Original, Expansion, Entrenchment or Diplomacy?

What races are in play ... what planets?

It could be an ability on a planet or a frigate combination.

Is it lagging in a battle?

I've had 100 Dreads in play on a Maelstrom map - ever race in play.

I don't turtle and I don't tend to build to much defense.

Diplomacy version. I'd have to check on races.. I'm playing trade alliance but only few other races are still left.. About 3. Prolly a random large map instead of medium then since i started with 8 races.

Lags while zooming out on planets and massivly lags in battles... 1, 2 fps.. with freezes of 5 seconds very frequently. And even when half my fleet is annihalated but lags gets a bit less then.

And yeah. i maybe more of a turtle.. Just start off building up a few planets, developing them and then expanding... but only have a dozen planets atm.. random medium 8 player map, 1 star.

I think most of the extreme lag happens on random medium/large maps.. Not the scenario or premade maps.. The systems of war map seems to be very smooth but i'm guessing that has to do with the fact that all the action happens in a very small star system at once,

Thanks for that!

I find "Modifier list" by bailknight essential when working with abilities. Also I always check the original abilities for correct format and use (a good word search editor is a must and then search for key 'words') . Note that there are some 'non-obvious' constraints on what abilities can do and how you use them, hence trial and error.

Well i tend to only play random maps, not the premade ones and on the larger ones i always have extreme lag later on. But so far on the systems of war map it is extremely smooth so far... Maybe I should stick to premade maps

Depending on what I'm testing I play

1. Large: Random Huge(Single)

2. Medium: Maelstrom (occasional Systems of War) [with one of each race]

3. Small: Random [typically one each of the original races and two each of the new races]

Of the three versions of Sins (O,E & D) Entrenchment is the least susceptible to lag, even with just the originals race (see TSOP).

Though as I have said I have not notice any 'extreme' lag in testing - worst I have seen is a Huge Random Single with the Maelstrom for Original Sins (once it paused for a second near the end/peak of the game).

You might like to try Entrenchment, it should be smoother, that is until I get to the bottom of this issue.

is there anywhere where you have the ships stats posted?
cause i keep forgetting abilities and i wanted to tell my friends about em' 

The lag on large / medium random maps i've having i the same as i had on R1 of maelstrom.. Can't remember if it was the same without the mod at all since i hadn't played the game without it for quiet some time. So i think the lag doesn't have too much to do with the mod but just with the outdated game engine.

There is an archive section on the Maelstrom website, go to the download page.

No not yet, when the races approach their final balance I will consider compiling the stats.

no lag here.

I did not take it as a criticism ... far from it. As always feedback is appreciated.

I what to optimize the mod as far as possible, any problems I what to know about and improve ... no beating around the bush.

My Box: Intel Core 2 Quad CPU, Q9400 @2.66GHz, 3GB RAM, XP Professional (32 bit), NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS.

With your help and others we can make it better.