Talk about anything here.
Thats the obvious answer.
And people are greedy for what? Money.
And why money exists? Thats the question
Okay...So the root reason is this.
People.
Are.
Lazy.
They want everything, and they think they deserve it.
(Hmm...I'm beginning to think Greed and Laziness are the same kid putting on two costumes so he can get candy at the same house twice...)
-Twilight Storm
I'm lazy but I don't think I'm greedy.
Same here.
Ask yourself this question and I'll do the same:
If you had a million dollars for some inexplicable reason that had nothing to do with your own hard work or an inheritance from a relative, what would you do with it?
I watched the first 5-6 minutes, and got bored with it. The whole shtick of the guy giving a speech at the beginning about how man has not changed or whatever was the kind of thing I went "well no shit Sherlock, what a brilliant mind you've got" to.
Quite frankly I think that Games Workshop may be right with their Warhammer 40,000 slogan- "In the grim dark future, there is only war".
@Twilight- I could think or say whatever I wanted on that matter, but I'll never truly know what I'd do until it happened.
@Morpheas- How is LoL USA server working out? and when are ya gonna add me?
This is really sad, really really sad.
No comment here
I am sorry to say it, but you dont have a clue.
Also, I want to add that, people will devote thousands of hours from their life, on forms of entertainment and information about meaningless things like celeb gossip, or a new product etc, but not even 1 minute to think or listen to something concerning their lives, as well as the lives of every human being, our society, and its fundamental core which is so corrupt, that only a human mind could have created it.
I cant say I'm surprised, but honestly, I feel sorry for all the people who have accepted the world as it is, they were trained since their birth to accept everything, and they will FIGHT to protect they way its built.
Morph ignored me
/cry
Sorry I was writing my post, and the page refreshed only when I posted it.
I will play LoL with ya later, is that ok?
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Thats fine morph and I know I was jking
I didn't say I wasn't gonna watch it. In fact, i said i will. Just needed ta wait for the vid to buffer.
And whatever is said, don't put every last thought you have into the idea that it is right. Nobody can ever really know for sure why we are the way we are, no matter how badly they want to. I gave my theory, that's what I believe. (I just didn't want to go into a big long explaination on it.)
Morph, it's fine that you bring this to our attention, and although some may argue that this is for your ego (though I don't), you neglect to notice/consider one crucial thing: we can't change things.
Only those with power can change the world effectively, and save for miracles (whom usually become martyrs), all of them keep to the current system because it keeps them in power. Money talks, far louder than what one can find on the internet, and its megaphone is corporate television. No person that will read these forums or watch that film will reach a position of power; maybe inspire others to try and continue to teach tohers, but never truely bring change. Call me a pessimist, a liar, but find me three examples of disproof first.
Of course the evil world today could only have been wrought by the human mind, but that same mind shall forever control what it needs to keep the order of things. There was the evil system of Feudalism in peasant Russia, and and after a successful revolution supporting the utopian system idealized by Karl Marx, the nation was despised a foreign, as godless, as evil, and Marx the same. Dictators like Stalin gave us westerners the excuse we needed to make the system evil in the eyes of the rest of the established world. McCarthy trials, the Red scare, everything was employed to prove that we were right and/because the "others" were evil, and we were willing to fight pointless wars and fund/supply terrorists to make sure the "enemy" would be despised. This enemy is not a nation, but humanity itself. Humanity itself does indeed exist, but only in very few people.
These few people are those who think for themselves, who are open to new ideas but analyze them before considerring acceptance, who understand that they amke no significant difference in the world but try to enlighten regardless.
Humanity shall endure forever, not by divine rite, not by ingenuity, not by progress, but by preservation of of the horror of what can do, what we have done, what we will do, and how evil itself ironically loves the human race.
Μάθετε τώρα, και spead τις γνώσεις μας. Κάποια μέρα, κάτι καλό θα έρθει? Και εμείς, πολύ νεκρή, θα είναι σε ειρήνη.
I agree with IFear. But I only require 1 example. (If you can find one, then it's already disproven, so why do you need 3, IFear?)
Okay, Morph. I really did try to watch that, but it's not for me. The first four minutes are somebody's eyeball with some wierd music, come on.
Once it got to actually starting, I lost interest.I can't take somebody seriously when they won't even show their face. Show me somebody physically talking about this, and I promise I'll watch it and keep an open mind, but this is the kind of thing that put me to sleep back in high school without fail.
It's not the message, It's the format used to convey it. I lasted 7:32 into it, skipped ahead a few inches at a time, then closed the window. To its credit, that was longer than I ever lasted in school.
Doesnt matter to me. If you dont want to watch thats your choice.
I simply gave the invitation. Now if people dont want to come to the party, thats not my problem.
Hmm, did you use a translator program here? Cause the second part doesnt make much sense
About your post, I kinda agree, but:
Oh yes, we can. The only thing that is stopping us, is the will to change. We dont WANT, and we dont TRY to change anything.
