This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here: http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615
Why create this thread?
Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho. It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are. That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category. So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out. Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other. So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.
Your part if you want to participate
Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today? I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc). I'm happy to have everyone's feedback. I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight. Perhaps we'll get games going. You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted.
You can nominate anyone you want. To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list. If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.
I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each. Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.
Tier 1 Demigod Players:
Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well. They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5. These are players that do not cheat or desync games. These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game. Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.
Tier 2 Demigod Players:
These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same. Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2). The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players.
Tier 3 Demigod Players:
A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...
Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:
These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat. You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.
Good point. Gamereplay's have been kind of inactive since 1.2 tbh. I was meaning to upload a great match that I played some days ago (with people on this list if I am not mistaken). The problem was that I played a single game afterwards to test out a new build... So that failed.
I got 4 games on there so far
Btw i would also like to officially ask pacov to add teseer to the list as he plays well while stoned.
Woo!
Huh...Wait...what?
Because he sucks? Because he is a HORRIBLE team player(-plays practically only 1vs1, and everytime I beat him he wants one), is rude, speak very bad english uses only tier I characters and oh yeah cheats...\
So everyone agrees with my list? Cut them out!
I put five replays up. I win in all of them because I'm narcissistic.
Yes I've won in all mine but that's just because I've never lost a game ever...
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So everyone agrees with my list? Cut them out!"
Obs is making a joke because everytime he loses he desyncs the game so the loss doesn't count
Oh.
oh.. u werent? LOL
Not a terrible idea
Red for noob/not good enoughGreen for good playerGrey if you haven't played the guy. oo7_warhammer (ub + reg)2nanaAbuggeredhedgie (sedna)AlbertoAlterschism Amazing_Hero (oak)Archon_SAAR (regulus!)Armyhomestar (erebus) inactiveAtma44x (torch bearer)Bad_Wong (erebus + oak)Bier_Kanonier (oak) I have beaten Bier in every game he has been in with me.bloodlustBRiiGHTT (erb) inactiveChaotic-Hawk (reg)Cosmoe (qot) inactivecowbuttzex (tb + oak)Darz4 (qot)Dark_Satana---> not that good imodestroyer989 (reg, but good w all)DiceAreEvil (demon assassin)Epiphenomenon (beast)ErksaConti (sedna)eXborderline (oak + erb)eXXcentric (nominated himself)FutileEmotiongaabrielgkrit (oak) imo his UB is better than his oakgl_Mithrander (oak + erb)Hemp_GuyHeros-Temp- (amazing with everything) doesn't play unless teams are stacked/his rook gets structural transfer hiroshima (rook)iamKira (beast + fire tb) irek1988 (reg)Izuz (oak)JaY_BuDiJayKayz (erb)Jona_ (beast)JudeTepeskalelSmX (beast + rook + reg)Ke5trelkiller_oak(oak)Kingslet (oak)Kitty0007 (beast)Lethstang (oak + ub) lifekatana Lordi17 (oak + erb)maglaMcGregMcshane (sedna + tb + oak)mixmagicMooks67 (reg + erb)morpheas768 (erebus)Murder_DN (erebus) Should be UB not Erebusmybones92 (support oak + mist erb + rook)Naur (oak + da + reg)NinjaAlkNinkiCZ (rook + everybody)nzacObiwhan (oak + beast)Obscenitor/horsestrangler (rook + beast)Ogham (oak + sed)Orcun_BL (reg + beast)pacov (beast + reg)Pants (beast)Peterdumptruck (minion erebus/minion oak)PhYCEPlaygroundLegend (rook + reg) -acct banned? inactive I don't count banned playersPosidenii (rook)rawrrr (beast)receiverSakkeSevenixShade (erebus)Shinobinomono (rook)Shred_demon (demon assassin)spooky_ same as alter.SupafishySwoxksThatGuyYoulove (added by someone then voted himself in once , oak)trousersnake (rook + beast)Tukulistshughes (erebus)VesuviusViras (ice tb)WindsweptStone(sedna
My list is being very strict, I have not played with many of the players enough to make a call one way or another. I also cut all inactive players because they are no longer the best demigod players even if they were pro like PlayGround.
I totally was. I couldnt find a good stoned smiley. So that one had to do
hahaha
aw cow you redlisted me, I'm crushed ^^
It's true though, we don't win many games together...
Let's update the key a bit:
op updated... now in painful Christmas colors
Sorry Kestrel you were on top of the game until you took your leave of absence after coming back everyone caught up to you and or got better than you. I still think your a great player I am just being a stickler, I also cut Bier and Kira because I have not been impressed by them lately.
Honesty, my list should not be the one used. Please feel free to agree or disagree and fill in the missing people. Discussion on who belongs on a stricter list should not be left to one person that hasn't played with half of the list.
