegal drugs I think they would be moving faster on it. Fact is, on a federal drug charge if they nail the right chain of bad guys in the upper food chain, the govt makes 100's of millions in seized assets per offender. Not to mention the political capital for appearing to have made some difference, and poorly justified ever expanding budgets for such efforts.
Isn't marijuana one of those commodities where one's profits go up in smoke?
Actually, today prisons are for making a profit. THAT is one of the reasons marijuana is still illegal right now.
Another reason is that it's easier to take your gun ownership rights away when your busted for felony pot possession. Easier than changing the gun laws.
I never thought about that, WG. Good point.
I'm sorry, I just want to point out to all of you that you got trolled by a bot that doesn't even pass a Turing test. You may find it interesting to see what chatbots can do these days. The OP is one
If it's true that no prisons make a profit, why are there still private prisons? Not necessarily contradicting you, but maybe they should look into their business plan if they're not making profit.
In thinking about this earlier, I couldn't come up with another commonly available product for which no sales tax is collected. The best I could come up with is yard sale items. Illegal income is supposed to be reported for income tax, but I don't think there's any law that says illegal sales are supposed to be reported for sales tax. (Income tax activists claim there's no law that income tax has to be reported at all, but that's another issue. The fact is income tax evasion, where the source of income is illegal, is prosecuted, whereas I'm not aware of any case of prosecution for evading sales tax on sale of illegal products.)
If the government collected just 6% sales tax on reported marijuana sales, that alone would be a huge revenue stream. Add to that income tax, as pro-legalization activists do, and the argument becomes stronger. I'd like to see figures on state revenue from medical marijuana, minus expenditures for grants for marijuana research. This article claims $200 million dollars of medical marijuana sales are subject to sales tax in California.
If you're morally opposed to marijuana, the state revenue argument won't hold much sway. If we could make money by killing babies, we wouldn't support it. But if you're opposed on purely pragmatic, utilitarian, grounds, then the untapped revenue stream (and the costs of prisons, which in whole do not produce profit--and drain productivity by warehousing citizens who might otherwise be productive) must be persuasive.
Nice try, however I have communicated directly with the 'OP' and at best 'bot's are incapable of presenting themselves as quite so, er, naive [for want of a better word]....
Yeah, try telling me again that illegal drugs (of any kind) are OK. Any substance that effects your cognitive abilities, even in the tiniest way, is no good for you or anybody else, period!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11129844
My brother rubbs in that the state police will still be after the dealers but The city police won't touch anyone and the reports on the new about state police are all that they are stinging the most violent gang members in the city. Often taking down 100 -150 of the most dagerous people my brother doesn't reallize that the detroit police won't be arresting 100 people a day that is good news and I feel in 20 years you'll see that people start believing in the law again when they aren't over it on the drugs every day that they do it. -Jeremy Sr.
Sheesh, this morning it said a 15 year old boy did it, and that he was high on drugs! Never trust the media I guess!
Matter of fact, if you do a Google search on "15 year old shoots seven people in Slovakia", the first to come up is:
"Gunman shoots dead seven in Slovakia | World | BigPond News
Aug 31, 2010 ... 'Fourteen people including a three-year-old child were taken to ... been a 15-
Marijuana is a godsend for my wife, as she has MS, and pot helps her extremely well for the muscle spasms associated with it, I do indulge once in a while ,in Massachusetts they decriminalized it a few years back, anything up to an ounce and all you get is a ticket with a 100 dollar fine
Murph....that's an entirely new definition of 'decriminalised'...
One would hope there'd be NO penalty....
I thought that was what we were doing I mean the site is so addictive sorry for the phun
Murph....that's an entirely new definition of 'decriminalised'...One would hope there'd be NO penalty....
Not in my lifetime... or yours. There will always be a penalty because government doesn't want to be seen openly taxing pot... hence the fines to keep revenue ticking over. Decriminalised just means no conviction is recorded.
So why do cops confiscate pot? Saves being seen buying it from known dealers.
While the police in Bratislava said that the gunman’s identity and motives were still being investigated, relatives and neighbors of the victims said the killer lived in the same apartment building, often railed against the Roma, and had accused the family of dealing drugs and otherwise disturbing the peace......one young Roma woman, identifying herself as a granddaughter of one of those killed, said she believed the crime had been fueled by racism. “He’d always been very hostile to colored people and hated us,” she said. “He picked on us all the time.” http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/31/world/europe/31slovak.htmlDrugs apparently were not the reason for this violence--hatred, racisim, and xenophobia were the reasons for this violence.
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