You are right, only those with power can change things. Because the game is so well built to be unfair, cruel, misleading, deceptive and generally inhumane, that NOBODY in power can change anything even if they really truly wanted to.
If the most honest, decent, kindest person in the world was elected President of the US tomorrow, he wouldnt improve a single thing.
But thats were you are wrong at the same time. Because we (the common people who dont have any power) have the REAL power in the world. We are the majority, and we can decide what we want for ourselves, we can kick the goverments and the banks out of their thrones, and all we have to do is make that choice and fight for it.
You asked for 3 examples? I have only 1 extreme measure of changing things, in our society, the way it works, and the whole fundamental system:
I live in Greece. In my country, strikes are as common as earthquakes in the US. People are striking all the time, but not organized neither in large groups. People have huge loans they are unable to pay. 80% of the population in greece owes money to some bank. If EVERYONE stopped working for a small period of time (say 3-5 months), while borrowing more money from banks, do you possibly think that the goverment would attempt to somehow contain them? How can they? The police are not robots, they are people like you and me. The military are not robots, they are people. They would be part of it. We can overthrow the goverment at any time, all we need is the WILL to do it.
You asked for an example. That was 1 possible example.
If ALL people in the world, wake up, and decide that they dont want to be ruled by the big International Banks, that they dont want to die from poverty anymore while USA spends 500 Billion $ each year for military purposes ONLY, which is more than enough to feed ALL people around the world, if we simply understand how the system works, and how corrupt it is, then YES, we can do Anything!
Wake up people!
Please dont take my comments as wanting to boost my ego (like you said), or insultive, or cruel. These are just facts, not assumptions, not just thoughts, but pure facts.
From all people posting in these forums, I seriously doubt anybody here knows how exactly the Federal reserve Banking system works, which is Universal, and not only in US. And it is NOT controlled by a goverment of ANY nation or state in the world, neither it originated by one.
It's not that I don't want to watch, the idea behind it is actually something I'd be interested in hearing. I just don't like the style of video it is. I need to see somebody talking to pay attention to it(Just the way I process things like that) When I see a documentary like this one, my very first thought is(Well, to be honest, the first one is falling aslepp in biology with the lights out...) But the next thing is that all there is to it is voice, which is very easily edited. If I can see the person, see their body language and decide if THEY believe what they're saying, then I take their message into concideration. This was a bunch of slides going by while someone was talking. Like I said, if you know of one that gives this message where I can see someone, then I promise to watch with an open mind. But I am truly not capable of watching this format, sorry.
So what is LoL? Might try it out...
Yeah....big companies that produce high quality and well producted documentaries who are owned by big multi-national corporations, REALLY want to produce these kind of videos.
IFear couldnt have said it any better:
Exactly And this is where the game is based upon. On an educational system that is limited, and guided by the same people that hold the power (Banks, not goverments), along with the Media (TV, radio) that are also owned by these corporations and Banks, they teach us only what we need to know, they make us trustworthy machines of labor, powering an empire that is not a nation, not a state, but an elite group of individuals that control the fates of people, decide the turn of the tide, and literally change the world in their own corrupt way.
Banks are the true masters of the game, only they hold the true power, and big corporations are simply their allies, and sometimes their tools, to feed their corrupt but well built empire.
For those who care:
Sigh. Doesn't have to be well made, just someone sitting in front of a camera.
Okay, that I watched(And didn't know)
It's a ridiculous system. Why do we not simply use what the money represents? (IE Gold, Silver, Gems, and whatnot) It makes more sense(IE It makes any sence) since the paper and coins we have have no personal value...
Again, you are being ridiculus, it doesnt matter what you see in your screen, only thing that matters is the words, be it text, or a voice that simply makes sense by mentioning facts and truths.
If you want to learn more about the monetary system, and WHY gold and silver are even MORE exploitable than fictional money, then click on the vid I posted, and it will take you to youtube. From there, you can click on the rest of the video's parts, on the right side of your screen.
This was part 1/5, and I posted it as an example, as its only the very basics of how the monetary modern system works.
The rest show the full extent of it. Each is 9 minutes. Just mentioning it, in case you are lazy to watch.
p.s. Thats my new sig.
I only ask for 3 examples to ward away any half-hearted attempts to state opinions, the most annoying of which start with "but Reagan said. . . ." I don't need lots of evidence, just evidence of quality, and you gave it, Morph, and I thank you. And I suppose Google doesn't translate semicolons very well.
It doesnt, but I was only teasing you I was surprised and kinda flattered to see you posted Greek text for me, to be honest
I'ma stop talking about this before I mistake your posts for a insult to the way I learn. I have to see somebody there, or I physically cannot pay attention to what they are saying.
Shiro I'm ready to play LoL (server is up)
Storm, you should definitely try it. Well unless you hate DotA-like games, then its worth it.
Edit: nevermind, the server just went down, AGAIN!
None of my posts were meant to be insulting or offensive in any way.
I'm sorry if you were offended
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