Ya, ya; a lot of us yell pirating is wrong (even though some of us are hypocrites who have pirated stuff, you know who you are.) But, is it so wrong to pirate and use emulators for games that are 1. no longer being made or sold, and 2. games for console not even being made anymore?
No it hasn't?
Break laws to avoid breaking laws, I like it lol.
Be easy to get just the disc in the country. Buy a stack of blank cds, put your disk about 20 down in the stack, and shrink wrap it so it looks like its still sealed. Then have a relative mail you something like clothes or somethin and have that put in the box. I highly doubt they'd open the pack and look at each disc, while in with something like that. Esspecially if a family member mails it, make it look like a present. (IDK, haven't put a LOT of thought into this, so there are bound to be holes.)
-Twilight Storm
Damnit, the fuzz set this up!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_3#Drug_references_in_Australia
As it is, it has been banned in australia... a revised version specifically for australia's censorship laws was made a month later. I have heard of the ban on day 1 and missed the special "australia" revision being released a month later... but the vanilla unmodified version has been banned and that is all that matter. (you can released modified versions to meet china's censorship laws as well)
*sigh*Did you even read the Wiki article you quoted? They modified every version of Fallout 3 to correspond with the change, removing the reference to the real-world drug Morphine. The game - the same version that everyone else has - is available to buy in Australia.
ZehDon, so what?
Australia has a legal body which bans games, they made the official decision that fallout 3 with morphine in it is illegal to sell there (like the have for other games)... that the authors caved in and modified their work worldwide to fit that form of censorship doesn't mean that the censorship doesn't exist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games#Australia Here you go, a list of all games banned for sale in australia. In western australia you may not own such games, in the rest of australia you may own them if you bought them abroad, but it is illegal to sell them within australia itself. I bought Postal 2, fun and awesome game. In western australia it would be illegal for me to own, in the rest of australia illegal for me to buy (but I could own it if I brought it with me), and in anywhere in australia it would be a criminal offence to let someone under 18 see it
ex: had I still lived in my parent's house, which I don't, had my 17 brother walked into my room while I was playing it I would have been committing a crime
ex2: a parent who bought it to their 17 year old child would have been committing a crime.
Other things going on in australia include the installation of the "great firewall of australia" http://soviet-overlords.joeuser.com/article/375716/The_great_firewall_of_Australia_to_ban_criticisms_of_the_great_firewall_of_
as well as a somewhat recent (but short lived) temporary suspension of freedom of speech for bloggers due to them "spreading lies in an election year". (that was actually overturned fairly quickly... unlike the other issues; but the fact they even dared implement it in the first place says a lot).
Here's some cool information you failed to link, once again omitting the important information to further your piss poor attempts to slander an entire nation.Firstly, Australia currently has more Video Games banned than any other nation on the Earth. This is due to the outdated ratings system employed in Video Games; Australia lacks an R18+ rating and thus any game unable to be rated M15+ has to be refused classification. The reason for this is Michael Atkinson, the former AG of South Australia, as all amendments to the ratings system in Australia require that all AG from the States and Territories of Australia vote to do so unanimously and Atkinson voted against the reform each and every time it was called. The unanimous requirement was used to allow the smaller States and Territories of Australia to have an equal voice compared to the larger States and Territories, who would have been more 'important' due to their higher population on the non-adopted proposed system. Michael Atkinson lost his seat in the recent election, and thus the ratings system can now be reformed and the previously banned games can be re-submitted for classification.
Actually it is only illegal without proper adult supervision......children can see r rated movies if accompanied by an adult and so on.
I am against censorship completely. As with most things like this the people that thought of it had their minds in the right place but it can be abused for the wrong reasons. Especailly if what is getting banned is not known.
Aty least you Aussies get The chaser's war on everything.... I definitley like the lounge music arrangement of cannibal corpse. That must've been a slap in the face to censors!!!
Two of my favorite quotes regarding censorship:
And, finally, here are some completely gratuitous pictures of penises to annoy the censors and to hopefully spark some sort of controversy, which, it seems, is the only way, these days, to get the jaded, video-sated public off their !@#$ing arses and back in the sodding cinema. Family entertainment? Bollocks. What they want is filth: people doing things to each other with chainsaws during tupperware parties, babysitters being stabbed with knitting needles by gay presidential candidates, vigilante groups strangling chickens, armed bands of theatre critics exterminating mutant goats. Where's the fun in pictures? Oh, well, there we are. Here's the theme music. Goodnight.
Monty Python's The Meaning of Life
Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak because a baby can't chew it.
