Many people are saying the world is going to end in 2012 due to the lack of further information on the mayan calendar. Your thoughts?
Rules:
Stay on topic, this thread's predecessor was locked due straying into a bad place. Particularly avoid the topic of religion. It may seem like this thread is open to that due to the many appocolypse theories out there, but I am specifically refering to the mayan calandar.
Please be conciderate to the thoughts and beliefs of others. If you disagree, say so, and SAY WHY! don't just take the "Because I said so" approach.
This is meant to be an open-minded debate style. Both opinion and facts are welcome. I'll let someone else start.
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Besides, everyone that moved there would be required to submit to the mother government they enter, not their own form which they would be forced to give up.
hit the nail on the head there. Not that most of us want to move anyway
You know what I think? You people living there are a lot more happy than us city-folks. I am kinda Jealous
Hey if it does go down we all get bragging rights in heaven anyway. People would be like "How did you die" and you get to say "In the apocalypse!!! Beat that!!!!". Who knows, maybe new fault lines will open where there aren't any now anyways.
What if someone lived 120 years or something!!! They would be all like "ha ha got you sucker, I lived twice as long as you did"
But I'm 125 years old thats why death is so close behind me!!!!!!!
LMAO
Is that why you are selling your body to him? To buy more years?
I have to totally disagree with this one.
When 911 grounded 1000s of planes, a lot of them where in Newfoundland Canada and other eastern provinces. These people where grounded for days with no way to get home and Canadian families opened there homes to them. During the ethnic cleansing of eastern Europe and Africa, there where thousands of canadians opening there home to refugees and orphans. Not to mention the aid we sent. While we might not have much of an army, we are known as great peace keepers and aid givers. Who would want to attack Canada anyway. Oh ya, the Americans back in 1812, but we kick there butt lol.
I think you will find people all over the world being the same way once the sh%t hits the fan.
Ok, explain to me, what do the nice people (Canadian families) have to do with the goverment, or any other organazation that could help Caribbeans move out. Do these families or any other common folks work directly with/for the goverment?
No they arent. So no matter how nicce people are, in our world money rules everything, and these people need a lot of money to move out, if they wanted to. Good will doesnt help anyone here.
So again:
Is there a profit for them if they do help you?No, there isnt.Thats all that matters to them.
i think the world ends when we stop useing money, then a better world will start from its ashs.
i want to know why there are so many stupid people on the planet.
And I thought the OP wanted this thread to stay on topic.
I guess that was simply too much to ask.
As far as I understand the Mayan calendar, it was simply to indicate the end/beginning of a certain celestial cycle. It had nothing to do with 'the end of the world', or any other specific world changing events.
thats not really got a good anwser, there are many things that can make one stupid as well as smart.
you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. i suggest you pick up a textbook and unlearn all the nonsense you're regurgitating from zeitgeist/the money masters etc. i can't stand such wilful ignorance.
No, I cant understand YOUR ignorance. Anyway, you dont need to say anything more. It seems to me, that you only listen to what a square thing with images and sound, that is called a TV, tells you to do.
nice try, but i hardly ever watch tv. that said, i rarely encounter any program that is as full of lies and distortions and the BS that zeitgeist is full of. go to school, do some economics units and realise the opinions you currently hold are nothing more than ridiculous conspiracy theories. christ, you dont even understand how central banks work ffs.
Then I suppose you will tell me how banks work?
im not sure i should bother. people that subscribe to the idiocy contained in films like zeitgeist are normally immune to facts and logic. but ill just point out that central banks are independent government agencies (not private banks, even though private banks make up part of the reserve system), who return all profits (minus expenses) to their respective treasuries. governments pay no net interest to their central bank, which makes the relationship completely different to when you or i borrow money for a house or car.
central banks are independent from elected politicians in order to keep monetary policy from becoming politicised. they have to make the hard decisions that politicians can't be trusted with. their primary roles are to maintain price and currency stability, moderate interest rates and act as a lender of last resort. they are not private institutions run for private profit and the officials in charge of monetary policy are appointed by the government.
Ok. Then why dont the central banks make as much money as the goverment needs? (not more, not less)
im not sure i understand the question. most money that a government needs comes via taxation. if a government spends more than it receives in taxation (ie running a deficit) then the government will borrow that money by selling government debt in bonds. if a central bank just printed as much money as ever required by the government, then (in most circumstances) inflation would get out of control. the central bank is merely a facilitator in this entire process, if a government owes debt to bond holders then that is the responsibility (fault) of the government, not the central bank. the central bank makes no profit from its loans to government.
We dont need to pay any taxes whatsoever, the central banks in every country should made all the money needed by the goverment, (not digital money, but real money), and when inflation happens, just increase prices and set it straight.
And why should we have money anyway? Why do we need our lives to be controlled by a non-valuable item? (coins dont have much value anymore) We dont really need money, all we need is resources. Thats what you really need, to live, to have fun, to move from 1 place to another etc
Because bartering is innefective regarding wages and large sums of value. We can't actually afford to use gold (what money represents). Ironic, isn't it?
Now, may I remind you both that this is a thread dedicated to the idiocracy of 2012?
My very 1st online name was Anne R Kiste or NRkeyman
I'm sorry if I was the one to stray us off topic but thought the thread was getting a little stagnant and thought what if the world did have a major catastrophe in 2012, what would people be like. It went way off from there.
LOL, yeah sorry for that, I went off topic
OK OK ..............ummmmm. But didn't we already blow the 2012 scenario out of the water, by showing that the Mayans were referring to the passing of our solar system through the Galactic Equator and not the End of the World. Though we did speculate if that would cause the end of the world anyway.
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