Today (August 24) the imfamous torrent site The Pirate Bay has been shut down by order of a Swedish court after several large companies, which have constantly tried to take down the website, pressured to the court to do so. The staff of the Pirate Bay have said they are looking for a new host for their site, so we may not have seen the last of them. A company has also proposed buying the site, and adding legal copies of software and movies, and charging a monthly fee.
Pirate Bay was one of the most groundbreaking sites created. It helped start the whole piracy thing, and the controversy following it. Many people will miss it, whether it becomes a pay for site or gone for good. What are your thoughts on the matter?
Edit: Pirate Bay is back. They just won't give up, now will they?
Going after the ISP?! What a load of crap, TPB will probably just get its bandwidth from somewhere else so it will be back.
I certainly hope they won't be back! But then again, human kind is sick.
Too bad. I liked that site.
Too bad
or even better explained
I wonder if piracy on the high seas means they just make a copy of the ship?
ISOHunt is a good place
You don't think the near certainty of lawsuits and criminal prosecution might just deter other ISPs from selling them bandwidth?
it was too porno sponsored for my liking.....
Good riddance.
As for the ship-type pirates....they are very real and need to be treated 'correctly'.....scuttle the ship with them still aboard.
It's traditionally a capital offence so stop fondling genitals and off the bastards.
Oh god, I wish... Obama's handling of that situation is the one plus mark on that laundry list of marxist negatives. It was a cold day in hell when they got the go ahead to knock those fuckers off.
I have, unfortunately for the respective industries, given them quite a bit of business directly because of piracy. I've never jumped into a television show late for instance, it's flat not going to happen. If I don't watch it from the start, I never will. I've pirated numerous shows that were suggested to me in order to see those first shows, earning the producers a new legitimate viewer.
The offending parties do exist, but they'll lose a lot of business if they finally shut the sources down.
By pirating the TV shows you deny the advertisers their audience...and ultimately up the chain the actors in that show you like/want to be a legitimate viewer of.
It doesn't matter how it is spun....piracy is piracy.
I had to use a crack for the Guild II just to install a patch to a game I actually own. Guess how I found out that the patch worked for the pirated version but not mine, from people who pirated it and thought it was pretty funny that a legal version wasn't getting any support. Fortunately, I still buy my games, but JoWood and their half-ass translated games is not getting my money until their titles hit the bargain bins from now on.
The world is a big place moving it to another country on paper isnt really a problem, and there you can throw all legal emails in the trashcan and never look back, if it comes to that, but sure it might deter it also will give publicity to anyone that might want to get their name out there by giving TPB some bandwidth.
They're already back. They've got hosting elsewhere and are sending the people who shut them down congratulatory T-shirts.
I'm still find it a good deal, to first get the copy and take a look.
If it is good than I'll buy it.
Be fair offer a full product cashback if the software sucks (Arma2 lately) I'd bite me in the ass if I had bought that crapy. Even I looks good. But it's not quality..
Selling good writen programms, with a good support is still the way to go, buying something without support, Is like buying a brand new Car without warenty You would'nt do that, now would you!
in sort: Class A software + Good Support = Profit!
One of these days you wont completely ignore any and all context of someone you irrationally disagree with. I'm guessing that will be some time after the second coming.
And why, pray tell do you consider my comments 'irrational'?
Which is why I support calling them "economic terrorists" or something and congratulating them with a 500 pound smart bomb through the office window. Because any country hosting them would be state sponsors of the aforementioned "economic terrorism".
Yeah, that suggestion is bullshit. But they've effectively forfeited any legal rights they may have started with. I actually would support a few abductions in the night with the miscreants inexplicably appearing in a US federal court, where they can legally be charged. (They could be too, the courts don't care how someone is delivered, as long as the police or court officials didn't do anything illegal.)
And for supreme irony, this song came on while I was typing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz-grdpKVqg
(And yes, that is a legal video on Youtube, check out who posted it)
Haha they are funny
The ultimate trick would be to deregister any ISP that hosted them and ban them from the business.
Eventually the ISPs would see it was a hiding to nothing and no-one would host the site.
