So, now that the first episode has aired, what do you think?
Other than the style (too BSG/Defying Gravity (camera shots and flashbacks) for my taste - it seems the norm these days though) I like it so far.
Good story line, good cast and characters, and a fresh new twist to the SG saga.
Although, why hasn't there been any mention of an actual FTL drive in the other series? If so many ships were sent out with these drives, it should have been noticed by either SG1 or SGA in their searches of the Ancients databases.
But overall, I am looking forward to (hopefully) several more new seasons of Stargate.
and thats not a reasonable assumption? its 3 gates in an entire galaxy, come on...
again the earlier ship was seeding in front of the destiny. so it had to keep going not seed entire galaxies. not sure why the ancients couldn't have jumped to these gates to get to the destiny tho.
so what... the point is to get foot holds in innumerable galaxies and not actually seed the one galaxy thoroughly and move on? no one said the destiny is moving from galaxy to galaxy every single episode
yes, it has travelled through a few galaxies, but no one said it didnt stop and explore each galaxy thoroughly...
it seems stupid and not ancient-y... seriously, seeding three gates then moving to a whole new GALAXY? how many planets did the ancients need? really, seems like bad lore to me
don't know what thier population was. don't know how many they considered over populated.
according to both the bible and science we're do for a major catasterphy. probable a meterierite, according to the bible 2/3 of the planet is supposed to be destroyed/ie the life on it. now if we had pops on the moon and mars. there wouldn't be as big a problem unless of course your part of that 2/3rds.
A few catatrophes for this planet according to the Bible. According to science, in and of itself, there is nothing saying one has to happen. However, with proper doctoring of data, selective reporting, and proper philosophical loopholes, environmentalism certainly declares inevitable doom. Global "warming" now accounts for both warm years and cold years; populations are growing out of control and resources are finite; et cetera ad naseum.
It would be cool to live on Mars though, but the martian atmosphere doesn't protect from asteroids or radiation as well as Earth's, since it is fairly minimal. Temperatures aren't so bad on the equator most of the day though, and the length of day is almost identical to Earth's.
That would seem to be the strategy of the Ancients in the Stargate set of series. In Star Trek: The Next Generation, there was also a mention of an Ancient-type species who were the ancestors of all humanoid life, including Klingons, Romulans, Vulcans, Cardassians, and Humans.
See http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Ancient_humanoid
Season 6, Episode 20, Star Trek: The Next Generation.
This is the developed excuse as to why all (well, most anyway) of the aliens looked like us. It also fits with the origin of life scenario called "Panspermia" whereby life evolved elsewhere and then seeded itself whereever it could, either by asteroid collisions or via spacecraft. It also has the effect of pushing the abiogenesis problem off of our planet.
the orignal star trek delt with it as well.
but what was the purpose of the destiny then? that ship couldnt possibly carry enough people and supplies to populate colonies on multiple planets, let alone multiple galaxies.
if the answer then is to act as a depot or waypoint, a place for ancients from other worlds to congregate closer to their new homes before actually arriving, then fine, but then then the destiny should be able to dial home... or somewhere...
and i agree with the spreading of population, but there are some flaws in that... being seperated from the bulk of their population makes them vulnerable as well, and also isolates them from the resources of the rest of the... idn, Ancient empire?
another thing to note... so far most of the planets visited have not been that friendly to colonisation efforts... even with Ancient technology i doubt it would be desireable... i mean, the only times Ancients pick unfriendly planets is when there is something of worth there, and so far the only value we've seen is not really worth a whole colony... why pick a desert when you can pick a terran planet?
if you say that "a million years" (excuse the generaliseation) has passed, hence the planets may have changed, thats not true, because the seeder ship should be only a "small" distance ahead of the destiny...
long story short im finding a few too many holes in SGU Lore
the earth gate was in the desert too. of course gate two was in antarctica. ie we only saw a small part of that planet maybe 10 miles square. how far can a human walk in 6 hours.
so why put the gate there? you would put it in a favourable location...
plus the first Earth gate was likely moved there by the Goa'uld, and for whatever reason they liked that spot, and the second Earth gate may have been lost, left there by the Ancients simply because it'd be hard to find, etc etc... im hesitant to suggest continental drift because of the time frame but its also a possibility...
maybe or the weather is more predictable in those areas. if you had a choice of hot and dry or wet and stormy where would you want to gate into.
near where there is shelter so it makes no difference what the weather is like...
even if the gate is outside, its a short run to shelter no matter the weather, and if its inside it makes no difference...
while the gate can engage as easily from here as well as it can from 20 or more miles away it makes more sense to put a prospective colony near the valuable resource AND the gate, than to stretch everything out for something as simple as weather...
once you have a colony established you can move the gate. but until then you want to pop out into a monsoon.
how do you suggest moving all the people and materiel required for setting up a colony first through the gate and then dozens of miles through a desert or other unsuitable climate, then set up a colony? even with jumpers or similar shuttles (which we have no evidence of) its alot of time and effort when you could step through the gate and be at the doorstep of where you want to be...
it makes much more sense to put the gate AT LEAST within... idn, 5 miles at the most, then move materials... and if its raining, well, build in the rain... if its hot, build airconditioning... you should have prefabs so set them up quickly... if the ground is too unstable to build shelters, then they need to move or go back to destiny...
weather is simply too insignificant when weighed against the strains of a long supply line
Did you ever consider that you don't have a clue as to how the ancients colonized planets? The seeders' mission could be to plop down gates on as many habitable worlds as possible, disregarding the location. The issues and benefits you consdier, may have been insignificant to the ancients. They may have been able to land a whole city with a static climate and weather protection right there, without hassle, right in front of a gate in the middle of a desert. We don't have enough information on the ancients to have a serious discussion on this...
From what we saw on atlantis they only put one city on each world. a flying city. don't know if it would be a put together ie carry the parts through the gates.
yeah, i agree. in fact, you actually didnt go far enough. who says each planet needs to be colonised? why not a major hub or two with stargates on useful planets but not useful enough to warrant a full time colony?
so, what? in that particular galaxy there were only 3 planets IN THE ENTIRE GALAXY that were useful to the ancients? not even another nice habitable world? and as im sure you can imagine, a city is a big thing... it doesnt exactly fit through the gate...
while you are right in that we dont know what they are capable of, lets stop short of instantly building massive self contained cities with the few resources they can carry through a gate, and shelf it with the existence of Santa, the Tooth fairy, and an honest politician
tracking ship
I like Stargate Universe
Reviving necrothread....yeeeeeah! I have to say, the last few episodes of the first season were very good... I suppose the second season should start soon, looking forward to it...
It starts tonight.
Here's hoping that the creators of this show have learned from the feedback to the first season what their viewers thought was crap, and hopefully still also truncate it.
I second that.
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