What exactly is required for a internal conflict of a nation to be considered a civil war? Well the real questio is what problems do both sides face? What problems do a Usurper face when trying to over throw a king, and what problems do a king face against a usurper (besides loing ones kingdom and life?). Is a weaker king who loves his people harder or easier to overthrow a powerful king feared by his people?
mainly two partys who cannot agree on anything and the only way to work things out is to destroy the other through war.
If you are have the support of your people, it's unlikely that you'll be overthrown.
If your people hate you, there will be lots of people trying to overthrow you.
This can be totally solved (for the leader) by mass brainwashing and labor camps. *cough* North Korea *cough*
Civil War is like Jumbo Shrimp. An oxymoron. But what is called a civil war usually reaches that stage when each side has a safe base of operations. IN other words, each side controls some territory of the country in question. before that stage, they are just bandits, criminals or at best an insurrection.
A civil war is 2 or more people in conflict talking out their differences in a civilized manner...
But hasn't their been kind kings who have been usurped.
None that I can think of. I'm sure there have been some, but for the most part, if you have a good approval rating there won't be too many threats from within.
Most of the civil wars were/are in Africa. They don't teach any African history in VA though, so I have very little knowledge in that area. The American Civil War was probably the most pointless war ever. The North didn't actually want to emancipate slaves, so the South just overreacted and ironically ended up causing what they were trying to prevent. We'd probably be really effing overpopulated if we didn't fight the Civil War. I'm guessing slavery would have ended like 25 years later than it did, and it would have been compensated so everyone would be happy. (Plus you wouldn't have the industrialization gap between N and S)
What I find truly strange is how war revitalizes a (winning) nation's economy. We pour tons of resources into making useless weapons and killing off a bunch of potential workers, but then the economy just booms from there. I guess it's because it eliminates unemployment and creates the need for food and supplies.
The key criteria of a war that makes it a civil war is that it is between two opposing goups of citizens of the same country.
As far as which side is the usurper it is always the loser since the winner writes the history books.
If you drive around in the US south it's pretty clear that many people are still fighting the Civil War or as they call it the War of Northern Aggression.
Suddenly, the Korean War appears!
I can't help but take offense to this, I live in the south but I could careless; its over and what has been done is done.
Assuming that the age in your profile is correct then you're probably too young to care much about anything (yet another generalization to which you may or may not take offense).
So OK given that this particular characterization does not apply to you specifically, given that you live in the south then you at least have to admit that there is some truth behind the generalization.
Or perhaps I'm wrong and this is no longer a prevalent sight in the south these days.
Or perhaps I'm right.
That's a necessary but perhaps not entirely sufficient criterion. Internal conflict can get pretty hot in all manner of political systems, but I don't think it's fair to trot out the w-word unless there's at least some serious checkpoints on civilian traffic if not outright territory seizures by the minority faction(s).
Except for those horrible, occasionally decades-long times when things are a total mess and there is no clear winner who can physically and/or symbolically beat our delusions (memories) out of us. I've been trying to console myself about how ugly things are at the moment by thinking how truly awful it would have been to live during the Hundred Years War or the French Wars of Religion with 24-hour 'news' channels adding to the mess.
Please don't forget that many of us Southron folks who love the phrase "War of Northern Aggression" would also have been staunch, if terrified, abolitionists back in the day. We just don't like the damn Yankees and no-account cowboys from out West conspiring to label our region as the national homeland of ignorance. Reconstruction happened down here, but Jim Crow was nation-wide.
Also don't forget that I live in Concord, MA (where the shot heard round the world was fired) and as a loyal Red Sox fan since I moved here in 1971 to go to MIT I cannot agree more with the phrase "damn Yankee" although for me it has a slightly different connotation.
Damn Forum. Duplicate Post.
Civil wars don't exist anymore... There is only sectarian violence.. where both sides get information from prisoners using enhanced interrogation ...right George bush?
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I don't see the confederate flag anywhere in Virginia. You may be thinking, well, Virginia isn't exactly the deep South, but it was the capital of the confederacy for most of the Civil War, so one would assume that it would be representative of any hate for the North. The Civil War was sort of started by the North in the same way that America started the Mexican-American War. (I'm totally not threatening you, I'm just massing troops on your borders)
Also, Swerdy, there are tons of Civil Wars in Africa, and in the past 50 years there have been several in Asia. The difference is that America involved itself in the Asian ones(why can't we just be isolationist D:, although, we really can't complain; that's why all of our good music was created)
Well, no place in the South is more Southern than Mississippi judging by their poverty and literacy rates. I'm sure there are plenty of Confederate flags there.
The Mississippi State flag has the Confederate flag in it, so, yeah, I'd agree with that lol. Also, Florida is more southern than Mississippi (inb4 Hawaii)
Here in georgia we have the stereotypical redneck and "nigga", but I don't remember seeing any confed flags anywhere. Or maybe I'm too young to know what they look like?
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Most of the kings were usurped covertly rather than a huge civil war. Kind kings included. Many were poisoned and "died mysteriously" : "On April 9, 1483, Edward IV unexpectedly died"
Richard III was a kind king (supposedly moral and just, corrected the "misrule" of the former King) yet he was plagued by highly effective propaganda calling him a betrayer like Judas, a murderer like King Herod killing innocent children, calling him a tyrant, accusing him of incest with his niece, etc. In the end, he was killed in a minor battle against someone claiming the throne who called him a bastard on both sides, thus no legitimate right to the throne. Just one example
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