-Mark Twain
Quoting SwerydAss, reply 110Actually it is only illegal without proper adult supervision......children can see r rated movies if accompanied by an adult and so on.Er... showing a child an R rated movie is generally considered illegal, depending on your country, of course. The ratings - at least in most nations - aren't just 'guidelines' rather actual rules that can, albeit usually are not, enforced.Quoting Splitshadow, reply 111Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak because a baby can't chew it.-Mark TwainI always laugh at this one. Two of my favourties:Freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one. ~Abbott Joseph Liebling, "Do You Belong in Journalism?" New Yorker, 4 May 1960To limit the press is to insult a nation; to prohibit reading of certain books is to declare the inhabitants to be either fools or slaves. ~Claude-Adrien Helvétius
Well here in the US you always here the disclaimer" this movie is rated r and children are not permitted except with supervision of an adult" at the end of the ad.
In the U.S., children are allowed to see R rated movies so long as their parents are there with them.
Wikipedia's explanation of the U.S. movie rating system
R - Restricted - Under 17 requires accompanying parent or adult guardian 21 or older. The parent/guardian is required to stay with the child under 17 through the entire movie, even if the parent gives the child/teenager permission to see the film alone.
Interesting copyright fact I just found: David Bowie, already under contract to record his debut album, was forced to adopt the stage name of "Bowie" in order to have any chance of having his music released in the United States, his legal name being David Robert Jones. During the early 1960s Bowie was performing either under his own name or the stage name "Davie Jones", and briefly even as "Davy Jones", creating confusion with Davy Jones of The Monkees. To avoid this, in 1966 he chose "Bowie" for his stage name, after the Alamo hero Jim Bowie and his famous Bowie knife.
TL-DR; David Bowie had to change his name to avoid copyright infringement. I find this utterly hilarious yet a sad example of what bureaucratic, intellectual property belief can lead to. What happens when we copyright all of the available names lol?
ZehDon, one of the advantages to living in the United States is we have no government assholes banning movies and games and deciding who they are appropriate for. The MPAA and ESRB are private organizations who do nothing but give games ratings based on content, they have no power to control sale or usage. We have the FCC but their jurisdiction is purely over radio and broadcast television: cable television is actually exempt from FCC control.
Films which are very high in impact and/or contain any type of violence in conjunction with real sexual intercourse are rated Refused Classification by the OFLC. Films which may be Refused Classification include content that:
Classification is mandatory, and films that are rated Refused Classification by the OFLC are banned for sale, hire or public exhibition, carrying a maximum fine of $275,000 and/or 10 years jail. It is legal to possess Refused Classification material, unless it has been rated Refused Classification due to illegal content (e.g. child pornography).
Yeah, this isn't true in the USA, as has been pointed out already. Our ratings systems are not backed by the power of the government. They're just private organizations that stepped into the role fairly well which allows us to avoid the bullshit that is known for banning video games from an adult population even if its labeled as something else... aka won't rate it, refused classfication, whatever, it's banned. We've got some censorship built into some laws, but its nothing like the aka "anywhere in the world", rest of the world stuff.
Slander an entire nation? hardly. The australians need to get their heads out of their behinds and vote out the chumps who keep pushing it towards a soviet third world country... just like the USA and europe and others who have become complacent and voted in such trash. I have no ill will towards australia and I am presenting the facts as they are. Their censorship of games is wrong, their attempt to censor the internet via a great firewall is wrong, and the attacks on bloggers for protesting those behaviors are wrong. I don't see how you can turn it around as me SLANDERING AUSTRALIA when it is incompetent and downright evil would be tyrants in australian government that I am speaking out against.
I love mark twain.
Although I believe I have vastly improved on the saying:
-Tal Tamir
Twains saying is a person making a horridly stupid argument because he is stupid (which is sometimes, but rarely the case). Mine is a person making a horridly stupid argument as a flimsy excuse to hide their ulterior motives, which is far more common.
actually the first postal game was banned in US but you wont find any articles about it because we have free press here. *cough* *cough*
Actually their are a lot of games that won't even make it into the use because they were banned. Don't think because we have a lot of games her; that known were banned. Also any american made game the gets an AO rating literally commits suicide a 99.9% of the stores in america will not sell an AO game let alone have them on the shelves.
I remember the US version of Sacred was edited so it didn't have monsters being decapitated and spurting blood. Drifted pretty far off topic now but whatever
The Witcher and Indigo Prophecy were also edited to meet American guidelines.
The Witcher is now available in the U.S. in an un-edited edition as the Enhanced Edition. I grabbed that on Impulse for $9.99 on a weekend sale.
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