Personally, I'm divided on piracy. I like it to download cracked exe files so I don't have to put up with crap DRM (never tried but should, next game with SecuROM I get might get the treatment). I can also get old games that you can't get in stores anymore, though Good Old Games is changing that. Also, it's amusing to pirate games from publishers who use draconian DRM (though they would add more DRM, which makes more people pirate, which makes even more people pirate, even more DRM, even more piracy, vicious cycle continues)
On the downside, it can take a long time to download the thing, and it can be a bit complicated at times. Plus there are assholes who include Trojan Horses sometimes. Piracy also hurts indie developers, which is why I swore never to pirate an indie. I also swore to spend money whenever I can, so I'm no real pirate. I think most people fall into my catagory.
You, in the crusade against piracy, would have me watch fewer shows legally.
If I am not, and never will be a customer, which was the case for several television shows, including Heroes, TSC, Chuck, Fringe, and Warehouse 13, they can only gain by my illegally obtaining a copy of a previously aired show to see if I want to watch the series.
I have not, and never will become a viewer of something I've not seen from the start. I pirated at least one previously aired show from everything I've mentioned with the exception of Warehouse 13. I'll start a torrent of episode 2 in a few minutes assuming I can find it. I caught a re-run if the premier last night and liked it well enough to catch up on Hulu, which has 3 and up currently. I've legally watched every successive episode from those other series. I'm even collecting Chuck on DVD, which is a first, and possibly a last.
It works like this, I ignore the commercials for some lame ass looking television show, and a month later some other dumbass with a low threshold for commercials says "Hey man, are you watching show X? It's actually good!" First I look for a legal means to verify that, then I look for an illegal means if I can work up the motivation to do it.
Short of time travel, your commentary doesn't fit. I can't go back and watch episode 2 of Warehouse 13 when it aired on that unmentionably stupid station who's name I hate thinking about. When I "steal" it, if I can work up the motivation off this reminder(torrents and satellite internet just do not mix...), that is the only way I will end up watching further episodes on the first airing, when they make the most of it.
Arrr, another pirate walks the plank! I say keel-haul the scurvy wretches, arrrr...
If Sci-fi's(I refuse to use that retarded fuck spelling) site will actually work, they supposedly have it... No torrent for me. Which is good, I've already surpassed my tolerance for the internet by using their shitty, flash bloated site.
Ooh, it loads, Now see that? I'd never have bothered to go look for the name of the episode if I weren't intending to hunt down a torrent. Another legal view directly attributable to the existence of all those copyright infringers is taking place as soon as I hit the reply button.
Ah, piracy - I find it interesting that both the modern and old definitions refer to the stereotype of an un-washed, un-liked male of low intelligence - at least that older definition of Pirate got laid once in a while. I also find it interesting that the main argument that exists for software pirates is the "it doesn't fit the exact interpretation of the word theft, so it's totally legal" when they forget that software piracy falls under Interlectual Property Theft, and is very much illegal. Regardless of being able to infinity reproduce copies, your stealing someones copyrighted work - of which both both physical and non-physical work are defined.Pirating TV shows is an interesting thought - taping TV shows doesn't bother anyone, hell the devices that allow you to do so were quite a popular invention and in fact taping Television programs was their entire purpose, and they sold quite legally. However downloading them constitutes distribution - which is illegal. It's not the fact that you obtained a copy, it's how you obtained a copy that is the issue. If your friend lent you a copy of the show that he taped himself, there would be no issue. However, being as you downloaded a copy which was distributed in such a manner that anyone could obtain a copy if they so choose it falls under the 'piracy' label. Keep in mind limiting methods for obtaining TV shows is the primary reason why the DVD market for them exploded as it has. Of course, this allows them to make more money than previous years, where after the original screening, they could only make money if the show was popular enough to warrant re-runs.
Well then that comes under the heading of 'tough shit, lad'. If you didn't get to see it from the beginning then more fool you.
With the advent of DVD players, etc it is now quite simple to PURCHASE the show/s you missed...and ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTE to the coffers of the artists/producers/etc that made whatever show so enticing you want to pirate it.
These poor bastards rely on the commercial success of their 'product' or 'art'....and if it is NOT a legitimate source then it is HURTING them, no matter what 'spin' you put on motive and morality.
I quite enjoy kicking the arses of self-confessed software pirates off of Stardock's sites...as there is a zero tolerance for the act.
It is ONLY the abuser who attempts to legitimize his crime......the 'victim' always sees it for what it is.
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