Warning: Some minor spoilers within, you Will be Warned what to skip if you wish to avoid them though I will try to be vague enough that it won't ruin anything for you if you read that section anyway.
I don't say this too often, but in this case, Believe The Hype!!! Dragon Age: Origins is the RPG Experience of the Decade. This is the most fun and epic story that's been done since Baldur's Gate. I don't want to give away any story secrets but, needless to say it's Amazing. I've already been part of a huge battle, had my destiny put to the test in "The Harrowing" which is the test you take to become a mage, and found not one, but two love interests. Lets go over some of the features that Dragon Age has to offer.
Below: My character standing between his master at the Circle of Magi and a Templar of the Chantry.
Character Creation: Creating a character in Dragon Age is actually pretty easy, especially if you've played "Dungeons and Dragons" before. The tried and True formula of picking what you look like and picking spells and abilities proves it's-self once again to be the best method currently to date for Role Playing Games. Where Bioware has stepped up their game here is in customization. You have complete control over the facial detail that goes into your character. If you're familiar with the Sims 3 or the last Morrowind game then you'll recognize a lot of the options here. Every aspect of the face can be moved, resized, stretched, and heightened or lowered until you have a face that looks the way you want it to look. I dare say if you're good at 3D modeling with sliders then you could put your own face on your character.
Interface: This is truly the spiritual successor to the Baldur's Gate series. In this respect though is where the differences between the PC version of Dragon Age and the Console version of Dragon show through. The PC version allows the player to scroll out to a over-head view reminiscent of Baldur's Gate. You can pause to tell your character or party what to do and then un-pause the game to see your orders unfold. The Console version Does Not give you this withdrawn 3/4 over-head view. Again the PC's superiority shines through. I would recommend the PC version over the console version based just on this option alone. I hear this is the Only difference in the two versions of the game though aside from the menus which are radial in nature on the console version (like Mass Effect). Still, if you've played Baldur's Gate then this interface will feel like putting on a well worn favorite glove. It fits the game, it fits the setting, and the over-all feel to the UI is simply perfect.
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Story: WARNING: Minor Spoilers Here though I will try to be as vague as possible. If you'd like to skip this go to the next section starting with a Bold Category. (After the line ======== )
The story in DA:O is one of the best stories Bioware has come up with in a Long Time. To say it's "Epic" would be the understatement of the year. I'm almost 10 hours into the game and from the start it's been action packed and full of twists. The land of Ferelden is torn by strife and mistrust between the various groups that are in power that govern the land. There is a war brewing against the Darkspawn and a new blight that threatens to destroy everything and the various races and factions in the land are fighting amongst them-selves as well. The Dwarven nations have all but been wiped out by the Darkspawn and the war hasn't even begun in earnest. The Elven homeland was wiped out before against another blight that threatened the world in Ferelden's past. Indeed this is not the first "Blight" nor is it the first time the Darkspawn have threatened to over-run all in existence. The players choices can change how many things play out in the story and not everything is the same every time. Many factors, including what conversation options you chose and your ability to see them can change the outcome of various aspects of the story of the game.
You meet various people who will join your group as you progress through the game. The player can switch between these people at any time though only 4 may come with you at once. What's nice is you can chose to change your party composition any time you want except during a fight. Depending on who you have with you some quests and dialog options may be different. Also the characters in your part have approval ratings with how they get along with you and with each other. If you make a lot of decisions that make someone unhappy, don't be surprised when they decide to leave your group. They may even go as far as to try to kill you or another party member.
Graphics: The visual presentation of DA:O is beautiful and elegant. The world comes to life in all it's high fantasy glory. When you enter the Fade everything gets blurry to show it's a dream world. When you're in a dark dungeon the lighting fits the scene. When you are outside the weather changes. Everything is done in such vivid detail you'd swear you were part of that world making the big decisions that affect the lives of all those around you. I haven't seen a better looking RPG in years. IMO it is by far better then Oblivion, Risen, or anything else you can think to compare it to.
