OK, so I know that people who are students can get copis of Windows at discounted prices. If they bought a copy and then, for what ever legit reason, decided not to use it. Could they give it or sell it to someone else, not necessarily a student?
I'm curious cause I have a freind who does not want his copy that he will be getting because he got himself a Mac as a birthday gift and decided he did not want to use Windows anymore. I told him about using Windows on his Mac with that virtual program but he did not want to hassle installing it. So I figured he could sell or give it to me. Would that be OK? I researched but could not get a straight answer online, always a lot of details but nothing that speaks clearly in a few easy word.
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Very nice. I'm now on technet too.
Sweetness.
I've known about previous Action Pack stuff, but it didn't seem terribly fitting for me at the time. This will definately work.
Thanks for the link, mate, I'll look into the coupon thing when I'm ready to purchase... that's if I do. Despite others, non-IT people doing it, I'm still concerned about the licensing. I'm not in IT and I don't write code/software, so I don't know that I'd be legitimately evaluating anything.
The reason there's a $12.75USD and $23AUD amount is probably taxes... it states on the purchase page that the price does not include applicable taxes... but $384 all up in nothing to sneeze at, considering what's in the package and what we normally pay over the US for software/OSes here.
Since day one in this skinning game we [skinners] have been 'evaluating software'....the stuff we are using is pretty consistently always in Alpha or Beta.....one way or another....
Amazing, I have an old P4 computer that barely runs COD2 and 2 laptops. You got enough parts to build 3 more PCs just sitting around. What the hell am I doing wrong? LOL
Be that as it may... or that may be the case, whichever, it still doesn't answer my license query. Made a few pirate and Medieval icons from photographic images I took, but I'm not exactly a skinner, either, so what could it be (I say) that I'm evaluating??
It's like this, ya see! My luck is so bad that if it were raining hookers I'd get washed down the gutter with a horny hunchback and a jar of vaseline, so yeah, I feel the need to validate/legitimise purchasing an 'evaluation only' license...otherwise I'm the unlucky bastard who doesn't have a plausible explantion when MS catches me by the short n' curlies.
Maybe it's not what you're doing wrong, but me.... Like maybe I got all these spare parts cos I broke a lot of stuff and they're the left over good bits.
Nah, while some of the parts are leftovers from previous upgrades to mine and the missus' PC's, I have become the extended family's repositry for old or unwanted puters, spare parts and cases, etc. To date I have built my son and daughter a rig each, my nephew one and my sister one, mostly from spare parts, though a couple of times we had to pick a bit of extra RAM, or sometimes a new graphics card was needed.
Yup, we pretty much recycle everything of use... furniture; electricals; household utensils; it all gets handed down/passed on to help out others in the extended family group.... sure beats buying new all the time, particularly in these hard economic times.
I'm not in IT right now, but it is a large part of my skillset and I do own my own company (though it is mostly inactive.) If I do get back into it it'll be good to know a lot more about what Microsoft offers overall. I'm keeping my $50 7 preorders active since it does infer that these evals are not meant for live or development systems, and I'd like to get into coding very soon.
If I wasn't so sick of waiting for 7, I suppose I might not have gone for it But it could get me a job someday, so there is that.
That's what is bothering me... that my usage/intended usage would probably not qualify, thus I'm thinking I'll just can the idea.
As an alternative way of getting Win 7 on our 3 currently functioning PC's I looked into going the 'Family Pack' route, which allows installation on up to 3 machines. However, I was unable to find any clear/conclusive information regarding its pricing or even its availability here in Australia.... just a lot of conjecture, assumptions and a bunch of what ifs/maybes.
One article suggests the Family Pack will not be available here (only the US, Canada, Japan and 6 EU countries); another gives possible pricing on both the upgrade and full retail versions; another suggests it will only come as an upgrade version for the Australian market... while Microsoft Australia has no information about it whatsoever, which to me is piss poor just 10 days out from the official release.
I fired off an enquiring email to Ms Australia, so hopefully I'll get a conclusive answer in the next day or so.... though I'm thinking MS will lose some sales here if it's not. I'd be quite happy to pay a bit extra for a 3 pack family license (as a few friends and other family members have also indicated) but it is highly unlikely, to no chance at all that I'd put Win 7 on more than one rig if we can't get the 3 pack license. To get Win 7 Home Premium (full) on our 3 working rigs would cost $997 AUD... $1299 if we put it on the 4th when it's finished. Nah, it just ain't gonna happen, not in this economy and not at those prices.... not when Apple is offering Aussies a 5-fer family license on its OS-X 10.5.4 from $229.99 AUD.
Apple does do some smart things, but you still pay for it with the expense of their hardware. Plus, we get service packs that massively improve the OS...I've no experience with their products mind you but I've heard they often get to pay for it.
Seriously though, buy OEM copies of Windows if you can. Sure, it's locked to one machine but it's somewhere around half to a third of the expense. I can't justify the retail prices at all.
starkers...I dunno what your issue is....the TechNet Subscription is definitely the way to go....
starkers,
I also agree with jafo regarding the technet sub.
when I worked in some software development companies, THEY were using the technet licences ONLY on the inhouse development and testing machines, just not on the admin/accounting machines.
and I am about to put my technet sub in as soon as I can arrange the funds
harpo
So what you're saying, then, is that a hobbyist, home user who tinkers a bit with alphas and betas here and there, doesn't write software or code and don't work in IT, is gonna be 100% Ok with a Technet (evaluation purposes only) sub???
AND that MS wouldn't question my usage/eligibility because they'd be more than happy I'd have spent $384 AUD, rather than not/nothing at all?
