I have realised lately that store sell mostly console games and there are less and less PC games than there were before. Some people have even said that consolve games have improved so much than PC games are more than likely to dissapears, except of course for some small games like chess, hearts, etc.
It is true that the console world made a lot of improvements. Console games are now as powerful as PC games, they allow you to play online and they do not have the bugs of the PC: compatibility problems, crashes, etc. Like my friend once said: "when you want to play a console game, you place the game in the console, you push power and it works". The only advantage the PC game has right now, is that you can mod your game. Which is only a matter of time since consoles now have hard drives.
So my first question is: Do you think that professional video games would dissapear from the world of PC.
My second question is: Do you think this interest drop for PC games will hinder the sales of Elemental?
There are a lot of holes in your argument but I will focus just on this one for now. Ease of use and upkeep. How many times has the average Xbox 360 user had to rebuy or at the very least send in their console? That little gem of a piece of hardware seems to have an average life of 1 year, and a number of people who have that console are on number 4, 5 or even 6. I don't know about you, but I have a couple of PCs hanging around the house that are outdated for some games, but not all, and none of them require repair work of any kind. Hell most of my relatives have had their computers going on 7-8 years with no hardware repair work necessary. And the previous gaming build I put together (not my current one) can still beat the PS3 and the 360 in terms of computing "power". Considering two of the largest franchises, Warcraft and the Sims, are still focused on the PC I would say the PC is mainstream and then some, and that doesn't take into account certain markets, parts of asia and eastern europe, where PC gaming is still very much dominating.
Can't confirm that with me Nesrie, I"m at Xbox360 #2, only because mine got stolen 2 Christmas ago, while I send my computers 3-5 times at the store to get repaired due to fuck-ups and whatnot.
In my eyes, the only thing Consoles have on PCs is that you KNOW the game (in most cases) will run as it should. You don't have to worry about requirements.
Aside from that, theres nothing I envy about Console gamers.
You know how many times i have to send my PC to the store for mess ups... zero times. I don't need you to confirm the 360 issues, there is plenty of data freely available out there about 360 fail rate, over 50% according to some sources (Game informer).
The other issue seems everyone had forgoten about is the procentage of pirated games being used on pc and consols.
In case of pc are crack are software based and most of the times require you to swap fev files within game folder. In console case you need to remove seals and be prepered you might loose warranty from producer. So many less advanced technicaly people would never do that.
Theofore many game producers realize that releasing console only tiltle will yield them more profit.
Pc gaming will never die out. There is too many pc users out there and also hardware market wont let it die out. If it wasnt for newest pc games i would never moved from my athlon 750 and TNT 2. But only because of games like mass effect crysis and bioschock i had to get quad core and 4870. Even now i slowly think about moving to i7 and one of 59xx cards.
Where in case of console the graphic of the game is adjusted to console hardware, so once you buy console you for next couple of years you only spending money on new games.
Not to mention so many titles cant be played without proper mouse and keyboard.
As far as PC hardware requirements, I had a pleasant surprise recently.
I run a GTS 250 card myself which is good mid-range card and smoothly powers through every game I've thrown at it.
My wife's compter has a low-end card, a fairly new 9500 GT. I'm trying to broaden my wife's gaming horizons with some adventure games. She's been strictly a traditional puzzle gamer forever. Puzzle games typically have very low hardware requirements so she never needed a card with much horsepower.
I found that my wife's inexpensive low-end card could run modern 3D adventure games smoothly with no AA and high texture settings. I didn't think that would happen. I thought for sure I would have to get her a better card. So, you certainly don't need to spend a lot of money to play games on a PC. The cost argument for PC versus console doesn't hold any water for me anymore.
One thing I think would be interesting is if someone were to compare net operating costs of a computer that is configured to be able to play most PC games and a console; both would have, we'll say, 1-2 games every 2 months purchased. Costs for repair and/or replacement work (like hardware replacement/upgrading, software upgrading, in the case of the '360 complete hardware replacement) would of necessity be included.
I personally think that the net operating costs of a gaming computer would be less, as it will likely last longer.
The utility of any PC overshadow's what a console can do and will likely ever do due to licensing rights associated with consoles. The power of a PC will most likely always overshadow what a console can do.
Consoles have always fit the nitch that allows households to play video games without the fear of having to troubleshoot complex hardware and software issues. Heck, even my 60 year old mom and dad play video games on a Wii. This just isn't feasible for most when it comes to figuring out issues with PC games. We have also donated old consoles and games to charities knowing that some lucky kid will be able to enjoy the games. I would never consider this with a PC.
I do wonder how multi-player gaming will impact PC game sells in the future for titles that exist on PS3, 360 and the PC. Given each system have isolated player bases, this may influence someone to buy on the 360 or PS3 because the player base may be perceived as larger or more consistent. I find this compelling as I can't play against my son in COD MW2 on his 360 with my gaming PC. My only choice is to purchase the game for my 360 if I want to play the game with him. Yes, we have two 360's mainly because I caved to get my kids off the main T.V., plus we use my 360 for dvd's and netflix in addition to games.