Sound: The sound in DA:O is awesome. The soundtrack is moving and epic in scale. The music always fits whatever context it needs whether your just walking around talking to NPC's or fighting a horde of Darkspawn that have ambushed you on the road. The voice acting is Top Notch in Dragon Age and they pulled out all the stops when hiring the cast. Such well known actors and actresses such as Tim Curry, Kate Mulgrew, and Claudia Black all play amazing parts in the game. The epic nature and feel of the music alone is enough to make you think you're right there taking place in the battles.
Battle System: In DA:O the battle system is just like it was in Baldur's Gate. It's a tried and true formula of pausable Real Time Strategy. You can pull amazing feats in battle that are all shown on screen. Have your fighter shield bash his opponent to the ground then run him through with your sword. Use magic to freeze enemies solid and then shatter them. Ogres and Dragons and other huge monsters can pick your party members up and throw them like rag dolls. Physics matters and is represented visually. Blood splatters and runs down your weapons and armor. Fire leaves scorch marks on the bodies of slain foes. Arrows stick out of body parts and characters and monsters alike react to where they've been shot. It's RPG combat in all it's glorious perfection.
Everything in Dragon Age: Origins has been polished and shined to the point that it's honestly hard to find any faults with it anywhere at all. If all games had this level of detail and this much love put into crafting them we'd be a nation of video game addicts who never left our homes and the human race would die off because everyone would shun real life. This game is a Experience that must be played to be believed. If you've been thinking about getting DA:O and haven't made up your mind then stop thinking and Go Get It!!! You won't be disappointed.
Ok I didn't read the spoilers since i have not finished the game, but this game is FUN!
Did you finish it already?
Anyway, I'm playing a dwarven commoner warrior.
I'm roleplaying like crazy too. I hate elves, I insult them at any cost, (I haven't met any yet, but I WILL INSULT them SEVERELY!). I'm taking a don't ask don't tell methodology, if someone comes to me with a problem, I let them deal with it, unless the problem looks like it could benefit me. Hell, I just play a angry dwarf, and I found a bottle of ale! The problem- I have to gift it to someone. So hopefully I can find a stumpy hairy woman around sometime .
Finally a game that is challenging. I seem to be using alot of injury kits so far...
What I hate about the game so far.... Elves are in it.
Oh no, not even close. I'm only about 10 hours into the game. It's actually pretty safe to read the spoiler section now that I look at it. I don't give away any plot spoilers, just a little background on some of the politics of Ferelden.
On a side note I hate most of the Elves in this game so far. They're all a bunch of weak willed pansies.
Technical performance?
I've been playing Bethesda's games a lot lately, and while they do great sandbox RPGs, storytelling is not their strong point (to put it politely ) The fact that Bioware's games have always had interesting stories, and that i've heard this game IS actually challenging (unlike Bethesda's), i'm seriously considering buying this. Since i wasn't originally, i've also avoided all hype and spoilers.
Steam reveals that my system meets the recommened specs, so performance SHOULDN'T be a problem (unless this is another GTA IV/Prototype), and it's good to hear that BioWare still makes PC UI for it's PC versions (again, unlike Bethesda).
Only thing holding me back is this party based combat. Is it like Mass Effect where you mainly control one character, and can give commands to companions but who also fight by themselves, or do you have to control each individual during combat? (I haven't played Baldur's Gate)
It runs smooth as glass on my rig, but, I've got a $2,000 gaming Rig so I don't expect anything less. The minimum system specs aren't that bad really. They're even less if you're running on XP and not Vista. So far I haven't had any glitches of any kind except one time I couldn't restore it after minimizing it. That hasn't happened since though and I seem to be able to minimize and restore as often as I want without a crash or lockup.
Both. It is like Mass Effects yes, but, in Mass Effect I only got the feeling that I was one character (even though I controlled the whole party). In DA:O once a character joins your party you control every aspect of it. You can also program the AI for each character in game through a option so you can control it's behavior when you aren't giving it direct commands. The system resembles K.O.T.O.R. as well. All of this is a variation on the way Baldur's Gate does things. Don't let that stop you from getting this sweet ass game.
Also, go get the Baldur's Gate series. You should be able to get all of them on the cheap now and running them won't be a problem as far as requirements go.
How extensively can they be programmed? I loved the Gambit system in Final Fantasy XII, and if DA has a more advanced system than it was, then it's another good reason to buy it.
