So the 1.2 finally comes out... First game I play, someone on the opposing team drops and every gets a desync error and the game quits 5 seconds later...
too late for a refund?
Email Sales@stardock.com. Maybe try playing more than one game before posting?I always find these threads interesting, because I've never seen this. Ever. Not once since release day.
Well, you've only played 50 games since the stat reset, and the critical gamestate error was implemented in a hotfix to 1.1 which came after the stat reset.
So yeah, that doesn't really impress me much?
Stop saying this already, ZehDon. It is really annoying
Everybody who plays demigod often, gets the Invalid error. Since you dont play at all, like abuggeredhedgie said:
You cant talk so much about the game's problems.
Invalid Gamestate Error, is one of the game's most critical issues
people clearly hallucinate when they see invalid gamestates.. Zehdon is the only sane person in this game.
Yes!
Or all demigod players in the world have shitty internet connection, except ZehDon.
Also, ZehDon is right, and you guys are wrong, listen to him, he has played like 80 games
Eat that!
Demalii: The game's still worth playing. The 'invalid gamestate' seems to hit me about 1 game in 15, and can be caused by players pulling the plug to avoid a loss, or game crashes. No way to be sure that I've heard of.
You just got lucky, 'invalid gamestate' and dissed by ZehDon all in one effort. Welcome back.
LOL Mikhail!
But yeah you are right.
I think i have even played about 30 games in a row without an error. and sometimes i get the error maybe even 3 times in a row, so yes it is a matter of luck, or better say, how many hackers are playing when you are.
All in all, i think that about 5-8% of games i have played have ended with an Invalid error. Thats not bad actually, but not good either.
Its an "acceptable loss", kinda
As I constantly need to explain to people here, I play mostly over VPN's rather than play Public games. I usually play three games a night, every night of the week. The roster changes daily, and I play with a random selection of around 20 people who have access to our VPN. The issue may effect a percentage of the player base, however that percentage is disporportional to the percentage not effected by it. Of the 20 or so people I play against, no one has ever seen this issue. Ever. I'm not saying it's not real - I'm just saying it's not as bad as the OP likes to pretend it is, and the fact that there are no less than 3 threads currently covering this exact issue on the front page should be more than enough. Post in one of those.
INVALID GAME STATE IS NOT AN BUG. It is either a very very rare incident that is core to the nature of p2p(but you should only see this once in 10.000 game or whatever), someone having some very computer issues(but again not a fault in the game engine) or most likely Someone is trying to cheat.
ZehDon - you might be onto something the programmers need to know. If it doesn't happen on VPN, and, believe me, it DOES happen on the net, maybe that will help in the diagnosis. If there's something about the VPN connection that eliminates the problem, maybe that helps find the flaw in the programming/bug/irritant. And there still needs to be another solution when somebody doesn't figure he should take a loss, so he exploits the game and induces an 'invalid gamestate'.
One of my teammates lost his internet, in game, last night. Took a couple hours for him to get service back. But the game did it's job. It counted him down, and replaced him with the AI. We took a loss for it, when the remaining player and I could not overcome the other 3 guys.
I've posted in multiple threads about it, PRECISELY BECAUSE I'M HOPING SOMEONE WILL FIX IT !!!!!!!!!!! I have seen no recent feedback in this thread or any of the other threads from Froggy or Stardock that they are working on it. There was a report in the 1.2 patch that something in the game was fixed to prevent it, but maybe that was another instance.
Oh, and ZehDon, please post a forum guide to every noobie that he should read every freakin post ever made before he posts for the first time, so he doesn't repeat something you've already seen.
Now that i've vented, ZehDon and all of you have a great Thanksgiving and Holiday season.
Well, still doesn't impress me. Surprise, surprise, I never get invalid gamestates whenever I play PM v PM or with my friends, only when I'm pugging or playing against pugs. Why? Because hackers do it. The fact that none of your trusted 20 friends are hackers impresses no one and means that your expierence is purely anecdotal and has no actual similarity with the actual condition of Demigod. I would assume you would be able to realize that you trust the 20 people of your VPN enough they wouldn't be cheating (plus, as the game isn't recorded in the first place, there is no point in desync'ing either) that they wouldn't do it and you wouldn't try to be all 'lol, doesn't happen to me!'
Thanks. See yeah 'round.
I get the invalid gamestate errors on average every 30 games or so. I haven't had many, and I've played over 200 games. They are there, but IMO the game is worth playing. It has some crashes, glitches, and lockups, but we can help that by submitting good bug reports. As a developer, the better the bug report, the easier the job was to do, and the easier it was to do, the faster it got done.
If you get an invalid gamestate you can email all the relevent data to support, including your LastGame.DGReplay file so they can hopefully see the state of the game before the desync occurred.
My God, ZehDon you are really annoying!
I have see you post in other threads, saying that the Invalid error happens only when people have connection issues or a computer problem.
Now you are acting like you "know" it is an exploit, by people who dont want to get a loss. You just dont want to admit that your argument:
So yeah you play with some nice people who are not jerks, and they dont try to exploit/hack the game.
What does that have anything to do with the rest of us?
Also, since you do know that it is jerks who cause this error in order to avoid a loss (finally you have figured it out), and you are so smart knowing exactly how it happens, why dont you try to help SD/GPG to find a way to avoid these exploits?
I am not trying to look smart, dumb, annoying or whatever.
I am simply trying to say that me and other people who have spent a LOT of hours playing, and have a lot of games online, have seen more Sh!t in this game than most people. I am not saying just me, but many people who have played over 700-800 games total, since the infamous Invalid gamestate error first appeared.
First of all, stop saying things that i never said. Frequently = more than 50%. What i said is that i get the annoying error about 5-8% of my games. That is not frequently, that is rarely.
Secondly, Do we both agree that the error is caused by assh*les 90% of the times it happens, that dont want to get a loss?
Also, since you clearly know more techinical stuff than me about connections, how could I know a solution to this? I thought you did know something, but unfortunately you dont.
Third, I agree with most of the things you said, blah blah blah, but clearly you are avoiding my arguements about you not playing ranked games and thus, not having to deal with random jerks who exploit the game.
Since you are not playing with random players in ranked games how could you ever get the Invalid Error? Nobody from the 20 people you are playing with are jerks who are trying to desync the game, apparently. I am gonna say it again:
Invalid Error = 90% of the times an exploit/hack.
4th, if you want to make arguements about what i said, answer properly. Like when i said that what does playing over VPN have to do with a person playing a random PUG game that it is ranked. Or about everybody else who is playing Demigod for that matter. Btw, you didnt have to explain what VPN is, i think i have "heard about it" before.
Last but not least, I understand that the NetCode of Demigod is solid on that matter, and i remember saying in one of my posts a long time ago, that the Netcode is crap, which is not the case, i was wrong about that.
Is that what you are defending so much in every post you make? the game's NetCode? how Solid it is? I dont understand why you are fighting and defending it so much since people complain a LOT more about other problems/bugs, but this.
We can keep this up all day, but i am too tired to do it. Just state your facts, (you already did) tell us your opinion, and lets leave this post get buried like all those old demigod-has-issues posts before it.
Cheers,
Double post sorry,
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