This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here: http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615
Why create this thread?
Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho. It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are. That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category. So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out. Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other. So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.
Your part if you want to participate
Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today? I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc). I'm happy to have everyone's feedback. I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight. Perhaps we'll get games going. You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted.
You can nominate anyone you want. To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list. If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.
I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each. Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.
Tier 1 Demigod Players:
Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well. They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5. These are players that do not cheat or desync games. These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game. Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.
Tier 2 Demigod Players:
These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same. Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2). The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players.
Tier 3 Demigod Players:
A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...
Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:
These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat. You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.
Howboutnoooo for tier 3!
This sounds right.
DD_Karebears for tier 2 plz (he should have been there ages ago IMHO, wasn't he already suggested?)
Okay, maybe I'm being a douche here, but then again this is what this thread is about.
I'm pretty sure a lot of people on vent will agree with me on this one. I don't think putting myself, Zoahr, Karebears, Celmare, Soccer and Grahf as the same level as howboutnoooo is reasonable or even slightly realistic. If you are putting anyone who goes on vent in Tier 2, then move the above names somewhere else. That or have a Tier 2.5.
kare added.
back to those definitions I was talking about... THEN re-org time.
Honestly you won't even be able to set it that high because there aren't enough Tier 1 players anymore.
And everyone else in Tier 3?
Great.
I'm with you Shred even though I've never seen you play great or even well, the difference in skill between tier 2 players is quite drastic; you forgot some names though and it's not just howboutnoo who is the problem. There are several people in the tier 2 list who don't deserve to carry 2Nana-the pride of Korea's teleport scrolls (Jona_), yet they appear to be the same skill as him according to the rankings.
All the Koreans moved on to StarCraft.
I should play more games with you shane Feel free to browse my games list
also on a side note i think the only one who should decide anything is pacov because of peoples hate toward each other like mcshane's and koushes hate towards ninki and shredys and my hate for each other we need people who have no feelings toward any one to choose where people are on the list
Yes we should, I think we've only had 2 and then I saw a replay of your blade of the serpent fire tb which I disagree with so my opinion is based on limited experience.
Nice one http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1405897/player/51161/. I hope you told Jona he was a noob after this. And post the replay if you have it please, it would be great to see Jona try to play Oak vs Hemp_boy.
Don't hate you at all dude, I just gave you my opinion. You can't say I haven't had enough experience playing with you.
I don't know about the Ninki debate, haven't played enough games with Ninki and only seen him play Oculus.
What I was trying to say is if Tier 2 is a very wide ranking (as it apparently is) then we are doing it wrong. I think that's one of the things Pacov et al. are looking at in reworking this.
Koush's ponderings...
Tier 1:Orcun
Tier 1.5:Boxxy_Koush
Boxxy_Renz
GM-Zen_God
GM-McShane87
Boxxy_Mithrandar
RAWRRRR
Tier 2:
2nana
Pacov
Nomliarac
GM-Janook
cowbuttzex
kalelsmx
abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie
PeterDumpTruck
Tier 2.5:
Shreddy (Slowly creeping up to tier 2, I like the guy)
Magnus3333333333
DD_Karebears
Soccer-mom
NinkiCZ
The rest of you.
I didn't know where to put Howboutnooo, cause when he usually joins me, he yells "Down with the boxxy menance!" and leaves.
I actually think my list is pretty good.
(This list was not created with biased ponderings in mind)
shane stands kind of out with that blue lol
Pacov, I honestly don't think you really need a write up on the standards each tier looks for. Once we split the tiers up a bit and shuffle people around I think they will define themselves.
The only thing I think tier 1 should be is " THE MAGIC FACTOR" which makes them stand above the tier 1.5 people.
agree!
nominating MosteM for Tier 2 (LE)
he usually joins me, he yells "Down with the boxxy menance!" and leaves.
This made me lol
I've converted to blood fire TB for 2v2s now
Fogive me for my dg build transgressions!!!!!!
http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&show=details&id=128355
And now for something completely irrelevant.
JEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWW REEEEEEEEEEEEGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Jew Reg )
http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&show=details&id=128357
Hmm not the replay I wanted Shred but I'll give it a look.
Also none of my comments have been addressed to you howboutnoo so I don't know why you quoted something I said then responded.
the Jona_ one? I'll have a look tomorrow, not sure I saved that one but I'll look
Found it:
http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&show=details&id=128361
Yeah, my playing is alright here I think anyway I remember screwing up at one point because I pushed too far with Renz on the mana side. Was being too greedy
We couldn't get ABorn out the hp flag, so we forced him to move by pushing really hard the mana side and from that point on things went more our way.
One of these things is not like the other One of these things just doesn't belong,
Can you tell which thing is not like the others By the time I finish my song?
See, I don't know about that. At least the way I think, clearly defining categories is a good starting point. I suppose throwing people into categories does define them to some degree, but then it quickly becomes abstract.
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