I also I have a topnotch computer so I really can't tell you how the technical performance is. This game is kind of like a very long movie, it is that detailed.
are oyu sure about that?
on videos and screenshots it looks rahter dull especially the outdoor enviroments.
I am going to be a lonely warrior pretty soon the way I've pissed off just about everyone in my camp except my dog hahah.
If you have not passed the second city don't read further
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So If your nice to the dwarf merchant and his son they come to your camp and sell stuff! And AWESOME stuff. So my question is, did any of you tell them to go shove off, and if so, did they still end up in your camp?
Sounds pretty nice, I must admit, but I'm wondering: how does it compare to Mass Effect, in terms of storytelling, roleplaying and such? because I generally prefer sci-fi settings in my RPGs and I don't know whether I should wait for ME2 or just bite the bullet, sacrifice all my other gaming purchases this year, and get this.
Quite sure. Though I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I played through most of Risen less then 2 weeks ago now and I like this a hell of a lot more.
I would say that's up to you. DA:O isn't your standard Fantasy Rpg. I've played a lot of RPG's in my day and even though many of the aspects feel the same, a lot of them feel different as well. There are a lot of mature themes that are dealt with in the quests as well.
I'm considering getting this (or at least adding it to my Xmas list ) but I wasn't sure if I should get the PC or Xbox version. I've heard that the Xbox graphics aren't nearly as good as on the PC, that they're all washed out, etc. Has anyone seen both? Is it really that bad in comparrison? And then there is the standard edition vs. special edition. Is the special edition stuff worth it? And added to that, the Xbox special edition is $15 more than the PC special version ($75 vs. $60)
The Stone Prisoner came with mine and I bought the Wardens Keep DLC for 7$. For 7$ it was a great deal. The quest you complete there isn't all that long but it has variable ways you can do it depending on what decisions you make. Plus the reward you get...well I can't tell you what that is, but, it's very, Very useful. It was worth it. I haven't seen any pics of the X-Box version but the play footage I've seen of the X-Box versions looks the same from what I could tell except the console version doesn't have the far back zoom option. If you think your PC is more powerful then your 360, go with the PC version.
Since you put spoilers. I didn't read what you wrote except for the last paragraph. No offence. But I would have agreed with you nevertheless. Totally addicted to it now. It has everything I hoped for in a BG2 spiritual successor.
The only minor negative I found was the camera position is not so great if you are on a hill(or an overpass) as it is too behind your back. The top down view limits your scrolling distance based on the character selected(it is very limited compared to BG2). But these are things which I've already got used to now.
Also I'm not a fan of the tactics slot. I also didn't like the idea of tactics slot tied to combat tactics talents. It would mean people that would like to use more tactics(AI tactics that is) will have to invest their talent points on that when you could have invested it in some other talent. But since I micro manage tough battles its just something which I can ignore.
Hrm, ... On the DA board over at bioware many have complained about the graphics being quite crappy/outdated. Especially on consoles. But when I've bought my copy I'm gonna see for myself. I'll just wait to see what other issues arise in terms of bugs and other probs before I purchase it.
Thanks for the review - I will get this when I buy a new rig sometime in the spring or late winter
Amazing game. Holy crap.
Well, i bought it, trough Steam since EA doesn't believe in european Impulse customers
With my crappy internet connection it should be ready sometime saturday, i really need a faster connection or start to buy games on discs..
Ugh. Ugh. UGH. I fell for the hype, I fell for all your opinions, and finally preordered the Deluxe version on Steam (yes, preorder, the game doesn't come out 'til tomorrow here in South America).
I hope either Impulse and Steam refuse to make any 'must-have' deals from now until ~Feb 2010, or I find a better-paying job by then because those $65 murdered whatever little was left of my entertainment budget and then some. I hope its worth it.
Now, gotta go job-hunting
Ouch...Saturday? I tink I would have rather went to the store.
Job? You need not a job. You are a Grey Warden now. Your only job is to kill Darkspawn!!!! Have fun.
You get several "tactics slots" which are basically if-then statements. If "status" is true, then do "action". There's a huge amount of statuses and actions that you can pick (I'd estimate around a hundred). And you get more tactics slots every few levels or you can spend skill points on them.
double post. sorry
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