http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Politics/president-obama-good-term-president/story?id=9657337
Obama would rather be a really good one-term president, than a mediocre two-term president.
What do you all thing of that statement?
I, personally, think that if he made a "really good" president in his first term - he would be re-elected for the second by popular vote.
I also think that he simply wants to advance the agenda of 'the powers that be' (that put him in power in the first place) at whatever cost, either to us (the wee people) or to his personal chances of being fairly re-elected for a second term.
Obama is simply a puppet.
(?I guess that is why he can not seem to speak with any fluency without the strings of the teleprompter )
Pretty much all US politicians are puppets to big money.
I think Obama deserves another go, he started with a huge mess, unpopular wars the US is largely commited to and the financial crisis that Bush was happy to leave for somebody else to sort out.
I am worried that he won't rock the Wall Street boat too much, and so the rich will stay rich and the poor will stay poor, but no free-market loving Republican would touch Wall Street so keep Obama in and see what he can do.
I agree with you here.
But not there totally. The people that put him in power was a majority of the American people, but he is kowtowing to his base (those that are ideologically in sync with him and would vote for him regardless of what he does).
Bill Cinton moved to the center when the American people repudiated him, and won a 2nd term (albeit by a minority of voters). I do not think Obama can do that (Carter could not). He is not smart enough to figure out how to do it. SO he will be a terrible one term president (with any luck - the stupidity of the American voter knows no bounds).
If you're lucky he'll make it so you don't need to work to pay your bills, being the good lil Robin Hood that he is.
I can't say how it was for real, but during the election (I'm in Quebec, Canada btw) it seems Obama's sole and only argument for anything was saying "CHANGE" alot.
I dunno..it seems everyone was fed up with Bush, then someguy arrives, talks about how we all need change in our lives and everyone votes for him...I mean. form my POV, it seems he had no other plan or political agenda than to bring "change" to the people, whatever that change is and what it'll do/cost, who cares, it'll be diffrent than bush, therefore, it's good
And seconded on the teleprompter...he seems to loose all ability without those lil' devices, like a good proportionos of politicians
I disagree, change isn't always good and just because some people did not like or understand what Bush did is not a reason to vote for someone who promised the world but can even provide a rock.
Obama did promise change and people fell for that line because they just didn't want Bush, not that they were gonna get him again. What most people failed to understand was what that change line , what changing how things are meant. Sure, one can take something that doesn't work and change it for something that might work better, but to go from one thing to another and still be in bad shape is not change, it's bad choice in leadership.
When people voted on Nov 2008, they were hungry. And there is a saying that when you go grocery shopping you should never do it when hingry, otherwise you end up spending more money and buying things you may not end up liking or needing.
Yeah, but my view is from the outside of the US..which makes it more saddenning to me; just have some president no one lvoes anymore, put any good looking guy on the stand afterward and it'll be a done deal.....
That and your elections last for a year or 2 at least..man that makes for horribly boring and unintresting news...et agian ours last 30 days and it's 29 days too much..maybe I guess people get fed up with the election craze they simply vote to get it off thier list rather than "really" exercising thier obligation
That is definitely a recipe for disaster. Sometimes I think Biden himself could have been elected President if he had ran with the dislike for Bush being the motivation.
....or as we joked here, a Hilter clone with a tan...
Obama bashing much?
Obama is way too compromising. He reaches out to far to the centre instead of playing his base, which may I remind you all won him the election and more importantly had(almost has now) the supermajority in the senate. The american people want a more leftist approach(socialism:P).
I'm a canadian, so what I say might not count much.
I wonder if anybody could of done any better. When you get a country in shambles, wars and then a financial catastrophy it's hard to be a very good president by any standard. You have to take the time to clean everything and then you can try and work your agenda.
I for one am very happy that he is pushing public medicare. To me it seems that the rich people just want to poor people to suffer and die without any medicare.
The mor people you have that are healthy the better off your country will be.
Give the guy a chance to clean up the mess other people made and then you can evaluate him.
Good luck to him. In my opinion he is way better than Bush.
Seriously? Obama won the Presidency because he wasn't Bush and the status quo. And did Massachusetts really go Republican for the 1st time in 40 years because they want a more leftist approach? I'd call that backlash against the overly leftist approach that's already being taken.
No lol. What you call leftist is compromise after compromise. In polls 32% of the people opposing health care say that's because it compromises too much.P.S. Massachusetts is a local election with a very bad democratic candidate, but gratz on the win anyway;-)
"I, personally, think that if he made a "really good" president in his first term - he would be re-elected for the second by popular vote."