In short I have enjoyed games for Atari, Nintendo, Sega, Playstation, Wii, Xbox and PC games over the last 30 years and plan to continue to play good games when time permits regardless of the system.
To me, the big advantage of a console is the ease of use. Operating problems with PC games can be a real headache sometimes. You never really know if a game is going to work well on your PC until you've already bought it. It's a non-issue for consoles. However, I'll never buy a console. Playing games on the TV doesn't work for me. I suppose I could run a console side-by-side next to the computer, but that's a hassle considering I can play most of the games I want already. Why have two boxes when one can do the job.
I use a 40" TV as my PC mointor so that wouldn't be a problem.
There is one possiblilty I will buy consoles. It all comes down to motion controls, the future possiblity of the PC not having said motion controls (and thus inherinatly not any exclusive games based on them) and developers doing very good things with said controlers. Also if Daivd Cage makes another game thats console exclusive, I might buy one then. And then kill him. (Not really. I wouldn't buy one, Id still kill him though.) (Actualy both of those were jokes, David Cage's life is safe in my hands. But only if he dosn't do another game with an "AI" in it.)
Anyway back to the motion controller. I doubt there will be a single developer that creates a must play game based on motion control. On PC TrackIR and the like only help you out, not make the game but Ill keep watching.
A good gaming PC is always capable of out performing the latest generation console from what I have found. Therefore, I am not worried about PC gaming. I have literally been hearing that PC gaming is dead since 1996. Enough! It's not going anywhere. Hell, as consoles become more complex they will have to feature the same input devices as computers. An X-Box 360 is really nothing more than an outdated gaming PC w/ a stripped down version of Windows. Over time as the vidiots who drool all over consoles want more and more and realize that the machines are getting too complex for a start button and a game pad - they will look to their PC's.
And the PC Gaming Alliance would agree. Last year, according to their retail studies, PC gaming profits went up 3%. The thing is, fewer and fewer PC titles are being bought in a retail environment anymore, and since Steam, Impulse, Gamersgate and Direct2Drive (or direct buys from a publisher's web site) aren't tracked, those numbers don't 'count'. In fact, retail only counts for 20% of PC sales these days, hence the reason the numbers seem to be dropping like a rock.
We still have 200 years left to catch up to the Ottoman Empire.
"An X-Box 360 is really nothing more than an outdated gaming PC w/ a stripped down version of Windows"
LoL. An XBOX is a box with parts who are setup to do only one thing = play games. Hardware and software is all optimazed just for this one purpose. There is no 3rd party drivers or services in background which eats up resources. Sure you can outperform console. But when ps3 was released you wouyld have to spent aroun 1500-2000$ to match its performance. Where the console itself was about 700-800$.
Why do you think there is no PS3 or Xbox360 emulators out there (and still wont be for fev nice years). To emulate PS 2 games
(with 300mHz CPU, 32 RDRAM and 4 mb graphic card running at 147 mHz) emulator developers recomend you to use Core 2 duo @ 3,2 ghz or better, 8600 gt or better and 1 gig of ram.
Now imagine we will get OS that is only focused on 1 thing: Playing games. What a glorius day that would be
Then you would have a console.
You counter my argument how? Yes, yes, gaming PC's out perform consoles, so you agree. For that $2,000 you can do a lot more than just game with said PC though, and have better gaming at that.
What exacly more are you doing with your pc then you cant do with console. Mind that x360 have been given internet browsing capability lately.
Most average users will focus on:
-Playing games
-Movies and music
-surfing net
The only thing that console cant do right now (mind that i said for average user) is office work. But since you can connect mouse and keyboard to xbox 360 and even run ubuntu on it who knows what willl happend next.
Final tought is:For average user console is cheaper and easier to use then pc for playing games. The amount of money and time you need to put into configuring pc that will out perform console right now is not worth the effort.
What the hell dude. PS3 has a browser and you can install Ubuntu on it. 360 has neither.
Dude read up. Get your facts straight.
PS3 if diffrent story all together. You can use muse and keyboard to play some games or FragFX (some people say its better), use it as hd tv setup box, blue ray player and much more. Hell you can even emulate windows on it
Wow. Yes. I'll totally get my facts straight...if anyone in this thread actually agrees with you.
Otherwise, you're completely clueless.
360 net browsing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b_G00Ma7jU
360 running ubuntu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwTI9leSmlI&feature=related
The pc gaming is dying argument was just something made up by game companies who want people to only buy games on consoles so gamers would have to be forced to pay for mods and the like. It will never die since all games are produced on pc's and not all gaming companies are that money hungry. also rts,sim and fps are easier to play on pc and will always have a fanbase there.
except two worlds, universe at war and many others that DIDN'T run as they should(on consoles) and your left with no way to reconfigure the consoles to make them work. of course you did say in most cases not to mention some gaems get unit limits on consoles due to hardware limitation(c&C 3) or limited multiplayer options. (supcom 2) only 4 p layer multi on xbox while 8 player on pc
Only easier because of mouse. But this baby will change it LOL
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Methinks they don't like hotlinks.
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