Digging these ideas, if you guys feel it necessary on some level to introduce these high-end favor items.

Kudos to Sorian!  Sorry they keep moving you from project to project, but I am really glad someone with your talent is working on DG for us!

For those of you that haven't checked out his latest blog related to this:  http://soriandev.blogspot.com/2009/11/demigodagain.html

The cost reduction on the items are very welcomed indeed.

I share the sentiments of the others here about the high end favour items too. Each favour item should cause another to become obsolete.

Also, I, too am disappointed with the listed changes for Queen of Thorns.

The damage and HP increase for each spent point in Entourage makes the skill underwhelming but at the same time you have no choice but to spend points in it if you still want to field Shamblers.

With 8 skill points spent completed in Summon Shamblers and Entourage, the total buff to the damage and HP of each Shambler is a mere 3 DPS and 120 HP. This is practically negligible at the stage of the game where you do manage to complete Summon Shamblers and Entourage's skill trees.

I would prefer the previous full Entourage buffs be completely moved to Summon Shamblers and have Entourage grant a new kind of buff.

Sedna's Yetis are already designed this way, splitting damage/HP and attack speed into Horn of the Yeti and Magnificent Presence respectively.

Perhaps Entourage can grant increasing levels of HP regeneration or amour for the Shamblers or even a passive chance to "entangle" their targets for a 0.5 sec interrupt (QoT has no interrupt at the moment). Basically something with more utility value that will make them more relevant late game.

WOOT!!!!

lacking in the creativity department much? basically took the 2 most used favor items in the game (coz they are so effective) and made an even more powerful version of them.

"Spirit of the fallen is too OP", "Nerf Spirit of the fallens max health" threads, comin up!

and i dont consider this much of a buff either... oh great, an extra 100 max mana. i think a bit of mana regen wouldve been nice to go along with it.

and as for Qot, is that rlly a buff? i rlly hope that this is only a small section of the list of things QoT needed to be buffed on.

HOWEVER, i love cost drops on those equips. i think now we'll see a 'variety' of equip builds.

Nope gkrit, you lose the health, down to a minimum of 1 hp.  So it won't insta-kill you, but it does th enext best thing.

The high tier favor items just don't do anything good for the game.  I don't know what their intent is.   Let me just ask this, since I think it is easier to talk about: What exact benefit do you see for the game by adding more, stronger, favor items?

I think it does the following things badly:

1. It further increases the discrepency in power between new and old players.  A new player will now have 600 less health and 3 hps compared to one with the Spirit.
2. It narrows the possible 'good' favor items down even further. If you had created 4 new items that were of different types (not just health and mana) to existing ones, it would create diversity, but these just create polarization.
3. They create a feeling of elitism even more than currently exists.  5000 favor for a single item is a whole lot for a casual player, and to get more than just the one will require you to feel like you are 'grinding' for favor instead of just playing.

Not much that I can add at this point. The new favor items should just be cut, or turned into regular items. They'll only widen the gap between new and older players, and make most other favor items completely useless. I was also hoping for a bigger QoT buff, but healing towers sounds interesting.

Otherwise, great job.

I don't know who started a rumor about this SDK, but it doesn't exist.

I agree with others here. Boo on the high-end favor items.

In fact get rid of the favor all together. Favor just a pointless grind to get item you need anyways. How about you balance all the favor items against each other equally instead of assigning a cost to them. Then new users can do less grinding or dying to get favor they need and more time playing the game equally with others. I think that the item is a cool idea and adds an additional specialization that is desirable but the cost just seems pointless to me. This was the same issue with the Team Fortress 2 idea of achievements unlocking new weapons (At least in TF2 each weapon had a pro/con assigned to them).

Don't get me wrong, there's a lot of good to like about this update. I'm excited that the TB fire auto-attack was changed (*psst* now the ice form needs a minor buff).

In the theory that more voices are louder, I would just like to lend my complete support to those who object to the high tier favor items. Please do not add them.

Just checked... horn of battle is +10 health per second PRE-patch.

Yeah I was going to make that same comment.  Either it is going to be a buff, or someone is very confused.