Then you would have to assume that ppl are intelligent enough to regocnise good leadership. Lets face it, most ppl are not. Why would you assume that americans (or anyone else) can always evaluate a president unbiased and reasonable? Im all pro-democracy but I think your faith in it goes a bit too far.
I'd like to see those polls, lifekatana, and what the other 2/3 of people oppose it for. And the in the so called 'local election with a poor democratic candidate', the 'poor democratic candidate' was up by 30% last November.
There's the reason he'll lose in 2012 - this notion that we're too stupid to realize what a Godsend he is. People pushing this meme are doing BO no good. Insulting voters is not usually a good way to secure their votes.
Instead of talking down the 'idiots who don't understand' he needs to respect and persuade them. If he can't, he doesn't deserve a second term.
Charles, I dont think Leader was agreeing with the statement, only making an observation, and from one south of the border, I agree with him. You are right about change, but he was not saying change is good, only that the electorate saw it as good. And that is all too apparent both by his election, and rapid decline. Even with the support of 90% of the MSM.
Well, there is a koolaid drinker! To date, Obama has not reached out at all, and that is why out of all the republicans in congress, he has gotten one (1) to vote with him. He decided he did not need them, so he said screw them. And the people responded in Massachusetts with a resounding - screw you Obama!
He might try to reach out now, but I hope his ego gets in the way. He is a disaster waiting for a byline.
Pretty much Dr Guy...
I isolated that one for some reasons: one- the country will be better (as in the people) not the economy...I'm from Quebec, you're in Canada....I heard (and hear still today) of many, many MANY abuses by people of that freeheatlhcare business.
10 years ago 10 hours wait in the emergency was a horror.....today 10 hours wait in the emergency room? Holy hell, you went fast throught the line!...Yes, because lots and lots of people go to the emergency room for small things..like a cough "It's H1N1!!!!" hurted knee "I need surgery I'm sure!" etc etc etc..if they were paying for healthlcare, I'm sure the wait won't be of 24-30 hours in the emergency room just to see a doctor.
"pretty sure they wait less in Haiti...that is before the earthquake.
2- Socialism doesn't work..sure it's all ncie on paper and all, but the moment you ahve some lazy elements or people who will play tyhe system or abuse it..the system falls.
US healthcare needs a serious looking at. Who wants to live in a country where some rich kids insuring loans between other companies who have taken on NINJA loans cause you to lose your life savings, your in your fifties and there is no hope of getting the house back let alone buying another and your health is going downhill.....
My wife, who is from the US, tells me private healthcare costs around $600 a month for a family. Not everyone can afford that.
If Obama can change healthcare in the US I'd say he's a good one term president.
Popular vote has 0 influence on who is elected president in the United States.
From what I've heard and read about the health care bill here (which is definitely going to fail) was set up to force people to buy health insurance from the government at a reasonably high rate.
Obama really shouldn't be president right now. He was voted in for many reasons
Who has a free market? Armica has a mixed market not free.
Most black people I know gave into obama faster then a crackhead to a crack rock. But what happens happens america has made their bed and now they must sleep.
That's for what we made the impeach - remove process. (Although it is almost impossible unless 75% of the senate and house of reps deplore the president and have good reason to remove him)
The election wasn't just about Obama. It was also about an old man who said he wasn't a good economist, oblivious to how important the ecnomy would be at the time; who acted erratically several times towards the end of the campaign; who picked an unknow vice presidential candidate who botched most of her interviews and gave Americans little else to judge her by; and who in general didn't represent a strong enough break from his predecessor.
The election was an election, it wasn't liberals getting together and making a super candidate to jack off to like the chick from Weird Science. McCain/Palin was the weaker ticket, and it lost.
You know what the best part about all you guys pointing out how Obama has failed to get healthcare passed, close gauntanimo, get us the fuck out of Iraq/Afghanistan, be more transparent, etc.? You've bought into to idea that those things SHOULD be done. If nothing else Obama has shifted the mentality of the US from "if you don't agree with this shit you're unpatriotic, fuck the idiots who don't have healthcare, and onward Christian soliders, let's liberate the Middle East from itself" to what we have now.
He has dramatically transformed the political climate and whether or not he completes his objectives whoever comes after him will either tackle the important ones or getting harangued just like Obama, whether it's a Republican or Democrat.
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