Ke5trel - I've found you to be quite solid at creating builds and great regarding making strategic build decisions. That said, in the games I've played against you (nothing recent, to be fair), I never consider myself threatened. Alot of that could have come down to who was on your team at the time, of course.
hehe... deal with it. We can update the list as needed
A bit more complex but this is my pruning (I've been recommended by a couple people so think my opinion is justified)
People I have played several games with/against and consider a Tier I player (green list): -
NOTE: My Tier I is people who give you no room for a single mistake and will epically punish you for it. You can be an excellent player but not be Tier I because even though you may not make very many mistakes you might not be able to capitalize on your opponents slightest mistakes.
ErksaConti
FutileEmotion
NinkiCZ
Orcun_BL
Sakke
tshughes
People I have played several games with/against and think they are Tier II players (above average to extremely good):
abuggeredhedgie
Amazing_Hero
cowbuttzex
eXborderline <- weak late game though :-/
gkrit
irek1988
Jona_ <- weak early game though :-/
kalelSmX
Ke5trel
Lordi17
McGreg
Mcshane
morpheas768
Naur
nzac
Obscenitor/horsestrangler
Ogham
pacov
rawrrr
Shade
Shinobinomono
trousersnake
People I have played lots of games with/against and think they are Tier III or worse players (average or worse than average - redlist . Note that these people tend to fall more in the "average" category than the "bad" category):
Cosmoe
Darz4
Heros-Temp
hiroshima
Izuz
JudeTepes
Peterdumptruck <- he is a good player but he can't adapt and minion builds fall apart end game typically. He also tends to be a very angry person which makes him unenjoyable to play with or against
People who I have played a limited number of games with and have been impressed (recommending for Tier I/II - possible green list):
2nana
DiceAreEvil
Epiphenomenon
Hemp_Guy <- seems to play stacked games though?
lifekatana
Supafishy
ThatGuyYoulove
WindsweptStone
People who I have played a limited number of games with and they did not perform well each time (recommending for red-list):
oo7_warhammer
Atma44x
Dark_Satana
Kitty0007
mixmagic
People who I have only played one game with/against and they did poorly (may have tried new build/demigod/been drunk, just had a bad day, etc)
Bad_Wong <- only plays stacked games
JaY_Budi
perhaps the best way would be to copy the list in the OP and indicate your changes in bold + a reason by that line...
Incoming transmission from PlaygroundLegend:
"So, my hard drive died and I haven't been around in a bit, and for that I apologize. I would like to say thak you to pacov for trying to bring the top talent together in this post. But, I must say that I am angry with my automatic d/q because starcock banned me from the forum, I am not banned from the game as I have taken over my friends account, DemiMore. Although I agree with my nomiations for rook and reg are pretty and my mad 133333377z skillz with haX0r those characters, I think I should have been nominated for "greatest motherf**** of all time." instead.
Simply because of this:
http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&tab=popular&show=details&id=101345
Beating Orcun and Rezn0kuken without a favor item as Erebus.
and this:
http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&tab=popular&show=details&id=99098
Beating orcun and morph with a pug with beast.
Now, as amazing as I am, I cannot say that that I am the greatest DG player of all time, but I am the greatest mofo and forum troll. I think Dice is the greatest player at the #1 spot, followed by Naur. Dice taught me everything from the start, he was my sensei. 90% of the builds out now originated from him at some point. Even if you never saw Dice play or talked to him about a strat, he had it before you at some point.
Morpheas is one of the most adaptable players out. He doesn't have a mic, but he knows what needs to be done, I don't need to ask him for anything, he tp's when he needs to, covers flags, see ganks, buys cit upgrades and drops items for me to pick up without even asking, his map awareness is clutch. He's a great player and a great friend.
Hi, Cowbuttzex
First, I dont want to patricipate on this discussion "How are the best players"
You have beaten me last time on 13th August 2009, this is the first and only loss against u. (Easy to check because I dont play that much, and I only have 79 losses in Epoch 2, didnt checked Epoch 1 and beta games, sorry)
I think your statement is worthless, and sorry, I dont have the time to check, if I ever won a game against you.
You must have a really incredible memory, you should go in some of these TV-show to win a price there .
In my understanding Thatguyyoulove is a good player but yes it's true that he only plays stacked teams.
P.S. Nice Dice, I always questioned Orcun invulnerability. Although the comments are quite... enlightening.
P.S. Nice Dice, I always questioned Orcun invulnerability. Although the comments are quite... enlightening."
I've beaten Orcun 2v2 as well but I think that he chose a sub-optimal team (UB + Rook. No monks). Most likely because he underestimated irek and I but w/e. Maybe he was just having a bad day? Wouldn't be surprised D:
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