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Why create this thread?
Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho. It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are. That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category. So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out. Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other. So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.
Your part if you want to participate
Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today? I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc). I'm happy to have everyone's feedback. I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight. Perhaps we'll get games going. You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted.
You can nominate anyone you want. To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list. If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.
I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each. Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.
Tier 1 Demigod Players:
Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well. They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5. These are players that do not cheat or desync games. These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game. Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.
Tier 2 Demigod Players:
These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same. Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2). The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players.
Tier 3 Demigod Players:
A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...
Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:
These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat. You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.
That is debatable. He played strong with Oak in our 2 vs 2 today until he completely blew the game at the end by forcing me to port right to defend a portal against beast even after I told him in plenty of time, watch that one while I defended you (Queen) on the left. Not only that after I died locking the right portal he just let the other one get taken. Pretty sure any English speaking tier 2 player would've listened in that situation and not cost us the game. Is he decent with anyone other then Oak?
EDIT: oops double post
He plays a lot of characters, and just because he made one mistake in that game doesn't mean hes a terrible player. I am sure you have made a mistake before too.
I've made probably thousands but I'm not sure there's been many times where I directly cost my team the game after I was asked to do something that would have saved it. Also I'm not saying that he is terrible, I've seen much worse, but the criteria for tier 2 isn't just "not be terrible."
Imo if he wasn't tier II worthy the game wouldn't of lasted like an hour. He certainly pulled his weight in that game and many other times I have played with him he has done very well but I can't find a damn replay
I agree he pulled his weight until the end where he blew the game in the last 5 minutes. Does pulling your weight for 90% of a game still count? That's where we have a disagreement. However if I hadn't made a couple silly mistakes we wouldn't have been in position for him to lose the game like that so I'm partly to blame too.
IMO, Xynth is an excellent player.
He always does cita upgrades before his gears and ports for ganks and shield whenever he can. He has a strong Oak/UB/Reg build....DA is blah!
Does anyone know what happened to lifekatana? Oh and Ragarth?
no idea.
I still don't really have any reservations about Xynth to tier 2...
edit - removed kingslet from tier 1 - he's been gone for well over 30 days.
I think Zen_God should be added to tier 1 or 2, he is a very solid player and if you have played with him, you know that he is very skilled. Since im not tier 1 i dont think i have much business requesting someone be tier 1, but I think Zen_God is as good as most of the tier 1 players, at least from what I have seen posting is nice sometimes. which wins a werewolf or a cyborb?
cyborg.
Zen_God certainly fits into tier 2. I'm sure its an oversight that he is not listed here. Potential for tier 1 imo.
Zoahr for tier 1 - woooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
I've picked him as my new favourite since Morpheas stopped playing
He's not as noisy as Mr. Mighty Morph or does he get as annoyed at me when I'm saying shit to him, but whatever.....
Zoahr for tier 1!!!
I just got back played heros-temp- and zen_god they should def be tier 1!
If zen_god is potential for tier 1 then he must have got a lot better very recently
Well heros-temp- should def be tier 1 he carries every game i play against him. Why do you think hes ranked number 1.... because whoever he plays with her makes them win.
Heros temp is ranked 1 because you only see Heros playing stacked games
EDIT: Oh and a certain GM members name needs to be changed to McSauce
^The only thing preventing him from being in Tier 1 is the fact that he can't speak English. He can't coordinate as well with other players.
Ive played him a lot with balanced teams =/. The only drawback he has is like ninki says he doesn't speak english.
that might be a valid point,but he doesn't strike me as tier 1. He should be tier 2 though.
Well after playing two 2v2 games with Zen_God I think he deserves to be tier 1 and I think a couple of people would agree with me.
Zen God is great at 2v2 not the same at 3v3.
you are wrong. Bullshit problems on both games with trouser dropping from vent without me knowing. It resulted in me porting places without him, missing snipes, etc. I wouldn't object at all if you had a solid win and there wasn't some crap nonsense going on.
As it stands, I'm not more impressed with either of you... just fugging mad that I couldn't communicate with trouser when it mattered.
Doesn't mean he ain't qualifed... just means those games didn't show me anything other than bad connections = fail.
zen is pretty good. I don't like him to know that I think he is because he has started to get cocky lately, but let's just say I no longer think I can beat him in equal circumstances 100 out of 100 times, that number has fallen to maybe 75 out of 100 times lol.
Oh well you should of said something I didn't know you guys were off vent.
Well one thing i know not to do now is play against u two with random 50%s on my team.
Lol, it looks like cow got you with the no spit beast Jona? You gotta be careful out there.
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