Ok, so being an old time object dock user, I got the pre-order email to get into the beta. And while $10 - $20 dollars isn't the end of the world,I think it is kinda lame to charge to help you test out and fix your software. Not only do you want us to lay out money to help you fix bugs, but you didn't even give us a feature list of the upcoming ObjectDock Plus 2.0.
Am I missing something here or is this just poor marketing. Don't get me wrong. I love object dock plus, but not enough to pay for something that I have no idea what I'm paying for..
Stardock, you might want to rethink this...
Yes, I think you are...we'll test it and....offer suggestions and request features....which might get added... $10? One less Frappahoozis at Tenbucks.
I have to agree that I'm not real inclined to buy ObjectDock 2. Don't get me wrong, I'm generally a *big* fan of Stardock software - I've been subscribing to Object Desktop for something like 6+ years. What bugs me about ObjectDock is that it's been broken for the last couple years and never been fixed. That is to say that the tray support in ObjectDock hasn't worked pretty much (if I recall) since close to the launch of Vista. And it's not just me - I've seen lots of forum posts with the same complaint. Tray support is a make or break feature for me in a program like this where I want to hide the taskbar. I think they at least fix that before charging for an update. Just my humble opinion.
There's been enough previews to show that v2 is different. $10 to try it out, meh. If it's crap, then they lose out on future sales, and I don't think that will happen.
I pre-ordered, hope it comes out soon!
What's all this about? I haven't seen anything in my inbox or in Impulse...
Same here!
here's the link for an upgrade https://store.stardock.com/cart. I just received the email tonite.
Never mind! I just got the e-mail. I'm paid up and ready to go!
Are they going to put Beta on Impulse for yearly subscribers?
Someone have a direct link, I opted out of emails and dont see it on The SD site. For 10 bucks I'll take the plunge if it works well on 7.
The link you posted Karmat goes to the store Kart.
how bout this one http://www.impulsedriven.com/products/ESD-SDS-W460
John, check your e-mail.
I have ObjectDock Plus. When I pay the $10 for the beta, does that mean I won't have to pay any additional money for the new version when it is finally released?
I think it's great that those of you who have been using Object Dock for years and have gotten your money's worth are willing to pay another $10 for the upgrade.
But me.. I literally just bought Object Dock a few days ago... can't really see paying more money to upgrade something I just bought in the first place.
I don't suppose there's gonna be some kind of time limit clause or something... i.e., people (like me) who very recently paid for the full version can upgrade for free?
My concern is that the only thing that even slightly resembles a "features page", http://www.impulsedriven.com/products/ESD-SDS-W460, mentions nothing about compatibility between ObjectDock 2.0 and 64-bit Windows. The page mentions the Impulse system requirements (which specifies only 32-bit Windows OS), but am I to take it that the ObjectDock requirements are identical to those of Impulse?
I guess I answered my own question. Pretty straight forward, if you read the email. DUH!
Go here,,, https://forums.wincustomize.com/?postid=354618 and read post#5
Go here... https://forums.wincustomize.com/?postid=354618 and read post#13
I'd like to know why a software that is already offered in: OBJECT DESKTOP (annual fee), which also inculded something to a phrase about: "and all future upgrades", Why would anyone have to pay for V2.0??????
Sooooo,
this is a different version? Um, wouldn't that be a upgrade?????
ObjectDock or + is not included with ObjectDesktop
ObjectDock Is sold separately
I'm a bit miffed that we'd have to pay 10 bucks to upgrade to v2.0. OD+ has been around for eons and the product page makes no mention of how far your future upgrades can go. So if a new customer tried out ObjectDock, pays for + features, and then v2.0 is released many many months later. Then you charge $10 for people who want to upgrade?
Yes, there are things like a lifetime license (aka pay-once) and some are marketed like that. But again I reiterate that the product page for OD/OD+ makes no mention as to how far you can upgrade to what version. The product page for OD/OD+ has not been changed nor updated since last year, when they had the promotional bundle deal that ODNT subscribers renew and get OD+ at a discounted price. I contemplated, looked at OD+, and figure it'd be worth a try.