Yeah, it is that important for me. $384 is like 6 - 8 months of saving like buggery for me... so parting with it HAS to be an informed decision. If it (the Technet sub) went guts up/got revoked for whatever reason, it would end up taking me 12 to 18 months and around $750 all up to eventually get a legit copy of Win 7 (would be Home Premium) on my machine.
It's a big investment for me, so yeah, I'm seeking/needing assurances.
Yes...
PLEASE don't do that...........
Oh well, it'll have to wait for another time.... looked at finances and decided to pick up a couple of copies of Win 7 Home Premium x64 for $129 AUD each. That's $258 as opposed to $384, a saving of $126 that'll come in handy right now... another PC expense may have arisen today. My pimary HDD died yesterday morning.... yes... AGAIN. At 3-4 months old it should be covered by warranty, but Pat (my PC guy) has had issues with returns on Seagate drives lately, so I may have to purchase another if I want a different brand, probably a WD @ 10.000. I certainly don't want another effing Seagate... two in a row have just died without warning (supposedly there have been some bad batches) and I'm not risking another one of those bastards.
Fortunately I have Acronis and a full backup was made the day before... so I'll run that to reinstall the OS/proggies, etc.
It's not the alphas or betas... not even the dickhead hobbyist... but the effing HDD. Yup, another one, and only 3 -4 months old. Could be 6 to 8 weeks before I get any joy from Seagate, so it looks like I'll have to fork over for a WD cos I'll want something decent as a primary when I install Win 7, and when the Seagate is replaced/comes back I'll use it for a storage drive in the rig I'm building... no way I'd ever use one for an OS again.
What a bastard... and I'm having to run my XP box until my Vista one comes back from the shop... thank goodness for the lipstick (WB/IP betas), otherwise this pig 'd be unbearable to look at. And yes, I sent it into the shop... had other important stuff on and I just couldn't be bothered messing around with it
sorry to hear about you hdd death, but I personally AVOID seagate when ever possible, but a person I know has had several samsung's die on them. regarding the seagates I have seen more seagates die than all other brands together, so I avoid them.
Well I've seen two too many die now, both inside 6 months, so yeah, I'll be avoiding them like the plague from here on.... tho I guess I'll have to accept a Seagate replacement for this one. Not to worry, tho, I'll just use it for a (infrequently used but backed up) storage drive in the rig I'm building.
I'm considering a Western Digital SATA to mount my primary OS on, but the 10,000rpm's are all out of my current price range (having spent $258 yesterday on Win 7 Home Pemium x2), so it'd probably be a 500gb @ 7200rpm for a tad under a hundred bucks AUD if I go WD.
In fact, I might take a trip down there now and see what he's got.... so long as it ain't a POS Seagate... and if he hasn't got a suitable drive I'll get him to grab me one on his Friday afternoon pickups.
Hmmm, looking forward to installing Win 7.
Well I finally got a definitive answer from Microsoft regarding this... the Family Pack will NOT be made available in Oz, according to the email I received not long ago.
Bah! Aussies are predominantly Windows users and one of Microsoft's better markets... yet we are snubbed, given the bums rush and neglected. It pisses me off that MS sets our base price at $50 higher than the US base price... and then it creates elite markets by selling family licenses to a select few.
What Bollocks!
Anyway, I fired MS off another email to say that I'm totally disgusted and probably will not upgrade to Win 7 at all now, not in the absence of a Family Pack. I mentioned lost sales - lot's of them because several friends and family members have expressed the exact same sentiment - and that I'm now considering a switch to Mac OS-X, which would cost me under $200 for a 5 pack family licence.
Hehe, must have hit a raw nerve somewhere... just got an apolgetic email back from a customer rep saying that he'll discusss my concerns/situation with his superior and get back to me with: "news that should please you".
Hmmm, I wonder what that might be??
Get used to it be buggered. Given several conversations just today, Microsoft (other software/hardware devs too) will have to pick up its act and get a better attitude toward Oz customers Quite a few people are saying that Win 7 here is overpriced, as compared to the US base price, particularly in light of the weaker greenback. and that without a family license option here they'll be giving it a big miss.
For a company that wants Win 7 on as many PC's Worldwide as possible, they're doing a fine job at alienating Oz and other consumers.
At least they're nowhere near as bad as Adobe on international matters, even if they have work to do. Hell, I still think their US prices are too high, anyway.
I think that ALL their prices around the world ARE FAR TOO HIGH, ESPECIALLY in australia
Yeah, regarding that! The HDD wasn't the culprit after all. I went in the shop today and my rig is running OK with the Seagate as the primary OS drive and all the same hardware it went in there with. Like WTF??? Damned thing wouldn't post at all after a frozen boot and a forced shutdown, and now it starts up/shuts down without issue.
They ran some diagnostic tests on my HDD's, RAM, CPU and all came back fine, so yeah, there is/was some weird shit going on with my rig... like WTF changed from 'no go at all' to 'press the power button and hey presto, Windows boots up fine'?
Oh well, I should thank myself lucky. It hasn't cost me a fortune and I can pick it up in the morning... a stress test hadn't completed and I didn't want to hang around another hour or so.
Yippeeeee.... tomorrow is Win 7 day
Gonna have fun installing and playing with that.
Ehh, probably not. Getting it set up with everything is always time. Time well spent, mind you, but plenty of it anyway.
I lost my Dead Space save due to me being stupid. Ironically, I have all my other saves. *smacks self a few times for good measure*
It wasn't the only game I'm in the middle of, so no big loss, but meh. Going through the first four chapters over again will be dull.
Hmm.....I'm a student.....maybe I should go into business shelling out OS's at discount prices.....
Oh wait, I don't really want to go to Jail.
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