I looked at the post on the other thread with regards to this. And I sincerely hope that they do consider this missing information on their product page for OD+, and perhaps other Stardock products.
This may be true now but when I signed up years ago Object desktop I believe was part of the package.
I may be wrong as I do not remember paying for it separtly. It is one of the reasons I purchased Object Desktop originaly and it is why I always pay my annual subscriber fee!!!
I may be wrong as I do not remember paying for it separately. It is one of the reasons I purchased Object Desktop originally and it is why I always pay my annual subscriber fee!!!
I have had OD+plus from at least 2003 or maybe 2004 through every re-incarnation of it. I am very sure that it came as a promotion part of Object Desktop the same way I got Cursor FX Plus. I know I never paid separately for Cursor FX Plus.
I checked my e-mail from wayback to check all my serial numbers.
I have no serial numbers for CFX+ or Object Dock Plus, I believe both of these came with Object Desktop Ultimate for which I have a serial number.
I Have been a subscriber from 2001.
Would'a thought it obvious,would you expect to get windows vista & then 7 for nothing same goes for nero 6,7,8,9 or any other newer software version,of course not all you get are the updates up to the point the new version comes out,that by the way is the whole idea of subscribing to ODNT continue the sub & you get an upgrade to a later version if there is one, however objectdock has never been part of odnt nor is cfx amongst others,if it does'nt say lifetime why would you expect it to be it makes no sense,by the way if you were'nt sure what you were buying into surely a simple email to support or a post in the forum would've answered it
Edit: in other words do the research before hand especially where buying off the net is concerned
and no CFX to is not part of ObjectDeskTop
I have S/N for OD+ CFX S/N is Associated with Impulse account so it don't show me the S/N
I will up grade after the beta I just can't pay them to work out the bugs....
Iterations of Windows and other softwares were known to not have anything to compensate those who happens to purchase the old version a few days prior to the new release. But when you look at how Stardock structures their products and their upgrade paths, you get a mix of one thing and another.
ODNT is a timely subscription-based system where the versions do not matter. One could have WindowBlinds 6.x and end up getting WindowBlinds 7.0 due to this modal. Products within that suite, if purchased alone, would have a different upgrade path, for which this used to be explained before, yet such information is now absent. And I do clearly say that it is absent now because even WindowBlinds does not have information with regards to whether or not one is buying a particular version (specifically a 6.0), a major version (6.x or 7.x), or any version up to a certain date. Has the system changed? I wouldn't know since I'm a ODNT subscriber.
I do try to do the research prior to purchasing but what good is researching if not all of the information is laid out or presented at the product's page prior to purchasing? A potential customer shouldn't have to really send an email inquiry just to find out something like this. Stardock has this mix of time-based and something else which isn't exactly clearly explained.
I am quite displeased with the fact that Stardock are charging people to participate in the beta. Sure, at some point down the line this charge account for the updates between 2.0 and 3.0. However, for the time being, people are paying to test software, make no mistake about that. Conventionally, that's not something that people are charged for since they are doing a good deed to the developer, especially with bug reports and notifications of incompatibility issues.
There also seems to be a distinct lack of information. What is the feature set of this beta? What are the system requirements? Where is the changelog? What is the refund policy? Information seems to be either fragmented between forums/posts or non-existent. Stardock is eager to take the money, but is rather vague on the details.
I appreciate that no one HAS to pay for OD 2.0 Beta. That being said, it strikes at the heart of the principle that, after so many delays and lack of updates, people have to pay to try to see if bugs/incompatibilities that they have experienced are ironed out. Why can't existing OD+ users have free access to a time-limited 2.0 Beta? The cost of providing that beta for free would be off-set by harvesting input of people who participate in that beta to make the product work better, leading to higher sales.
I also noticed that some people made remarks implying that $10 is a petty amount. I am happy for you guys that you have such deep pockets to shell out impulsively and cut your losses if it doesn't work out. Not everyone can do that and not everyone should do that. It is fundamentally wrong to charge people to test software (even if there's a perk of getting an upgrade attached to it).
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